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Does "W" want to fuck his mommy?



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Oedipus Prez

By Barbara O'Brien


Somewhere in Shrink Heaven, Sigmund Freud is looking down at the White House and saying, "I told you so."

In Part I of Dysfunction Nation I wrote, "George W. Bush's entire presidency is little more than an acting-out of his own unresolved Oedipal conflicts." Even if his desires to defeat his father and win his mother are subconscious to him, they are painfully obvious to many others.

First red flag -- Bush's administration consists of people who used to work for his Old Man. Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, etc., etc. -- all came out of the Bush I Administration. Isn't it remarkable that the son, eight years and a generation apart, had developed so few working relationships with competent, capable people on his own, but had to borrow his Dad's old staff?

Second red flag -- Bush I's biggest mistake as president, according to conservatives, was to raise taxes (after the "read my lips" pledge not to). And the son is monomaniacally bent on cutting taxes.

Third red flag -- the Iraq War, for several reasons. The neocons were obsessed with Bush I's "mistake" of not taking out Saddam Hussein after the Gulf War. "Armchair Freudians believe that in going to Baghdad and toppling Saddam, George II was playing Oedipal tennis with George I," wrote Michael Kinsley. "If so, junior has lost. The elder Bush's most notorious decision as president looks better every day."

But at the same time, the build-up to the Gulf War, when President Bush I pulled together a real international coalition to oppose Saddam Hussein, is praised as a major diplomatic accomplishment to this day. The Bush II Administration's contemptuousness toward diplomacy points to a son wanting to show up his father (and failing).

The Oedipal struggle of the Bushes -- a father who was an ambassador to the U.N. and an envoy to China, a globe-trotting vice president and an internationalist president, and a son who was a Texas governor with little knowledge of the world -- was bound to be aggravated by an invasion of Iraq not sanctioned by the U.N.

Here was a son acting to correct his father's "mistakes" in the first Gulf War, when his father did not think he had made a mistake but rather a great contribution to history. [Maureen Dowd, "An Oedipal Struggle in the House of Bush," New York Times/ Times Union, April 2, 2003]

Armchair Analysis. According to the Joseph Campbell/Robert Bly hypotheses (see Part I), in our culture boys grow up lacking contact with men, even their own fathers. Therefore, they are uninitiated into true manhood and tend to remain stuck in a prolonged adolescence. Clinical psychologist Alvin Walker speculates that, at a critical point in his emotional development, young George was cut off from both mother and father.

As the first-born child, he spent much of his early childhood in an essentially single parent home since his father was frequently away on extended business trips. To exacerbate matters even more, he had a younger sister who died of leukemia just two months shy of her fourth birthday when "Shrub" was just seven years old. The sister's illness probably took up much of the mother's time, energy, and emotional focus making her less available to her other children. I also suspect that his mother may have been reactively depressed during this arduous and traumatic period making her even less emotionally available during a crucially important, developmental period of "Shrub" Bush's life. [Alvin Wyman Walker, Ph.D., " 'Shrub' Bush's Pathological Focus on Saddam Hussein," The Black Commentator, February 6, 2003]

Walker goes on to explain why this is significant:

Lack of parental availability typically leads to lack of parent-child attunement. And lack of parent-child attunement often makes for deficient empathic ability and a relative inability to identify with others. Frequently, such youngsters become rule busters or rule breakers as adults in the psychopathic sense. Clinicians who have studied attachment have noted the similarities between the behavioral manifestations of insecure attachment and disruptive behavior disorders. Antisocial behavior is seen, in part, as a covert communication to an unresponsive, emotionally distant parental figure. Perhaps this perspective illuminates, in part, the dynamic of "Shrub" Bush's unilateralism, his disavowal of treaties, and his seeming proclivity to violate international law with impunity. It is as if he thinks rules do not apply to him. [Ibid.]

So, little George got a double-whammy of mis-parenting. He's not only an emotionally immature weenie; he's a cold-hearted emotionally immature weenie. Myriam Miedzian saw a streak of cruelty in George Bush, linking his childhood game of blowing up frogs with firecrackers to his callousness toward executions (including making fun of the condemned Karla Faye Tucker.) "Mr. Bush's much-vaunted religious conversion seems to have done little to encourage Christian mercy," Miedzian wrote.

I shall never forget former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, who played a major role in one of our greatest foreign policy mistakes -- the Vietnam War -- speaking regretfully of errors he and others made during the Cold War. In a 1988 interview, he told me that "the necessity of looking at your actions through the eyes of your opponent -- that is absolutely fundamental, and we don't do that." [Myriam Miedzian, "Growing Up Is Hard to Do," The Baltimore Sun, September 12, 2000]

Miedzian wrote this in 2000, back when going to war was unthinkable except on Saturday Night Live skits. But it amounts to a prophecy of how the Bushies would misjudge an invasion of Iraq -- they are incapable of seeing their actions through the eyes of others. (They saw themselves as glorious liberators; therefore, the Iraqis would see them as glorious liberators. Wouldn't they?)

Voice of God? Bush says that God wanted him to be President.

Bush said to James Robinson[sic]: 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.' [Paul Harris, "Bush Says God Chose Him to Lead His Nation," The Observer, November 2, 2003]

As anyone who's dabbled in mysticism knows, such "heavenly" messages are usually from one's own subconscious. Only the very wise and the brutally introspective can tell the difference, and Bush is neither. And given that Bush is remarkably insensitive to the needs of citizens, as well as unconcerned about protecting America and its resources for the future, one wonders why he wanted to be president. He doesn't want to serve the country or the people. Clearly, he became President for the glory of the thing, and to show up his Old Man. And we're stuck with him for at least another year.

From time to time, the Old Man sends out signals that he is displeased with his son. Most recently, the 2003 George Bush Award for Excellence in Public Service went to Iraq War and Dubya opponent Senator Edward Kennedy. But if the son has noticed these slights, it has not registered publicly. According to the Boston Globe, Bush the younger has

embarked upon a policy designed to counter, or even to wipe out, his father's entire political legacy. The father lived his life in the service of moderate and intelligent internationalism. His manners were always meticulously courteous, as he wooed even critics overseas to see the American position. He was even-handed in the Middle East and thus brought the area to the verge of peace for the first time in history; he was capable of using force but preferred to do it supported by coalitions of friendly states, thus cementing international cooperation.

The son seems to have made posturing against his father's accomplishments and beliefs his life's work.

The greatest test of Bush's Oedipal urges will come with the 2004 election. Many have said he was deeply angry about his father's loss to Bill Clinton in 1992. If he wins re-election, he finally will have utterly defeated his father. And you know he will stop at nothing to do that. "


http://www.ospolitics.org/usa/archives/2003/12/04/oedipus_pr.php



[Edited on August 24, 2005 at 2:11 PM. Reason : http://www.ospolitics.org/usa/archives/2003/12/04/oedipus_pr.php]

8/24/2005 2:07:26 PM

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8/24/2005 2:20:37 PM

philihp
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who doesn't want to out-do their seniors?

8/25/2005 7:37:39 AM

GGMon
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And you fuckers make fun of MY posts.

8/25/2005 7:45:14 AM

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who wouldnt wanna have sex with barbara bush is the question.

8/25/2005 8:05:40 AM

GGMon
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I'm actually embarrassed for pryderi on this one.

8/25/2005 8:29:43 AM

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Dumbest.

Post.

Ev4r.

8/25/2005 10:13:06 AM

HockeyRoman
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It does point out some serious truths though. Bush I knew what the fuck he was doing when he went to war. And he knew how to end it.

8/25/2005 10:33:34 AM

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i had an English teacher in high school that pronounced Oedipus as "eat-a-puss". As if the word doesn't have enough disturbing associations with it already.....

8/25/2005 11:01:02 AM

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"out some serious truths though"


doesn't point out shit!

8/25/2005 11:01:57 AM

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A billion and one legitimate stories and means to attack Dubya, and he picks the wackiest, most off-the-wall outside analysis of George W. Bush?

8/25/2005 11:02:35 AM

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Maybe that's the point. Jeebus, lighten up. Maybe even he thought it was a little out there and so it needed to be shared with others. How much discussion would the average "W. is a dumbass" article generate? None. This, on the other hand, gets people talking.

GGMon, reading English is hard for you, isn't it?

8/25/2005 11:51:03 AM

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Not at all - however, it seams basic comprehension is one of your weak spots

[Edited on August 25, 2005 at 12:13 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2005 12:12:32 PM

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No, because I actually understood how this article illustrates how George I knew how to lead a war against Iraq and get the job done whereas W. knows how to send troops on his own and has no plan as to how conclude an operation.

8/25/2005 12:22:28 PM

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and you know how to end it?

I say we take the whole motherfucker over, kill everyone and tap the bitch like a big keg of oil

but then again, I don't give a fuck, I don't plan on visiting

8/25/2005 1:01:19 PM

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"If he wins re-election, he finally will have utterly defeated his father."

I HOPE WE GET THIS ELECTION SQUARED AWAY SOON

8/25/2005 1:01:21 PM

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Here HockeyRoman - let me help you:

1) Log out of TWW
2) Surf over to http://www.google.ca
3) In the textbox, type the following (no quotes) " define proff"
4) Click on the “I'm feeling lucky” button
5) Read the screen
6) Buy yourself a clue.

That should help. It always amazes me how somewhat intelligent people still don't know the difference between assumptions / conjecture and actual proof / truth.

8/25/2005 2:02:08 PM

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" it seams basic comprehension spelling is one of your weak spots
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8/25/2005 2:04:06 PM

GGMon
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SPELLING SMACK RULEZ

8/25/2005 2:05:14 PM

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"define proff""
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" SUBROUTINE POLYP(N,NUMT,COEF,KDEG,IFLG1,IFLG2,EPSBIG,EPSSML,
$ NUMRR,NN,MMAXT,TTOTDG,LAMBDA,ROOTS,ARCLEN,NFE,TOTDG,
$ PDG,QDG,R,FACV,CL,Y,YP,YOLD,YPOLD,QR,ALPHA,TZ,W,
$ WP,Z0,Z1,SSPAR,PAR,IDEG,ICOUNT,PIVOT,IPAR)
C
C THE PURPOSE OF POLYP IS TO ALIAS THE WORKSPACES "WK" AND
C "IWK" IN POLSYS TO THE VARIABLES "PDG" THROUGH "IPAR".
C POLYP GENERATES THE START POINTS FOR THE PATHS AND CALLS THE
C PATH TRACKER POLYNF .
C
C SUBROUTINES CALLED: INITP, STRPTP, POLYNF, OTPUTP .
C
C ON INPUT:
C
C N,NUMT,COEF,KDEG,IFLG1,IFLG2,EPSBIG,EPSSML,NUMRR,NN,
C MMAXT,TTOTDG ARE AS DESCRIBED IN POLSYS.
C
C TOTDG IS THE TOTAL DEGREE OF THE SYSTEM.
C
C PDG,QDG,R,FACV,CL,Y,YP,YOLD,YPOLD,QR,ALPHA,TZ,W,WP,Z0,
C Z1,SSPAR,PAR,IDEG,ICOUNT,PIVOT,IPAR ARE VARIABLES.
C
C ON OUTPUT:
C
C LAMBDA,ROOTS,ARCLEN,NFE ARE AS DESCRIBED IN POLSYS.
C ----------------------------------------------------------------------
C
C TYPE DECLARATIONS
INTEGER N,NUMT,KDEG,IFLG1,IFLG2,NUMRR,NN,MMAXT,
$ TTOTDG,NFE,TOTDG,IDEG,ICOUNT,PIVOT,IPAR
INTEGER I,I1,I2,I3,IDUMMY,IFLAG,IJ,IJP1,INDEX,IPROFF,J,LIPAR,
$ LPAR,N2,N2P1,NNFE,NP1,NUMPAT,PROFF,TRACE
DOUBLE PRECISION COEF,EPSBIG,EPSSML,LAMBDA,ROOTS,
$ ARCLEN,PDG,QDG,R,FACV,CL,Y,YP,YOLD,YPOLD,
$ QR,ALPHA,TZ,W,WP,Z0,Z1,SSPAR,PAR
DOUBLE PRECISION AARCLN,ANSAE,ANSRE,ARCAE,ARCRE,XNP1
C
C ARRAY DECLARATIONS
DIMENSION NUMT(NN),KDEG(NN,NN+1,MMAXT),IFLG2(TTOTDG),
$ NFE(TTOTDG),IDEG(N),ICOUNT(N),PIVOT(2*N+1),
$ IPAR(42 + 2*N + N*(N+1)*MMAXT)
DIMENSION IPROFF(15),LIPAR(15),LPAR(25),PROFF(25)
DIMENSION COEF(NN,MMAXT),LAMBDA(TTOTDG),
$ ROOTS(2,NN+1,TTOTDG), ARCLEN(TTOTDG),
$ PDG(2,N),QDG(2,N),R(2,N),FACV(N),CL(2,N+1),
$ Y(2*N+1),YP(2*N+1),YOLD(2*N+1),YPOLD(2*N+1),
$ QR(2*N,2*N+2),ALPHA(2*N+1),TZ(2*N+1),W(2*N+1),
$ WP(2*N+1),Z0(2*N+1),Z1(2*N+1),SSPAR(8),
$ PAR(2 + 28*N + 6*N**2 + 7*N*MMAXT + 4*N**2*MMAXT)
DIMENSION XNP1(2)
C
N2=2*N
NP1=N+1
N2P1=N2+1
IF (NUMRR .LE. 0) NUMRR=1
C
C INITIALIZATION
C
CALL INITP(IFLG1,N,NUMT,KDEG,COEF,NN,MMAXT,PAR,IPAR,
$ IDEG,FACV,CL,PDG,QDG,R)
C
C INTEGER VARIABLES AND ARRAYS TO BE PASSED IN IPAR:
C
C IPAR INDEX VARIABLE NAME LENGTH
C ---------- ------------- -----------------
C 1 N 1
C 2 MMAXT 1
C 3 PROFF 25
C 4 IPROFF 15
C 5 IDEG N
C 6 NUMT N
C 7 KDEG N*(N+1)*MMAXT
C
C
C DOUBLE PRECISION VARIABLES AND ARRAYS TO BE PASSED IN PAR:
C
C PAR INDEX VARIABLE NAME LENGTH
C ---------- ------------- -----------------
C 1 PDG 2*N
C 2 CL 2*(N+1)
C 3 COEF N*MMAXT
C 4 H N2
C 5 DHX N2*N2
C 6 DHT N2
C 7 XDGM1 2*N
C 8 XDG 2*N
C 9 G 2*N
C 10 DG 2*N
C 11 PXDGM1 2*N
C 12 PXDG 2*N
C 13 F 2*N
C 14 DF 2*N*(N+1)
C 15 XX 2*N*(N+1)*MMAXT
C 16 TRM 2*N*MMAXT
C 17 DTRM 2*N*(N+1)*MMAXT
C 18 CLX 2*N
C 19 DXNP1 2*N
C
C SET LENGTHS OF VARIABLES
LIPAR(1)=1
LIPAR(2)=1
LIPAR(3)=25
LIPAR(4)=15
LIPAR(5)=N
LIPAR(6)=N
LIPAR(7)=N*(N+1)*MMAXT
LPAR( 1)=2*N
LPAR( 2)=2*NP1
LPAR( 3)=N*MMAXT
LPAR( 4)=N2
LPAR( 5)=N2*N2
LPAR( 6)=N2
LPAR( 7)=2*N
LPAR( 8)=2*N
LPAR( 9)=2*N
LPAR(10)=2*N
LPAR(11)=2*N
LPAR(12)=2*N
LPAR(13)=2*N
LPAR(14)=2*N*NP1
LPAR(15)=2*N*NP1*MMAXT
LPAR(16)=2*N*MMAXT
LPAR(17)=2*N*NP1*MMAXT
LPAR(18)=2*N
LPAR(19)=2*N
C
C PROFF AND IPROFF ARE OFFSETS THAT DEFINE THE VARIABLES LISTED ABOVE
PROFF(1)=1
DO 10 I=2,19
PROFF(I)=PROFF(I-1)+LPAR(I-1)
10 CONTINUE
IPROFF(1)=1
DO 11 I=2,7
IPROFF(I)=IPROFF(I-1)+LIPAR(I-1)
11 CONTINUE
C
C DEFINE VARIABLES
IPAR(1)=N
IPAR(2)=MMAXT
DO 16 I=1,19
IPAR(IPROFF(3) + (I-1))= PROFF(I)
16 CONTINUE
DO 18 I=1,7
IPAR(IPROFF(4) + (I-1))= IPROFF(I)
18 CONTINUE
DO 20 I=1,N
IPAR(IPROFF(5) + (I-1))= IDEG(I)
IPAR(IPROFF(6) + (I-1))= NUMT(I)
20 CONTINUE
DO 22 I1=1, N
DO 22 I2=1, NP1
DO 22 I3=1, NUMT(I1)
INDEX=IPROFF(7) + (I1-1) + N*(I2-1) + N*NP1*(I3-1)
IPAR(INDEX) = KDEG(I1,I2,I3)
22 CONTINUE
DO 36 I1=1,2
DO 36 I2=1,N
PAR(PROFF( 1) +(I1-1) + 2*(I2-1))= PDG(I1,I2)
36 CONTINUE
DO 37 I1=1,2
DO 37 I2=1,NP1
PAR(PROFF( 2) +(I1-1) +2*(I2-1))= CL(I1,I2)
37 CONTINUE
DO 38 I1=1,N
DO 38 I2=1, NUMT(I1)
PAR(PROFF( 3) +(I1-1) + N*(I2-1))=COEF(I1,I2)
38 CONTINUE
C
C ICOUNT IS A COUNTER USED BY "STRPTP"
ICOUNT(1)=0
DO 50 J=2,N
ICOUNT(J)=1
50 CONTINUE
C
C PATHS LOOP -- ITERATE THROUGH PATHS
C
DO 1000 NUMPAT = 1,TOTDG
C GET A START POINT, Y, FOR THE PATH.
Y(1) = 0.0
CALL STRPTP(N,ICOUNT,IDEG,R ,Y(2))
C CHECK WHETHER PATH IS TO BE FOLLOWED.
IFLAG = IFLG2(NUMPAT)
IF (IFLAG .NE. -2) GO TO 1000
ARCRE = EPSBIG
ARCAE = ARCRE
ANSRE = EPSSML
ANSAE = ANSRE
TRACE = 0
C TRACK A HOMOTOPY PATH.
DO 65 IDUMMY=1,NUMRR
CALL POLYNF(N2,Y,IFLAG,ARCRE,ARCAE,ANSRE,ANSAE,TRACE,
$ QDG,NNFE,AARCLN,YP,YOLD,YPOLD,QR,ALPHA,TZ,PIVOT,W,WP,
$ Z0,Z1,SSPAR,PAR,IPAR)
IF (IFLAG .NE. 2 .AND. IFLAG .NE. 3) GOTO 66
65 CONTINUE
66 CONTINUE
C UNSCALE AND UNTRANSFORM COMPUTED SOLUTION.
CALL OTPUTP(N,NUMPAT,CL,FACV,PAR(PROFF(18)),Y(2),XNP1)
LAMBDA(NUMPAT) = Y(1)
DO 70 J=1,N
DO 70 I=1,2
IJ=2*J+I-2
IJP1=IJ+1
ROOTS(I,J,NUMPAT) = Y(IJP1)
70 CONTINUE
DO 72 I=1,2
ROOTS(I,NP1,NUMPAT) = XNP1(I)
72 CONTINUE
ARCLEN(NUMPAT)= AARCLN
NFE(NUMPAT) = NNFE
IFLG2(NUMPAT) = IFLAG
1000 CONTINUE
C
RETURN
END

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[Edited on August 25, 2005 at 2:06 PM. Reason : wtf]

8/25/2005 2:06:00 PM

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and why the fuck are you sending him to google.ca

8/25/2005 2:08:01 PM

sober46an3
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haha.. youre on a roll today, woodfoot.

you win today.

8/25/2005 2:08:38 PM

HockeyRoman
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Way to pwnt yourself, GGClown.

8/25/2005 6:32:33 PM

Woodfoot
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^^boo-yah!

8/25/2005 8:43:14 PM

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he's gone overboard with this one

8/25/2005 9:32:38 PM

Mr. Joshua
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I hate it when people with no understanding of psychology try to diagnose someone.

competing with father =/= oedipus complex

8/26/2005 1:23:13 AM

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Oh ya- major PWNT. Sorry, should have typed http://www.yahoo.ca

8/26/2005 11:25:57 AM

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8/26/2005 11:50:58 AM

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what is this shit about canada

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wtf?

8/26/2005 11:59:32 AM

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