TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
I'm hedging, but I'd say a toss-up between Clarence Thomas and Miguel Estrada... 9/3/2005 11:21:25 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Migeul Estrada isn't even a justice... yet. I hope he gets on the board.
I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE IT IS CLARENCE THOMAS! OH PLEASE GOD LET IT BE THOMAS! 9/3/2005 11:25:03 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
SHIT! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 9/3/2005 11:34:08 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "abonorio: Migeul Estrada isn't even a justice... yet." |
True, but there are no Hispanics on the Supreme Court to pick from so Estrada seems the obvious choice if he wants to go that route. I'd prefer Thomas myself though.
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abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
has a non sc justice ever been nominated and sent directly to the chief spot?
But God I hope it's Thomas. I would need a change of pants if that were the choice. 9/3/2005 11:35:18 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
^ Absolutely, it's fairly common.
3 of the last 4 Chief Justices (going backwards, Warren Burger, Earl Warren, and Fred Vinson) were appointed directly to the CJ spot 9/3/2005 11:43:19 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Huh. You learn something everyday. I didn't know that was a practice. 9/3/2005 11:50:13 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
Janice Rogers Brown, DC Circuit Miguel Estrada J. Harvie Wilkinson, 4th circuit J. Michael Luttig, 4th Circuit Professor Mary Ann Glendon 9/3/2005 11:52:09 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Pat Robertson 9/3/2005 11:52:49 PM |
drhavoc All American 3759 Posts user info edit post |
Scalia... oh plz, oh plz. 9/3/2005 11:55:07 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Scalia, isnt the chief chosen by # of years? 9/3/2005 11:55:50 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
really
does it matter? 9/3/2005 11:59:51 PM |
Opstand All American 9256 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't really. Their vote is equal to the other eight's vote. They just get to talk a little more.
I say Roberts has as good a shot at it as anyone. 9/4/2005 12:05:09 AM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
The Chief Justice is selected by the President and confirmed by the Senate. It is quite rare to elevate a sitting Justice to the Chief Justice position.
The advantages a Chief Justice has is that they get to select the writer of the opinion if they are in the majority. This gives the Chief Justice the power, if he sees that he is going to be in the minority, to vote with the majority just so he can take the opinion for himself and then write it very very narrowly.
[Edited on September 4, 2005 at 12:10 AM. Reason : add] 9/4/2005 12:08:44 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Scalia baby! 9/4/2005 12:17:18 AM |
spookyjon All American 21682 Posts user info edit post |
Lucifer, son of the morning. 9/4/2005 12:43:25 AM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
You can't go wrong with either Scalia or Thomas. 9/4/2005 8:18:37 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure it'll be Scaley-a. 9/4/2005 11:13:50 AM |
Smoker4 All American 5364 Posts user info edit post |
It won't be Thomas. You can bet he does NOT want to go through another Senate confirmation process. 9/4/2005 11:26:58 AM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
^ he would if Bush asked him. And surely Bush would think it will help shore up the poor Katrina response, plus he'd then have to appoint someone to replace Thomas's seat (something like Janice Rogers Brown) 9/4/2005 11:56:11 AM |
MathFreak All American 14478 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone who voted against the expansion of eminent domain laws is fine with me. 9/4/2005 12:23:45 PM |
Smoker4 All American 5364 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Nah. There's just no way, especially not if he's married. 9/4/2005 1:37:08 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
^ You're still thinking in the 1980s. This is the 2000s man.
It's like Ann Coulter said, "we have the media now" 9/4/2005 3:18:24 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Anyone who voted against the expansion of eminent domain laws is fine with me." |
I never thought I'd agree with anything MathFreak said. Wow.9/4/2005 4:00:15 PM |
Smoker4 All American 5364 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Dude, the fact of the matter is, he will have to relive that whole fiasco if he's nominated. It doesn't matter if it plays out well in the end, or if people like him; you're talking about an intensely demeaning and difficult process for someone to go through. 9/4/2005 9:59:48 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "TGD: It's like Ann Coulter said, "we have the media now"" |
You crazy conservatives can't seem to make up your mind about this one. Let's bring up the war in Iraq for a second, then we'll see who "has the media now" according to t3h r1ght.9/4/2005 11:03:36 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Smoker4: Dude, the fact of the matter is, he will have to relive that whole fiasco if he's nominated." |
No chance in hell. And you can quote me on that.
Teh L3ft is winning enough on the war, even I don't think they're idiotic enough to waste all of that political capital revisiting the Anita Hill BS...9/4/2005 11:06:57 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Could Scalia survive reconfirmation by the Senate better than Thomas? 9/4/2005 11:54:21 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
Yes; Harry Reid said that Scalia would be a good choice as Chief Justice. 9/5/2005 12:16:00 AM |
Smoker4 All American 5364 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
I don't think we're talking about Teh L3ft here specifically, but rather the usual shit-storm. The shadow of the confirmation hearings will lurk in every press release, and every media report as Clarence Thomas's name resurfaces. It really only has to be mentioned once in public to become a popular meme again; I doubt Robert's Rules of Order will ever be Thomas's main problem. Whisper campaigns and plain old crappy media will make his life Hell.
You do realize the media plays off what people like to hear about, right? The original confirmation hearings had phenomenal ratings for a political farce, and that translates into $texas. 9/5/2005 1:42:32 AM |
Boss DJ All American 1558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Anyone who voted against the expansion of eminent domain laws is fine with me." |
Quote : | "I never thought I'd agree with anything MathFreak said. Wow." |
9/5/2005 1:55:03 AM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Stevens
[Edited on September 5, 2005 at 2:23 AM. Reason : .] 9/5/2005 2:22:33 AM |
johnny57 All American 624 Posts user info edit post |
It will be a minority 9/5/2005 2:23:21 AM |
Smoker4 All American 5364 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like it's John Roberts. Odd... 9/5/2005 7:49:49 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
^ uhh.... yeah, my thoughts exactly..... I just saw that in the "breaking news" tagline on cnn.com, but don't see a full story yet. so a extremely young (by supreme court terms, at least) guy with a sparsely known history all of a sudden nominated for Chief Justice??? I truely hope this is not an attempt to get this approved through Congress because it will be overshadowed by a national emergency.... 9/5/2005 8:32:42 AM |
Smoker4 All American 5364 Posts user info edit post |
^
Seems more like a "two nominations for the price of one" decision to me. Since Roberts is oh-so-agreeable anyway, this basically just amounts to President Bush stacking the deck. Now Democrats don't have to worry about a (presumably) more conservative judge being nominated to the chief justice position, so he's all the more a shoo-in. 9/5/2005 8:38:59 AM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Bush wants to leave his mark for decades. Scalia won't live much longer. 9/5/2005 8:42:50 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
9/5/2005 9:03:04 AM |
mmpatel All American 1653 Posts user info edit post |
it's gonna be John Roberts - just announced about half an hour ago
[Edited on September 5, 2005 at 9:13 AM. Reason : ] 9/5/2005 9:13:32 AM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Has a Supreme Court nominee ever become the Chief Justice at the same time he's been nominated? 9/5/2005 9:16:53 AM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, if you read the thread:
Quote : | "3 of the last 4 Chief Justices (going backwards, Warren Burger, Earl Warren, and Fred Vinson) were appointed directly to the CJ spot" |
9/5/2005 1:54:35 PM |
Opstand All American 9256 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I say Roberts has as good a shot at it as anyone." |
What do I win?9/5/2005 1:57:27 PM |
mmpatel All American 1653 Posts user info edit post |
Brian, I think pryderi 's question relates to the fact that Judge Roberts was a nominee for associate Justice and got eleveted to a chief justice nomination before his confirmation hearings even started
I have a feeling it's happened before, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now... :-) 9/5/2005 2:33:03 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
i don't want roberts as Chief Justice. 9/5/2005 2:36:21 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Brian, I think pryderi 's question relates to the fact that Judge Roberts was a nominee for associate Justice and got eleveted to a chief justice nomination before his confirmation hearings even started" |
Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry if I worded it poorly.9/5/2005 2:47:53 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
makes a bit more sense now... that's a good question. I, as well, am too lazy to look it up. 9/5/2005 3:37:14 PM |
Luigi All American 9317 Posts user info edit post |
Judge Reinhold 9/5/2005 3:40:21 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
Judge Dredd 9/5/2005 3:50:27 PM |
scottncst8 All American 2318 Posts user info edit post |
I AM THE LAW! 9/5/2005 4:03:52 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
^ Second!
9/5/2005 4:07:38 PM |