Anyone see this this morning??? Sorry if it's been posted before...



Whole buncha pics over on HPJ in the Multimedia section...

...poor WRX

"this is really sad...a drunk guy hit this one car and they all smashed into one another. happened last night(this morning) around 130."

[Edited on July 28, 2005 at 8:39 PM. Reason : quote]

7/28/2005 8:38:21 PM

haha. that used to happen almost weekly for a while when i lived at the abbey (university house).

7/28/2005 9:12:16 PM

yeah, thats what happens when you have an alcohol problem and you get behind the wheel

7/28/2005 9:15:54 PM

i hope the mexican driving had insurance

7/28/2005 11:47:04 PM

he wont have insurance after this

7/29/2005 1:23:18 AM

What I found funny is that they said the guy driving the truck that hit them just got out and walked "home" or wherever he had to go. Just left the truck there...

now that's drunk.

Mike

7/29/2005 8:03:37 AM

^true

-ZiP!-

7/29/2005 8:08:20 AM

man... he musta been movin'

7/29/2005 8:21:37 AM

hehe somebody's going to jail.

7/29/2005 8:26:01 AM

damn that sucks.

7/29/2005 8:40:16 AM

In the original post, I had siad there were two things that amazed me about this situation;...

1) He had enough speed, even in a big truck, in a parking lot of this size to be able to do this kind of damage.

and ...

2) He was able to make it TO this parking lot being as drunk as he was.

Mike

7/29/2005 9:07:35 AM

^agreed

7/29/2005 10:05:01 AM

man that sucks ass
i hope something like that never happens to my car

7/29/2005 10:08:44 AM

that dude was all like



[Edited on July 29, 2005 at 12:49 PM. Reason : d]

7/29/2005 12:49:25 PM

Unless a witness saw exactly who got out of the driver's seat after the wreck there is a good chance that the driver will get off. It sucks, but the cops have the burden of proof in these cases and just because the truck belongs to a person doesn't mean they were driving.

I mean, the guy is fucked, but probably not that fucked. Let's hope he doesn't have enough sense or money to get a good lawyer.

A guy from my neighborhood flipped an SUV and crashed through a barn while drunk driving. His lawyer got him off because he got thrown to the cargo area during the wreck. They couldn't prove he was in the driver's seat because he wasn't in it when the paramedics got there and nobody witnessed the wreck. A few years later he was drunk driving again, flipped another SUV, and died. Sucks bad for his family, but he had his chance to change and he didn't.

Anyway...Similar situation. Lots of property damage, and that guy got off almost scott free. His insurance paid the bill for the barn. If nobody saw who was driving there is a good chance the same thing could happen here.

[Edited on July 29, 2005 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .]

7/29/2005 1:06:51 PM

Damn that's craziness, Skack. I mean, I get it, but isn't there some statute that says something about "Obvious yadda yadda"- reasonable proof or some bullshit. There has to be for idiots like these...

Mike

7/29/2005 2:46:29 PM

it was two guys coming back from Playmakers at about 2 in the morning. The guy who owned the truck was riding shotgun and the other guy apparently got selected to drive because he didn't want to take a cab. They stuck around for the cops to show up, but there was no ticket since they were on private property at the time of the incident. I didn't get to sleep until about 4AM that night because the officer didn't want me to go back to sleep until he had everything settled.

The WRX is mine, and the insurance company doesn't want to total it because the car is still worth nearly $20 grand due to how low the mileage is on it. That picture doesn't show how the C pillar on the passenger side is crumpled all the way up to the roof and that the frame is twisted. The car got knocked up on the curb about 5 feet. All 4 doors are fucked up and won't open, so I can't even get into the car to get shit out of it. the rear window's also busted out and the trunk is separated, so all the rain we're going to get this weekend is going to pour into that car.

What's really pissing me off right now is that the insurance company is claiming that they only have to provide basic transportation, which in their eyes is a subcompact Kia. Anyone that's ever seen me knows that my shoulders and legs are too big to fit into a Kia. They want me to pay the additional money to upgrade to the piece of shit Lancer I'm driving.

I need to just go get a loan taken out and buy a sport bike for the time being, as I'd been thinking about doing that anyway. If anyone knows of someone selling a good bike to learn on, drop me a PM.

7/29/2005 3:16:17 PM

damn dude, that sucks.

7/29/2005 3:23:19 PM

Dude, honestly, that car's totalled as a motherfucker.

I know the suspensions gotta be fucked because it landed on the curb that way.

Hell, look at the wheel on the Hyundai next to you - they think yours is better off? Maybe slightly, but the impact was worse.

Besides, all 4 doors being fucked, the windows popping, and potential buckles in the body are signs that more than just body panels are bent - that frame's fucked. I'd hate to see the welding and bending they're going to have to do to get that bitch back together.

I hate insurance companies - it would behoove them to replace that bitch/total it. I'd see what you can do about pushing them. Can you get a lawyer in this situation? Something's outta whack...

Mike

7/29/2005 3:37:18 PM

Quote :

"isn't there some statute that says something about "Obvious yadda yadda"- reasonable proof or some bullshit."

I think they will usually just charge the obvious person and see if a lawyer shows up to get them out of it or not. Usually if the person really wasn't driving they will roll over and testify on the person that was. Not many people will take a DUI charge for a friend.

I'm surprised the cops didn't charge the guy with DUI. Even on private property it is supposed to be illegal, but I would think that it would be classified as private property for public use (like a shopping mall) where they have full jurisdiction. Maybe it isn't since it is technically for the tenants and their guests.

Sorry about your car Eleusis. I wouldn't back down an inch until they told me they will total it. Also, take it to some places that aren't "preferred" by your insurance company.

[Edited on July 29, 2005 at 3:54 PM. Reason : s]

7/29/2005 3:52:56 PM

I know it's beyond being totalled, but they won't write off on it. That car has a ring shaped reinforcement frame built into the C pillar for rollover support support and structural rigidity, and you can tell that it's damaged also. It's not like a simple frame to fix.


All of the other 3 cars in the picture were totalled by the adjuster as soon as he showed up, but they're dicking around with mine because of the resale value. I should steal engine parts off of the car while it's here over the weekend. I wish I knew someone that had an old RS, because I'd be all about an engine swap right about now.

If anyone wants a K&N air filter for a WRX, speak up now.

7/29/2005 5:09:26 PM

theyll eventually decide its totalled, or spend more than its worth to fix it...either way theyre fucked and going to pay you a shitload. My boss got ran into in his corvette (which was less than a year old at the time) and they decided it wasn't totalled...by the time they got done fixing it, it costed them almost as much as the car was worth. Whoever did the estimate for that thing did a shitty job. They would have been a hell of a lot better off by just cutting him a check and selling the wrecked car at auction, but they tried to fuck him over and got fucked.

Anyways, bitch and moan to the insurance company, get a lawyer involved if possible, dont let them fuck you over...you pay them for a reason

7/29/2005 5:23:54 PM

it's the other guys insurance company, not mine. I wish it was mine, because with as much coverage as I pay for I don't think there would be any hassle at all.

7/29/2005 5:28:23 PM

O, oh well...you'll get the money sooner or later, but bitch as much as possible

7/29/2005 5:41:19 PM

I've probably called them 15 times already. the person handling the claim is named Anita Ho, which I think is the main reason I call so often. It's fun just to hear her answer the phone.

7/29/2005 7:08:05 PM

hehe

7/29/2005 8:20:30 PM

dont sweat it, they'll total it out eventually. a buddy got rear-ended in his WRX and the damage was no where near as substantial as yours and his got totaled. took a couple of weeks though.

until then, don't worry about it. have fun driving the lancer. put that ebrake to good use!

7/30/2005 9:00:09 AM

OK, I think I'm getting fucked here. They don't want to total out the car because it lists for around $23,000. Instead, they've decided to do about $9,000 worth of body work to nigger rig it back into shape. The body shop guy sounded like he didn't want to replace half the stuff I asked about, such as the damaged wheels and the fucked up rear differential. He also tried to claim that there was no structural damage to the C pillar, even though there most definitely is. He estimates it will take over a month to fix the thing after parts get in.

How do I go about getting depreciation reimbursement for the loss in resale value this car is going to have to do it being wrecked before? I'm never going to be able to sell a WRX with a wreck on the title without taking a substantial loss.

8/3/2005 5:41:49 PM

you need to speak to a lawyer methinks

8/3/2005 5:45:00 PM

I'm doing that tomorrow. I have a friend of the family that's already offered to take care of it free of charge.

8/3/2005 5:47:26 PM

yeah definetly time to lawyer-up...insurance companies really piss me off

just out of curiosity, what company is covering all of this?

8/3/2005 5:50:48 PM

Loss of value is easy, but you have to ask for it after all the other repairs are completed.

Hopefully it won't come to that. Let the lawyer handle it. Get a second opinion on the repairs in the meantime.

8/3/2005 5:56:38 PM

Horace Mann Insurance Co, someone I've never heard of.

8/3/2005 6:01:31 PM

he sounds like some hick farmer

maybe ouijamn knows him

8/3/2005 6:15:39 PM

they cater to public school teachers and military people according to their website.

8/3/2005 7:30:17 PM

damn, i would have taken a little bit of payment out of the guys ass then and there.

Quote :

"Even on private property it is supposed to be illegal"

how do you figure that? could be, but i've never heard such. you mean if i want to ride up and down my driveway drunk it's technically illegal?

8/4/2005 1:09:26 PM

I had been told that drunk driving on private property was illegal in NC, but that appears to be incorrect. Apparently, most states did not specify "on a highway, street, or public vehicular area" in the general statute and therefore it is a crime no matter where the offense occurs. When I looked up the law for NC it turned out that was incorrect. A cop told me that, but I guess he was mistaken.

[Edited on August 4, 2005 at 3:00 PM. Reason : s]

8/4/2005 2:59:29 PM

good... not that i endorse drunk driving at all, but if you're on your own property you should be allowed do drunk drive if you please (and do most any other thing unless you're causing a real nuisance to neighbors).

8/4/2005 3:03:46 PM

If you want to drive drunk in your back yard or on your farm, that's private property.

A shopping mall parking deck or apartment parking lot is a public vehicular area, and you can be busted for driving drunk.

8/5/2005 9:40:51 PM