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jprince11
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after having revisited this game today after a couple of years

all I can say is this game completely owns and i mean blows away timesplitters

helluva alot better weapons, crisper gameplay, and the AI isn't even close

timesplitters can give me all the new features it wants but it won't make me want to play it over perfect dark

the only thing it does have over it is the shitty n64 controls and the map creators

8/23/2005 6:48:34 PM

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i really wish rare would re-release that game with a better framerate.. revolution maybe?

8/23/2005 6:53:10 PM

SuperDude
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That farsight gun was the heat. Go shootin people thru walls

8/23/2005 6:57:19 PM

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agreed. this game was far ahead of its time. it needed more GPU power.

8/23/2005 7:03:55 PM

Armabond1
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The alien was named Elvis.

Instant winner.

8/23/2005 7:04:28 PM

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It sucked that you needed the N64's expansion ram slot just in order to really play it...and it was still slow.

Nintendo just needs to come out with a "Halo killer" shoot-me-up.

If they would just make an updated version of Goldeneye, I'd be in heaven.

8/23/2005 7:24:35 PM

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i really wish fucking microsoft had released the sequel for xbox instead of me having to buy that $400 monstrosity just to play the damn thing

8/23/2005 7:26:51 PM

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shit all nintendo has do do is re-release an updated golden eye and perfect dark and you'd have 2 much better than Halo games...

8/23/2005 7:28:04 PM

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I remember playing as one of those elite forces guards and my friends would be up late for hours playing some license to kill pistols. One shot deaths were intense.

8/23/2005 7:36:13 PM

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I've been playing a lot of Perfect Dark lately. Recently, I finally managed to do the impossible and I beat the WAR! level on perfect agent difficulty.

8/23/2005 7:40:45 PM

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^^^

yup. keep the same engine, just improve the graphics. make it online.


$texas

8/23/2005 7:43:05 PM

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Well the Revolution is gonna have online play for older games, so you will be able to play Perfect Dark and Goldeneye online, I just don't know if they will be re-releasing them with better controls/graphics. But yeah, these games had REALLY good gameplay.

8/23/2005 8:50:23 PM

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we used to play perfect dark into the wee hours of the morning all the time. big dark sim multiplayer battles

i hope that Revolution has Goldeneye & Perfect Dark. I would spend the time to go back and unlock all the Goldeneye cheats again. The day I unlocked Invicibility was one of the happiest of my sad life.

8/23/2005 10:05:41 PM

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i still own that game. i sold off the n64, but still have perfect dark and the expansion pack.

8/23/2005 10:41:32 PM

umbrellaman
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"The day I unlocked Invicibility was one of the happiest of my sad life."


I know, right? If you could get the invincibility cheat, you had absolute bragging rights. Nobody had shit on you.

8/23/2005 10:43:53 PM

Wraith
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Oh yeah that was the level where you had to defend Natalia while she was typing and guards would come at you from all directions. And do get invincibility I think you had to do it with 00 Agent in like 10 mins.

8/23/2005 11:01:41 PM

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What was the cheat that was unlocked if you could beat the facility on 007 (hard mode) in under 2 minutes?

It took some skill, but a lot of luck in between (especially to find the scientist)

8/23/2005 11:03:32 PM

StingrayRush
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oh yeah, i did that facility thing. granted i had to read a walkthrough to finally get it (which i guess negates the hard part), but i still felt good seeing 1:45 there

8/23/2005 11:33:29 PM

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"Oh yeah that was the level where you had to defend Natalia while she was typing and guards would come at you from all directions. And do get invincibility I think you had to do it with 00 Agent in like 10 mins."


No no no, you're thinking the infinite ammo cheat. You do have to get it in that level in under 10 minutes or so, but you have to do it on secret agent, not 00 agent.

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"What was the cheat that was unlocked if you could beat the facility on 007 (hard mode) in under 2 minutes?"


THAT'S the invincibility cheat. And I knew what you meant since you said hard mode, but techically 007 mode is the level editor (you can't edit maps or anything, you just get to change some parameters such as enemy health, accuracy, damage, and reaction time).

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"It took some skill, but a lot of luck in between (especially to find the scientist)"


No kidding. It's without a doubt the hardest cheat to get. It wouldn't be nearly so hard if the scientist you had to find didn't appear in a different spot every time. But I was so excited when I got the cheat I called up my friend to brag, forgetting that it was in the late hours of the night. Needless to say, neither he nor his parents were happy about being woken up.

I actually started a new file recently and managed to get it again. I saved it for last, though.

8/24/2005 12:37:55 AM

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I too have picked up playing perfect dark again. Although I haven't gotten to the war mission, I have beat all missions from agent and special agent. Currently i'm up to perfect agent Deep Sea Nullify threat. The one where your under the pacific ocean in some acient alien spaceship. The shit is hard when you got those damn jumping alien jackrabbits with teeth coming at you. Plus the guards that use invisible cloaks are no picnic either. This game was definetly ahead of its time. I still wanna get the nightvision goggle cheat so i can play the game in complete darkness and run through levels with impunity. Damn i'm a geek, but that shit is fun. Have you tried 4 player multi with 6 simulants, wipes the floor with timesplitters.

8/24/2005 1:51:17 AM

GKMatt
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"The day I unlocked Invicibility was one of the happiest of my sad life."


i know right, i remember that i punched a huge dent into my mini-fridge in my dorm room when i missed it by one second

[Edited on August 24, 2005 at 7:49 AM. Reason : i got invincibility short after that]

8/24/2005 7:48:46 AM

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i remember for the depot i kept getting one second over and then i killed it by like 10 seconds

8/24/2005 8:22:32 AM

Wraith
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Whenever the Revolution comes out, we need to get a big multiplayer game of Goldeneye/Perfect Dark going.

8/24/2005 8:41:41 AM

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"i remember that i punched a huge dent into my mini-fridge in my dorm room when i missed it by one second"

after I did that at least 5 times, I gave up on that one

8/24/2005 10:35:34 AM

jprince11
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"agreed. this game was far ahead of its time. it needed more GPU power."


yea just noticed that

I thought my joystick was fucked up until I realized the game was actually moving that slow

o well

8/24/2005 4:06:13 PM

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"The day I unlocked Invicibility was one of the happiest of my sad life."


some of those unlocks are the hardest shit -- very fun

8/24/2005 7:19:30 PM

StingrayRush
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"Whenever the Revolution comes out, we need to get a big multiplayer game of Goldeneye/Perfect Dark going"


how's that gonna happen? microsoft owns the rights to perfect dark now

8/24/2005 10:18:57 PM

Shivan Bird
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Perfect Dark was awesome. Too bad it came out so late in the 64's reign.

8/24/2005 10:42:42 PM

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^^but that game is owned by nintendo. they can re-release it if they want.

8/24/2005 11:01:07 PM

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I know Nintendo said it will re-release older games, but, from what I've read they may only re-release games made by Nintendo. Like Shivan Bird said, Perfect Dark as well as Golden Eye are both by Rare which is now owned by Microsoft so I dunno how Nintendo is gonna re-release these games. It would be awesome though.

8/24/2005 11:11:28 PM

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Microsoft would be dumb not to let Nintendo re-release Goldeneye & Perfect Dark for Rev (of course they would get some $ for owning it).

they would get the $ from direct Perfect Dark sales, and then people would want to pick up an Xbox360 to get Perfect Dark Zero cuz the original is so good.

8/24/2005 11:19:21 PM

umbrellaman
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Well, I started a new file on Perfect Dark last night. As of a couple of hours ago, I beat all the levels (minus the bonus levels, though) AND got all the cheats AND completed all the firing range challenges. Pathetic? Probably, but I suppose it's a good accomplishment.

8/24/2005 11:26:48 PM

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Rereleasing Perfect Dark or Goldeneye could be tricky. Rare clearly has the rights to the PD franchise, so Nintendo can't just start selling the game on the Revolution without getting over some legal hurdles. Similarly, EA has a stranglehold on the rights to the Bond franchise, so rereleasing Goldeneye could also be a problem, especially since EA recently tried (unsuccessfully) to capitalize on the name recognition.

8/24/2005 11:38:53 PM

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^ well, its not "on" the revolution. its just...the same software, now on a disc. the legalities could be complex i agree. i hope they figure it out.

8/24/2005 11:44:29 PM

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perfect dark was the shit, i have to agree.

8/25/2005 12:04:57 AM

jprince11
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why the hell did nintendo fucking sell rare?

they absolutely carried them and I'd say made better games then Nintendo itself

8/25/2005 1:43:00 AM

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^becuase they suck now. they spent 2 years making that starfox zelda clone. all the good people left rare.

8/25/2005 1:45:24 AM

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^^ i don't think nintendo every owned rare to begin with... i believe they were an independent developer

8/25/2005 11:45:09 AM

Mr. Joshua
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Laptop/Sentry gun pwns.

8/25/2005 12:42:21 PM

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^ Amen.

Badass game right there...

[Edited on August 25, 2005 at 1:20 PM. Reason : ...]

8/25/2005 1:14:09 PM

jprince11
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"^^ i don't think nintendo every owned rare to begin with... i believe they were an independent developer

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they were a 2nd party developer

meaning they functioned independently but answered to Nintendo

8/25/2005 1:35:22 PM

ShinAntonio
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At one point, Nintendo owned 49% of Rare, which is why they raked in 350 million dollars selling their stock in Rare to MS.

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"they absolutely carried them and I'd say made better games then Nintendo itself"


Except for Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, Rare's games are pretty derivative. The company singlehandedly ran the collect-a-thon thing into the ground. And their character designs suck ass. Banjo, Kazooie, Joanna, and all those friggin Kongs they created for DK64 don't have anything close to the loyal following Nintendo's characters do. Conker and the kids from Jet Force Gemini had to be sent back to the drawing board and are still pretty lackluster IMO. Rare's best trait was an ability to push a system to its limits. Conker and JFG both look better than all of Nintendo's games and they didn't even need the expansion pack.

8/25/2005 2:26:15 PM

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In conker's fur day I just remember fighting that huge shit moster that sang opera. Quite outstanding graphics for its time, especially for a cartridge. Conker's multiplayer was bad ass if you got into it. My favorite was the katanna.

8/25/2005 2:33:52 PM

ussjbroli
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^ yeah unfortunately conker reloaded has the worst and hardest to control multiplayer i have every fucking seen. ever tried to pilot a vehicle on that shit? they should give you a prize if you can even get the damn thing going let along manage to shoot anything

8/25/2005 4:04:09 PM

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"In conker's fur day I just remember fighting that huge shit moster that sang opera."


I AM THE GREAT MIGHTY POO AND I'M GOING TO THROW MY SHIT AT YOU!!!

8/25/2005 5:57:05 PM

Josh8315
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A HUGE SUPPLY OF TISH
COME FROM MY CHOCOLATE STARVIST

HOW ABOUT SOME SCAT YOUR LITTLE TWAT?

[Edited on August 26, 2005 at 9:30 PM. Reason : -]

8/26/2005 9:29:50 PM

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"Rare's best trait was an ability to push a system to its limits."


Granted, they took forever to create any game and anything less would be unexceptable. Then again, that's why Nintendo dumped them.

8/26/2005 11:40:33 PM

jprince11
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WOW I AM A FUCKING GOD

just beat challenge 20 and I have to say that was one of the hardest trials of my life

something I never did years ago

9/1/2005 1:15:25 AM

jprince11
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and 22 and 23

working my way up

9/1/2005 1:39:42 AM

jprince11
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man perfect example of how incredible the AI was in this game

playing a team of hard or perfect sims on hold the briefcase

I've got the briefcase and I'm holed up in a corner hallway and I cap each of them one by one as they open this cargo door

next time they come together and still cap them

third time they both come but with about a five second gap between them so just as I'm focused on the first killing it I ca'nt divert my attention and reload in time to get the other

show me another game where the computer learns like that

9/1/2005 1:55:05 AM

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