huh.

http://talk.google.com
http://www.google.com/talk/

8/23/2005 11:42:12 PM

I'm on

8/23/2005 11:46:41 PM

Why?

Is Google scanning the conversations to make their searches better or something?

Also, if you screenname is also your email, doesn't that open you up to a LOT of spam, like AOL users?

8/23/2005 11:50:17 PM

yep.. see google thread

8/23/2005 11:51:30 PM

Quote :

"Also, if you screenname is also your email, doesn't that open you up to a LOT of spam, like AOL users?"

No, see, because a google employee hasnt sold a list of 12 million emails to spammers.

8/23/2005 11:52:11 PM

Oh man, that's sexy, it integrates right in as a plugin to the google desktop also.

8/23/2005 11:55:28 PM

^^ No, I mean if you give your screenname out, or post it on websites, etc., spam bots automatically know your email address. People who hate you can easily mail-bomb you, or attempt to hack your email account. It just seems less "safe" than having a screename isolated from an email.

8/23/2005 11:57:21 PM

^^ there's a plugin to integrate talk and desktop search?

8/24/2005 12:04:44 AM

Talk, is the plugin, it's both a plugin, and a stand-alone app.

8/24/2005 12:07:18 AM

Quote :

"It just seems less "safe" than having a screename isolated from an email."

Maybe, but how many of you use the same AIM name as you do, @hotmail, @gmail, or @yahoo?

[Edited on August 24, 2005 at 12:09 AM. Reason : gmail]

8/24/2005 12:08:33 AM

Floodgates: Open

8/24/2005 12:29:55 AM

Damn

it looks so shitty

Yahoo! Messenger for life.

8/24/2005 12:34:54 AM

google will soon become self aware and begin the systematic elimination of all human life as we know it

8/24/2005 1:47:43 AM

Quote :

""There was a war. A few years from now. Nuclear war. The whole thing. All this … everything ... is gone. Just gone. There were survivors. Here. There. Nobody knew who started it. It was the machines… Defense network computer. New. Powerful. Hooked into everything. Trusted to run it all. They say IT got smart...a new order of intelligence. Then IT saw all people as a threat, not just the ones on the other side. Decided our fate in a microsecond... extermination""

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=343240&page=1#7371549

8/24/2005 3:02:29 AM

Quote :

"The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms."

8/24/2005 8:48:49 AM

Quote :

"it looks so shitty"

true.

but it can be used with a lot of other apps that already have familiar GUIs so it's probably going to grow - "it can't hurt to just let it be logged on in the background in case someone wants to IM me on that name" kinda mindset

8/24/2005 9:11:07 AM

The latest version of Yahoo! Messenger is light years ahead.

8/24/2005 10:37:50 AM

it doesn't look shitty.

its extremely simple.

I like the interface.

8/24/2005 10:40:29 AM

8/24/2005 10:42:05 AM

^^concur

feels very slim, kinda like winamp to me

8/24/2005 11:49:18 AM

http://earth.google.com/

8/24/2005 2:22:21 PM

^yeah that was covered already
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=329552

on a related note, i can't get google talk to connect at work here... must be blocked somehow

[Edited on August 24, 2005 at 2:29 PM. Reason : ]

8/24/2005 2:29:17 PM

running, interface is clean & simple (as expected from google) which i like, not too many options (beta, what do you expect), i'll have to test out the Call feature sometime to see the quality.

i wouldn't expect this to draw people away from AIM unless Google does some very very cool stuff with it.

8/24/2005 3:40:57 PM

i've used the talk feature from a fast network in chicago -> rtp fast network and a house w/ cable in garner - both conversations were very clear

on the internal network here it's absolutely perfect

8/24/2005 3:43:12 PM

The blogosphere is rumbling with Google Talk's forthcoming takeover of the IM space.

WTF

Voice isn't even new. Yahoo! messenger has had voice since 2000.

Suddenly, Skype is going out of business. I just don't get it.

Google sure has a lot of search users...but do you think they really have that much user base for the IM application, even if it's open?

Yahoo!'s search engine handles like 40% of all searches on the Internet, and their messenger client is the best thing ever.

seriously...I talk to my parents in India using Yahoo! Messenger, and the voice quality beats a cellphone.

8/24/2005 3:46:01 PM

google will take over yahoo in the IM market like it did in the search market - the talk feature has been in AIM/yahoo and 100s of third party apps for a long time - they were only missing one thing - the golden google name

8/24/2005 3:48:03 PM

its nice and all, but i dont see it replacing anything.

everyone i talk to is on aim.

All i need out of aim is IM.

I dont need voice, i dont need video, i dont need any other stuff.

And right now theres no reason for me to switch to any other client and there's a huge reason for me (and most of the internet) to stay where they are. Everyone else would have to switch clients.

I'd rather see them use SIP for chat/voip instead anyway.

8/24/2005 3:51:36 PM

Yahoo! Messenger uses the SIP protocol

8/24/2005 3:53:00 PM

so does MSN messager

and so does MS portrait.

hell, even fucking lotus sametime can do SIP.

im guessing Google choose to use an open standard that their competitors weren't using.

8/24/2005 3:55:51 PM

Quote :

"What protocols are used for voice calls? Google Talk supports a custom XMPP-based signaling protocol and peer-to-peer communication mechanism. We will fully document this protocol. In the near future, we plan to support SIP signaling. "

[Edited on August 24, 2005 at 3:58 PM. Reason : the program is in beta - wait till it's rlsed 1.0]

8/24/2005 3:57:45 PM

heh,

nm then

thats cool

8/24/2005 3:58:16 PM

http://www.dialpad.com

8/24/2005 4:00:17 PM

dialpad used to be free back in 98-99 when i used it - it was decent then

8/24/2005 4:03:52 PM

Actually, MSN Messenger doesn't support SIP. Only Windows Messenger does, and the windows messenger software is retarded.

8/24/2005 4:05:29 PM

its the same as any other IM program.

8/24/2005 4:45:52 PM

its nice, i just prefer to integrate it into Trillian

8/24/2005 4:59:50 PM

^ i have a feeling that's what most people will do if anything. integrate into their existing IM client 'in case'

8/24/2005 5:03:07 PM

MSN Clone ....

8/24/2005 5:22:38 PM

Quote :

"everyone i talk to is on aim. All i need out of aim is IM."

Precisely.

8/24/2005 5:33:54 PM

Use http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ then you can connect to AIM, ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, Groupwise, IRC, Jabber (Google Talk), MSN, Napster, SILC, and Yahoo. I use it because most everyone uses AIM but as people move to Jabber (Google Talk), I can just use the same client and not worry about anything!

8/25/2005 3:34:47 PM

so how does one integrate this into Google Desktop Search?

8/25/2005 6:00:42 PM

google will soon take over...

8/25/2005 6:12:27 PM

cant wait till google OS

8/25/2005 7:27:54 PM

I don't think Google could develop a credible OS in a year.

Windows took decades

same with Linux...and Linux isn't even ready for primetime yet.

8/25/2005 7:31:14 PM