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"To Cory Burnell, founder of Christian Exodus, that political activity isn't enough. He wants something more radical - a kind of Christian free state. "We believe that Christ's admonition to go and make disciples of all nations does not exclude any facets of life," Burnell said by telephone from his Valley Springs, Calif., home. "We're asking people to move and do something new. Our intent is to put men in office who will do what (ousted Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice) Roy Moore did - defy the federal government." The group's goal is to have 2,500 members in two upstate South Carolina counties by September 2006, and as many as 12,000 by 2008. That, Burnell said, would be enough to elect local candidates and snowball into a statewide force. Soon, enough right-thinking officials would be elected to force a confrontation with the feds. "We are proponents of federal conflict," Burnell said. "People ought to stand up, they ought to flirt with arrest." Burnell, 29, used to be a regional director in Texas for the League of the South, a secessionist organization. Robert Hayes, director of the league in South Carolina, said his group is working with Christian Exodus on the "common goal of self-government.""

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/nation/12234496.htm

7/28/2005 11:14:29 AM

hahaha what was it john stewart said a couple weeks ago?

something about how christians think they're being persecuted...hes like "i think you've had it good for the last ....oh...2500 years....i mean look at us jews"

or something

7/28/2005 11:17:32 AM

Maybe they'll have better luck this time.

7/28/2005 11:21:11 AM

1) Kind of like Afghanistan under the Taliban, but with John Deere hats instead of turbans.

2) I, for one, will not miss South Carolina. My only wish is that they take Texas with them.

7/28/2005 11:26:14 AM

Can they leave sooner? And they better change the Carolina part of their name.

They can annex the rest of the southeast south of us over to TX if they want, I sure as hell wouldn't miss it.

7/28/2005 11:31:27 AM

I hope a bunch of them move from Ohio and Florida...

7/28/2005 11:35:34 AM

I hope that democrats win the next election so that I don't have to hear them bitch anymore.

7/28/2005 11:37:57 AM

Me too. I want to hear the screams and wails of repugnicans again...like when Clinton was prez.

7/28/2005 11:42:14 AM

Is it weird that you bring up Clinton era republicans to defend the actions of democrats, but flip out on anyone who brings up Clinton to defend the actions of republicans?

7/28/2005 11:46:01 AM

Whats this obsession with Religion.

Why do these people keep trying to do things that could only end in bloodshed and have always previously failed?

7/28/2005 11:53:34 AM

While I agree conflict with the Fed is desirable, I don't think christian fundamentalism would be the most defensible course. I would much prefer classical republicanism to be the course taken.

Why not rebel against all those opressive federal regulations?

7/28/2005 12:13:57 PM

I definitely support reducing the size and power of Federal government, but this is extreme.

7/28/2005 12:18:17 PM

No different than people who were talking about leaving the United States or seceding from the Union because they lost a certain election a few months back.

7/28/2005 12:23:05 PM

Indeed, however having liberals and internet emo fags decide to leave the union and move to canada is slightly less threatening to my sense of safety then a bible thumping zealot wanting to setup a theocracy 3 hrs from my house.

7/28/2005 12:26:30 PM

good. let them go this time.

7/28/2005 12:28:34 PM

PRESERVE THE UNION

7/28/2005 12:29:23 PM

^^^ Yeah, and I'd have to drive through it to get to Florida. Fuck that.

I'm so tired of fundamentalism making headlines EVERYWHERE. I feel like we're slipping into another dark age.



[Edited on July 28, 2005 at 12:30 PM. Reason : ed]

7/28/2005 12:29:36 PM

I, too, dream of a day when my country can have an openly Christian president. Or perhaps even 43 consecutively.

7/28/2005 12:34:24 PM

That would be pretty cool if South of the Border was across a legitimate national boundary.

7/28/2005 12:40:15 PM

theyd buy it and change it to "Bethlehem West"

7/28/2005 12:40:59 PM

Yea, Pedroland is the work of the devil. The giant sombrero could be converted to a giant communion cup.

7/28/2005 12:44:11 PM

Seccession is not necessary. The author merely appears to be seeking confrontation with the Federal Government. In my opinion, such confrontation is necessary to preserve the autonomy of these United States. We, as people, should do all we can to restrict the Fed.

I think the California State police should be called whenever the Federal Anti-Drug taskforce trespasses on private property to sieze legal marijuana.

When that fails, juries should use their right of Nullification to prevent the enforcement of such bad laws.

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"In February of 2003, a California jury convicted marijuana activist Ed Rosenthal of growing marijuana, in violation of federal law. What the jury didn't know — and wasn't allowed to hear — was that Rosenthal was not only growing the marijuana for medical patients, he was growing the stuff for the city of Oakland. After the trial, the jury was outraged. "'I'm sorry' doesn't begin to cover it," one told the New York Times. Said the foreman, "It's the most horrible mistake I've ever made in my entire life." But is that necessarily true? Must jurors uphold even unjust laws? Maybe not. In his 1998 book "Jury Nullification: The Evolution of a Doctrine," Clay S. Conrad defines "jury nullification" this way: "Jurors in criminal trials have the right to refuse to convict if they believe that a conviction would be in some way unjust.""

7/28/2005 12:46:06 PM

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"The giant sombrero could be converted to a giant communion cup."

Yeah, those county baptists love their communion.

7/28/2005 12:49:05 PM

7/28/2005 12:53:28 PM

I say give them missippi and alabama, I'd hate to lose cheap south carolina gasoline

7/28/2005 2:12:58 PM

http://existens.org/js/

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"The United States of America's last president, George W. Bush, declared himself Supreme Divine Emperor shortly before the end of his second term. After the Department of Homeland Security quashed a brief civil uprising, the Holy Chrisian Empire of Jesustan was established. Buoyed by its largely uneducated, impoverished and apathetic subjects, this new government maintained fanatic support, especially in the vast rural areas of the country. Today, Jesustan continues to be a strong military and economic powerhouse, despite its high unemployment and inflation."

7/28/2005 3:30:12 PM

^funny and all, but you give Bush too much credit.

someone will take his power away for failing to squash all dissenters.

Senior Premier Pat Robertson, Chairman of the Conservative Christian Family Party

7/28/2005 4:00:37 PM

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"Jesustan continues to be a strong military and economic powerhouse, despite its high unemployment and inflation.""

High unemployment and inflation do not a powerhouse make. Otherwise France would rule us all.

7/28/2005 10:50:26 PM

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"The group's goal is to have 2,500 members in two upstate South Carolina counties by September 2006, and as many as 12,000 by 2008"

For the love of God, please don't let York County be 1 of the 2. I'd have to cross international borders to go to work (better get a work visa).

7/30/2005 12:46:50 AM

Hey, remember what the Mormans used to do to regular people trying to cross their fundamentalist state of Utah.

7/30/2005 1:00:01 AM

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"I hope that democrats win the next election so that I don't have to hear them bitch anymore."

whats great about this statement
is that republicans have won every election for the last 5 years
and they still bitch and moan

and don't act like they don't

7/30/2005 11:27:43 AM

that's because the MSLM is still in full effect although starting to diminish

7/30/2005 11:29:14 AM

I would very much welcoming the transformation of South Carolina in to a Christian state officially, and then have them officially secede. Watching the ensuing collapse, or rise of a tyrannous, corrupt gov. of the newly formed Christian state would be highly entertaining, I think.

7/30/2005 11:37:37 AM

^agreed

guess this ruins my plans of going to USC for grad school...eh, whatever

7/30/2005 2:18:22 PM

GO GAMECOCKS

7/30/2005 3:23:37 PM

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"I would very much welcoming the transformation of South Carolina in to a Christian state officially, and then have them officially secede. Watching the ensuing collapse, or rise of a tyrannous, corrupt gov. of the newly formed Christian state would be highly entertaining, I think. "

Then we can bomb them, which would make South Carolina look much better than it does today.

7/30/2005 11:52:00 PM

Where can I donate money? I want a few million people from OH and FL to migrate.

7/31/2005 12:47:28 AM

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"whats great about this statement is that republicans have won every election for the last 5 years and they still bitch and moan and don't act like they don't"

I don't.

7/31/2005 3:31:14 PM

Much like Europeans invading Russia in winter, when South Carolina decides to cede from the Union, you know this isn't going to end well.

The sad thing is the dillusions of grandeur the people who come up with these schemes hold. I know a lot of Christians who think this guy is a whack job and none who have put their homes on the market to move to South Carolina.

8/1/2005 1:04:45 AM

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"Much like Europeans invading Russia in winter"

To be fair, both Napoleon and Hitler began their invasions in June.

8/1/2005 10:30:21 AM

^on the same day in june, actually, only in different years of course.

8/1/2005 11:59:06 AM

see, if they won a majority and managed to secede SC from the Union, it would screw the other 49% of the people in the state.

what we oughta do is let a few counties secede without even opposing it...and make sure that they're landlocked counties...and then close the border with them, refuse to trade, etc. they'd come crawling back, and nobody would fuck around talking about secession for a couple hundred more years.

8/1/2005 12:04:37 PM