HARDCOVER ADVICE, #1 NT TIMES best seller


ok, this is just a little warning to everyone. this guy, Kevin Trudeau, preys on the hopes of extremely sick individual and promises cures that dont exist. do not buy anything associated with him. there is no conspiracy. there is no machine that cures cancer. someone please start a paypal account to fund the hitman. that is all.




http://www.nytimes.com/pages/books/bestseller/

[Edited on August 17, 2005 at 11:18 PM. Reason : -]

8/17/2005 11:18:19 PM

hey i watch the daily show too

8/17/2005 11:19:52 PM

some people dont

ive heard this guy on cable, i had no idea so many people were buying his shit till i found out today its a bestseller

8/17/2005 11:21:00 PM

All you have to do is set it and forget it!

8/17/2005 11:24:38 PM

and send me $70.00 for this coral calcium which cures all cancer

(of course the mercury content may kill you...so....theres that)

8/17/2005 11:25:52 PM

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"All you have to do is set it and forget it! "

aha

8/17/2005 11:50:21 PM

is he related to Gary Trudeau

8/17/2005 11:58:34 PM

I thought this was another hempstar thread.

8/18/2005 1:07:41 AM

how do you know that there is no secret cure.

let me remind you that the govt sterilized tens of thousands during the 60's and 70's in order to prevent undesirables from reproducing. the govt IS behind the fucked up shit i am sure. just dont be so sure of yourself.

8/18/2005 1:59:32 AM

how do you know that there is no secret cure.

let me remind you that the govt sterilized tens of thousands during the 60's and 70's in order to prevent undesirables from reproducing. You never know what the govt can be behind

8/18/2005 2:00:35 AM

When I saw his infomercial the first time, my first thought was, "Isn't this the same guy that was hawking 'Mega Memory' a few years ago?" Turns out I was right:

http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/FTCActions/trudeau.html

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"how do you know that there is no secret cure. let me remind you that the govt sterilized tens of thousands during the 60's and 70's in order to prevent undesirables from reproducing. the govt IS behind the fucked up shit i am sure. just dont be so sure of yourself."

As a medical student, I can tell you that sterilization's a pretty simple procedure. Curing cancer isn't.

This kind of stuff is a slap in the face to the people who are actually doing research into these diseases and really searching for the truth.

[Edited on August 18, 2005 at 2:06 AM. Reason : /]

8/18/2005 2:05:48 AM

:Camera comes in on a team of doctors and nurses performing an operation:
doctor 1: we're loosing him!
doctor 2: the cancer has taken over his whole left lung!
:patient props himself up on his elbows and looks into the camera for a close-up:
patient: there's got to be a better way!

8/18/2005 2:20:09 AM

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"how do you know that there is no secret cure. "

i know becuase he has been thoroughly debunked by the experts.

for example, he quotes findings from nobel prize nominees....but the quotes would be from papers 80 years old. you cant cover up the research around medicine bc of all the independant investigation that goes on.



anyway just STFU


also---in the age of the internet, which you cannot control, if anything really DID cure all diseases, this shit was spread like wildfire




[Edited on August 18, 2005 at 9:05 AM. Reason : -]

8/18/2005 9:04:04 AM

this guys infomercials are all over early morning cable...

he's irritating... and quite frankly unless your name is Ron Popiel nobody should EVER believe you about a product sold through an infomercial...

that and he just strikes me as a fucktard

8/18/2005 9:19:12 AM

so are they lying when they say i can set it and forget it?

8/18/2005 9:21:49 AM

modern day snake oil salesman

8/18/2005 9:25:37 AM

does anyone else think this josh guy is a know-it-all douche?

8/18/2005 9:46:35 AM

All you have to do is crawl in a dead zebra and light your eyes on fire.

8/18/2005 9:52:54 AM

I can't endorse or not endorse Trudeau's book because I haven't read it, but his main point is correct...the medical and pharmaceutical industries are not interested in curing people of diseases. They are interested in profits and making money. They would rather have people taking drugs for the rest of their lives than have people cured. There are natural cures to cancer and many other diseases, but these have been suppressed by the medical community and media. If the natural cures for cancer and other illnesses were widely known, the medical and pharmaceutical industries would lose billions in revenue.

The recent explosion of diseases over the last half century is attributable to toxins in the environment, dietary deficiences, and other environmental factors (including electromagnetic radiation). In many cases, poisons are purposefully placed in foods. One classic example is the drug "aspartame", also known as Nutrasweet. This drug is a known toxin that causes brain tumors. Aspartame is the ingredient in "diet" drinks, but it actually makes you hungrier and causes people to gain weight.

I highly recommend reading this article:

The Cancer Business
http://www.truthcampaign.ukf.net/articles/health/cancerbusiness.html


[Edited on August 18, 2005 at 12:06 PM. Reason : 2]

8/18/2005 12:01:55 PM

and here i thought you were going to explain the don rumsfeld connection to nutra sweet

8/18/2005 12:29:01 PM

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"does anyone else think this josh guy is a know-it-all douche?"

yes clearly someone who is saying that there is no machine that cures cancer must be a know-it-all. YOUD HAVE TO BE!

8/18/2005 12:31:50 PM

aha

8/18/2005 12:34:25 PM

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"There are natural cures to cancer and many other diseases, but these have been suppressed by the medical community and media"

you cant supress peer reviewed journal articles. there are hundreds of studies about vitamins.

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"The recent explosion of diseases over the last half century"

yes our life expenctancy has really plummetted. idiot. we're discovering diseases that probably were around forever.

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"toxins "

nobody has ever seen a 'toxin'

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"In many cases, poisons are purposefully placed in foods. One classic example is the drug "aspartame", also known as Nutrasweet."

last i checked, it was put in their bc its sweet and has virtualy no caloric value. its true that there is some debate over how safe it is. nobody is supressing that.

8/18/2005 12:35:58 PM

You can't talk about a group of hundreds of thousands of people in multiple organizations and fields and say they all have a certain agenda.

There's a doctor somewhere that works under shit conditions, selflessly laboring to help her fellow man. And there's a suit-wearing cigar puffer somewhere out there that is trying to think up a way to beat old women up and steal their money without getting in trouble.

But most people fall somewhere in between the two.

8/18/2005 12:38:28 PM

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"Josh8315: "yes clearly someone who is saying that there is no machine that cures cancer must be a know-it-all. YOUD HAVE TO BE!"

OMG! You can shoot down straw man arguments! Congrats!

Trudeau is NOT saying there is a "machine" that cures cancer. Even from watching the infomercials, one can see that he is saying there are NATURAL cures to cancer (ie, dietary supplements, herbs, etc.)

[Edited on August 18, 2005 at 12:41 PM. Reason : 1]

8/18/2005 12:39:51 PM

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"Trudeau is NOT saying there is a "machine" that cures cancer."

ive heard the words come right out of his mouth, he said a machine can dial a certain frequency and eradicate all the cancer in your body. so, he IS saying that.

plenty of herbs/supplements are studied, vitamin C and zinc have been intensively studied, for example

8/18/2005 12:42:42 PM

If Dick Cheny came up to be and told me that the terrorists are hiding oil on the moon

and then I saw an infomercial that said water was made of hydrogen and oxygen

and then I was told that one was lying and one was telling the truth

I'd believe Dick Cheny.

8/18/2005 12:43:00 PM

Trudeau’s recommendations and ‘opinions’ are:


* Breast milk has been poisoned by exhaust fumes from jets (p. 80)
* People should not use antiperspirant or deodorant (page 135)
* “All tap water is poisonous” (page 144)
* Microwave cooking poisons food --and causes cancer (page 145)
* Baby food is “poisonous;” (page 145); “Vaccines are some of the most toxic things you can put into your body” (page 131. Despite that statement, Trudeau’s newsletter praises Jonas Salk and his vaccine for curing polio);
* Avoid hot tubs, saunas and swimming pools (page 155);
* Wear white (“The closer you get to white, the more positive energy you bring into your energetic field.” Page 167)
* Driving in traffic causes stress and stress causes cancer;
* Sunscreens cause cancer (page 152);
* Eat only organic food and “do not eat any food produced or sold by a publicly traded (page 142); and,
* Don’t take prescription or nonprescription drugs (This recommendation is cited throughout the book. Trudeau’s website, however, recommends that drugs be used to cure TB and Parkinson’s. In one commercial, Trudeau concedes that drugs and surgery are necessary when an illness is too advanced.)


http://www.infomercialwatch.org/reports/nycpb.shtml+cancer+machine+trudeau&hl=en

8/18/2005 12:45:35 PM

MOTHERFUCKING MOONINITES!




EVERYONE TO THE MOON! WE NEED THAT OIL!

8/18/2005 12:45:50 PM

he said coral calcium would cure all cancer. everyone purchased coral calcium. everyone still gets cancer.

8/18/2005 12:48:27 PM

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""Trudeau is NOT saying there is a "machine" that cures cancer." ive heard the words come right out of his mouth, he said a machine can dial a certain frequency and eradicate all the cancer in your body. so, he IS saying that. "

yep

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" * Avoid hot tubs, saunas and swimming pools (page 155);"

this is actually good advice, take it from your friendly certified pool operator
if you only knew...

8/18/2005 12:48:47 PM

toxins???

well if htat's the case i have a set of these lovely Cherokee Hair Tampons that you might be interested in...

8/18/2005 3:07:35 PM

* Breast milk has been poisoned by exhaust fumes from jets (p. 80)
I don't know about jets, but most women have extremely high mercury levels now from seafood and such, and this can lead to developmental problems in infants.

* People should not use antiperspirant or deodorant (page 135)
Eh, probably true, but I doubt it will hurt you much

* “All tap water is poisonous” (page 144)
definitely true, but I still drink it

* Microwave cooking poisons food --and causes cancer (page 145)
not the least bit doubtful

* Baby food is “poisonous;” (page 145);
don't know

“Vaccines are some of the most toxic things you can put into your body” (page 131. Despite that statement, Trudeau’s newsletter praises Jonas Salk and his vaccine for curing polio);
yeah probably not true

* Avoid hot tubs, saunas and swimming pools (page 155);
i believe it

* Wear white (“The closer you get to white, the more positive energy you bring into your energetic field.” Page 167)
uh. yeah

* Driving in traffic causes stress and stress causes cancer;
it does cause stress, that's for sure

* Sunscreens cause cancer (page 152);
i'm willing to bet this is based on some study wehre people who use alot of sunscreen also get alot of cancer - but this is likely because they're in the sun alot.

* Eat only organic food and “do not eat any food produced or sold by a publicly traded (page 142); and,
organic or locally grown food is the best for you, the environment, and the local economy

* Don’t take prescription or nonprescription drugs (This recommendation is cited throughout the book. Trudeau’s website, however, recommends that drugs be used to cure TB and Parkinson’s. In one commercial, Trudeau concedes that drugs and surgery are necessary when an illness is too advanced.)
uh huh

8/18/2005 3:25:17 PM

its like he compiled a list of all the email chainletter hoaxes that have been perpetrated since the beginning.

8/18/2005 3:28:25 PM

wow dirtygreek is a pretty brainwashed hippy

8/18/2005 3:31:54 PM

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"* “All tap water is poisonous” (page 144) definitely true, but I still drink it"

[no]

8/18/2005 3:35:28 PM

and the only one he says is probablynot true actually has some merit

8/18/2005 3:36:15 PM

If you read the link I posted earlier:

http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/FTCActions/trudeau.html

you'd see that Trudeau has a long history of making wild claims that have no proof.

8/18/2005 3:46:37 PM

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" “Vaccines are some of the most toxic things you can put into your body”"

vaccines have saved billions of lives

though, about a decade ago tymerisol was used as an additive. its mercury content caused a huge spike in autism rates. there is a lot of legitimate evidence.

[Edited on August 18, 2005 at 3:51 PM. Reason : -]

8/18/2005 3:49:22 PM

i personally dislike the fact that our tap water is flourinated

i want water, not a forced health regime

8/18/2005 4:06:52 PM

Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.

8/18/2005 4:23:17 PM

maybe

if there was ever an X-FILE type conspiracy that could be true

that would be it

8/18/2005 4:28:17 PM

Jon, Josh, and the rest of you losers:

This guy, Kevin Trudeau, may be a total nut, but more than half of what he claims is 100% true.

DirtyGreek and Salisburyboy are right--just because some of the claims are "unproven" or simply wrong doesn't mean that most of what Trudeau is saying is incorrect.

The reason you call people "conspiracy nuts" is because they don't get their facts from "approved official" sources. Why do you think the entire medical industry is so closely entwined with government and law?

Don't take my word for it.... just wait and see what happens over the next 50 years. Internet-powered open source information anarchy will soon overturn the fascist g0vt food/herb/drug/copyright/patent conspiracy. Then I will laugh at your gravestone, as you died from toxins years earlier.

8/18/2005 4:55:03 PM

ahahahahhahha
its just so perfect

8/18/2005 5:07:44 PM

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"The reason you call people "conspiracy nuts" is because they don't get their facts from "approved official" sources. Why do you think the entire medical industry is so closely entwined with government and law?"

The government has zero control over the research I'm doing at WFUSOM right now, which will be published in a scientific journal. It also has zero control over the research other people I know are doing in the hospital. The only ways the government is involved in the least are in patient/participant privacy restrictions and the IRBs.

And incidentally, one of my friends is doing a project in cancer research which goes completely against the current trends of thought in the medical community, yet the investigator had no problems getting said research approved and obtaining the grant funding. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY.

8/18/2005 5:17:15 PM

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"more than half of what he claims is 100% true"

"It works sixty percent of the time, every time."
"That...doesn't make sense."

8/18/2005 5:18:27 PM

Study suggests link between aspartame and brain cancer
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9611/18/aspartame/

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"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Several consumer groups renewed their criticism of aspartame Monday, citing a new study suggesting a possible link between the artificial sweetener and brain tumors. Aspartame is a low-calorie synthetic sweetener made up of two amino acids and methanol. It is sold under the brand names NutraSweet and Equal and is added to many food products as a sugar substitute."

Fluoride Linked to Bone Cancer, Again
http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_23495.shtml

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"Newly available research, out of Harvard University, links fluoride in tap water, at levels most Americans drink, to osteosarcoma, a rare form of bone cancer (1). The Environmental Working Group (EWG), a highly-regarded Washington DC-based organization, urges that fluoride in tap water be declared a known or probable cancer cause (2), based on this and previous animal and human studies."

[Edited on August 18, 2005 at 5:25 PM. Reason : 2]

8/18/2005 5:21:26 PM

you got a link for microwave cancer?

^^haha

[Edited on August 18, 2005 at 5:37 PM. Reason : .]

8/18/2005 5:35:13 PM

Aspartame Conclusively proven a carcinogen by new study in Italy
http://i-newswire.com/pr36817.html

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"(I-Newswire) - The Cancer Research Center of the European Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences in Bologna, Italy reported this week that a long-term study to evaluate the potential carcinogenic effects of aspartame demonstrates the chemical sweetener "induces an increase in lymphomas and leukemias in female rats." The research will be presented at a September international scientific conference, "Framing the Future in the Light of the Past: Living in a Chemical World." Neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock M.D. commented: "The new study released in the European Journal of oncology by Morando Soffritti and co-workers should terrify mothers and all those consuming aspartame sweetened products. This was a carefully done study which clearly demonstrated a statistically significant increase in several types of lymphomas and leukemias in rats. Both of these malignancies have increased significantly in this country since the widespread use of aspartame."

MSG (Mono Sodium Glutamate) is another dangerous food additive:

MSG - Slowly Poisoning America
http://www.rense.com/general52/msg.htm

MSG has been found to be more toxic than all other food toxins, poisons and allergens
http://www.curezone.com/foods/msg.asp

8/18/2005 5:39:22 PM

no one is arguing about aspartame or msg

just wanted to make you clear

please continue to post links no one cares about

8/18/2005 5:46:40 PM