raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.michaelmoore.com/_images/splash/aaron_broussard.mov
watch this... and then tell me how this bush was ever considered fit to be president..
and I'm sure its OLD... but who fucking cares.... this needs to echo in our minds forever as a testiment to how half the american people made the wrong decision. 9/6/2005 8:23:00 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
JUST ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL 9/6/2005 8:30:36 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't say "bush" is at fault
but the entire government, including him, including the secretary of state, including congress and fema and everyone else, yes, they're at fault
some kids from duke university DROVE TO NEW ORLEANS the other day. all the way to new orleans. they went down there, and they rescued some people who no one else would help, then they drove them back to NC
all the while, the feds are dicking around going "durrr, we can't get anyone in to help."
it's a disgrace. a disgrace. 9/6/2005 8:32:26 PM |
raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
I start at the top and work my way down... he should stop touring and pitch in... 9/6/2005 8:34:48 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
yeah lets send the president in there to rescue people maybe he could be one of the guys in the helicopters that pulls people off roofs or maybe he could do crowd control somewhere that sounds like a brilliant idea 9/6/2005 8:37:12 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
more lies from Michael Moore... what do you expect 9/6/2005 8:37:20 PM |
Pyro Suspended 4836 Posts user info edit post |
You can quote me from posts I made on here years ago, but when the shit hits the fan, you're on your own. There's no use in counting on the government or anyone else to protect you. Police protection is a luxury that only exists when things are going well.
That said, it's a sad situation, and there's plenty of blame to go around, even to the victims that got themselves in the situation to begin with. 9/6/2005 8:37:27 PM |
raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
all I know is that I wish we had a leader
bush sits around too long with his thumb up his ass
bottom line... he could do something... and he's not he's going to survey the damage... why aren't we sending people in to help? blood on his hands... and blood on the hands of those that put him in office
fucking morons voted bush... that's about all I have to say on that. 9/6/2005 8:42:00 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
what do you want bush to do? 9/6/2005 8:43:05 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
I it liked when Russert asked him straight up if Nagin and Blanco bore responsibilty for not being 'more forceful' with respect to evacuations. He didn't answer the question. 9/6/2005 8:43:11 PM |
raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
he could take control of FEMA and do something to actually have them help
he is the president right? 9/6/2005 8:43:47 PM |
johnny57 All American 624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bottom line... he could do something... and he's not he's going to survey the damage... why aren't we sending people in to help? blood on his hands... and blood on the hands of those that put him in office" |
I hope you just havent been watching the news and arent truely retarded.
A shit load of people have already been sent in and a shit load of people have already been rescued.9/6/2005 8:43:51 PM |
raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
I know people there
so I know that americans are being abandoned... 9/6/2005 8:45:25 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "even to the victims that got themselves in the situation to begin with." |
well now, this has been said plenty of times, but some of those people literally had no ability to just leave. even if htey had just hit the road and walked, then they would have been on the road with no shelter when the hurricane hit.9/6/2005 8:45:40 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i hope you arent really suggesting that bush take control of fema 9/6/2005 8:46:14 PM |
johnny57 All American 624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I know people there" |
That doesnt make your statements any less retarded.9/6/2005 8:46:40 PM |
raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
what the hell do you know?
absofuckinglutely nothing... so shut off the ignorance pipeline you fucking douchebag. 9/6/2005 8:48:13 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ So why didn't the local government help them out in the days leading up to the hurricane?
[Edited on September 6, 2005 at 8:48 PM. Reason : ] 9/6/2005 8:48:20 PM |
spookyjon All American 21682 Posts user info edit post |
Burrocracy. 9/6/2005 8:48:33 PM |
johnny57 All American 624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what the hell do you know?
absofuckinglutely nothing... so shut off the ignorance pipeline you fucking douchebag." |
That cut me deep 9/6/2005 8:50:56 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
hey really lets just put the presiednt in charge of fema
also lets put him in charge of the department of labor to help with unemployment can we put him in charge of the federal reserve? that would probably solve the economy problems my old middle school doesn't have enough text books and is underperforming, i say George W. Bush should be the new principal of lowes grove middle school
really he should jsut personally micromanage everything 9/6/2005 8:52:56 PM |
raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
I hope you lose family members soon. then maybe you'll understand... 9/6/2005 8:53:34 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
sorry you lost family members...thats not Bush's fault 9/6/2005 8:55:10 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i understand how people would be irrational if they lost family i know i would
but use some fucking sense man 9/6/2005 8:55:17 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ a.) that's a horrid thing to say. don't wish such things on people b.) he's right, you can't just expect the president to do everything. c.) there are people there now, trying to help as best they can. donations are flying in. we'll save whoever we can d.) hopefully we'll learn form our mistakes this time
[Edited on September 6, 2005 at 8:56 PM. Reason : .] 9/6/2005 8:56:01 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
You should blame the entire state government of LA before anyone else. You do realize that each state has protocol for situations like this. Also, the state gov. should have fixed the levies years ago with state tax money from N.O. On a side note, I hope you realize that Michael Moore is subjecting his stuff on you 9/6/2005 9:00:11 PM |
raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
so micheal moore put that on television?
he made those people say that?
he edited and created that video from thin air?
goddamn... liberal conspiracy abounds.. 9/6/2005 9:01:24 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
its impossible to put clips togethor with an agenda 9/6/2005 9:02:01 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
this is the first time i've seen raven come across like a pathetic cretin on this board 9/6/2005 9:03:32 PM |
raven928 All American 21318 Posts user info edit post |
wow.. just wow... that's it.. ok i've said my piece... 9/6/2005 9:03:40 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
yeah you've really said enough 9/6/2005 9:04:06 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
Clinton handled things like this fairly well
people have FUCKED this situation up
and I hope someone goes to prison for it 9/6/2005 9:08:16 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
which thing that clinton handled are you referring to?
[Edited on September 6, 2005 at 9:16 PM. Reason : just out of curiousity] 9/6/2005 9:10:44 PM |
johnny57 All American 624 Posts user info edit post |
Goddamn this has brought the retard out in people 9/6/2005 9:13:39 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so micheal moore put that on television?
he made those people say that?
he edited and created that video from thin air?
goddamn... liberal conspiracy abounds..
" |
Moore is not balanced in any of his views. He only shows people who support his ideas. From his videos you would think the entire country was liberal (which is clearly not the case at election time).9/6/2005 9:14:22 PM |
Armabond1 All American 7039 Posts user info edit post |
That video is disgustingly depressing.
It was an interview, not a fucking collection of clips.
Summation of our government response to this and the majority of posters on this board: all talk.
This isn't a fucking partisan issue.
[Edited on September 6, 2005 at 9:26 PM. Reason : ed] 9/6/2005 9:19:34 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
did anyone bitching about michael moore actually watch the interview? 9/6/2005 9:20:32 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
The only thing I hear in that interview is "the federal government should do our job for us." No it's not a partisan issue, it's quite clearly an issue of federal vs state level responsibility for their citizens. I wonder how it is that almost routinely cities and towns get nearly leveled in natural disasters all across america, and yet, somehow, NO manages to fall apart?
How is it that with the same protocols and responses that FEMA has had for years, no place else except NO has fallen apart so desperately?
The autonomy and lack of beauracracy that he wants FEMA to have, that's what the state is supposed to have. That's why there's a national guard, that's why disaster management is placed primarily in the state's control, to remove beauracracy.
Disaster management responsibility goes from the bottom up for a reason, because the higher you go into government, the longer it takes for things to happen. 9/6/2005 9:38:40 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
who are they interviewing? john q. public? 9/6/2005 9:41:43 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
A parish president in an interview with Tim Russert. ^^ is a pretty good synopsis.
[Edited on September 6, 2005 at 9:44 PM. Reason : ] 9/6/2005 9:42:59 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
really, if you are relying on the ginormous bureaucratic federal government you are asking for trouble 9/6/2005 9:46:01 PM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
Am I wierd if Hurricane Katrina reminds me of zombies?
I mean, the same kind of shit would happen. 9/6/2005 9:46:10 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i keep thinking of dawn of the dead those snipers were probably just shooting at people who looked like celebrities 9/6/2005 9:47:36 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
nah i think a zombie attack would be put down pretty quickly even without the help of the national guard or whoever else. everyone with the guns would actually have something to shoot at. 9/6/2005 9:47:37 PM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
if these fuckers can't handle a fucking hurricane, seriously 9/6/2005 9:48:35 PM |
P Nis All American 2614 Posts user info edit post |
im glad that the world could care less what college kids have to say, because you liberal fucks have no clue 9/6/2005 9:54:28 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
you people make me sick
you can turn any tragedy into partisan bitching
I hope you all are gassed 9/6/2005 9:56:56 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
hey look i hate this too i just dont think its bush's fault i mean i would love to find something else to hate the guy for but i think most of the responsibility falls elsewhere 9/6/2005 9:58:45 PM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
Is it possible that the reason it took a few days to get rescuers into New Orleans is because the National Guard is required to give its members something like 72 hours to mobilize? It's not like these guys are sitting around in barracks somewhere waiting to be called to duty, they have other jobs, bills, lives, etc to get in order before a deployment. The same goes for active duty military. I'd say that people were there fairly quickly when you consider the huge machine the government has to activate to get troops down there. A vast difference between some rich, spoiled Duke kids jumping into their parent 7-series and driving down there to help, which is cool, but vastly different. All you people wanna do is see the negative and cry about everything the government does or doesn't do quickly enough. Furthermore, if you had asked the citizens of New Orleans two weeks before Katrina hit if they would be willing to have significantly higher taxes in order to match federal funding to reinforce the levees, I guarantee that they would not have agreed. Bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks up in here. 9/6/2005 10:00:51 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
where was FEMA? 9/6/2005 10:12:11 PM |