Fuck New Orleans. Flush it out to sea.

The rest of the areas have my sympathy and support.
Only the French would start a city under sea level next to the ocean, and only the USA would fucking try and fix it.
We have millions of acres of available land. Fucking relocate.

9/15/2005 9:21:29 PM

i'm sure there are plenty of advantadges you take that people don't want to pay for

9/15/2005 9:24:11 PM

Like... (Examples please)

I am saying that it is stupid to rebuild in that area.
Even the Dutch have said that, and they are under water as well.
There is a cost-to-benefit ratio. Holland accepts that they will have a super flood once every 10,000 years, estimations for NO are more like once every 250 years.

We have lots of land, the Dutch don't. We don't need a city under sea level.

[Edited on September 15, 2005 at 9:30 PM. Reason : -]

9/15/2005 9:27:48 PM

"we've spent billions and billions overseas, now its time to look inwards"
-some representative they are interviewing
hey no shit i dont like that either

[Edited on September 15, 2005 at 9:36 PM. Reason : .]

9/15/2005 9:36:05 PM

but to be serious... you wont be paying for this
china will


they arent going to scale back the tax cuts

9/15/2005 9:37:51 PM

there were some people who didn't want to pay DARPA to create the internet yet you use it every day to jack off

i think its ok to pay to restore somebody's HOME

9/15/2005 9:38:16 PM

^ not when the house is under sea level

And actually, this whole disaster is quite good for my company. We make both automotive components and even chain-saw components... can't make enough for chain-saws at the moment, and there is going to be a strong demand for new cars down there soon.

Rebuild the gulf states excluding the coastline (protect that) and NO (relocate it).

9/15/2005 10:01:44 PM

I don't like the idea of rebuilding it either.

Quote :

"but to be serious... you wont be paying for this china will"

The truth of this statement makes it even more upsetting.

9/15/2005 10:03:08 PM

you missed my point:

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"there were some people who didn't want to pay DARPA to create the internet yet you use it every day to jack off"

9/15/2005 10:04:16 PM

think of the debt from iraq
now double that

9/15/2005 10:10:11 PM

We shall create a new economic program; a free trade agreement with this land called Louisiana. It will provide jobs especially at low wages. It will be the Louisiana/America Free Trade Agreement.

And we will call it LAFTA.

9/15/2005 10:21:36 PM

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"The rest of the areas have my sympathy and support."

Why? I mean, one can argue that it's "stupid" to live next to the Gulf at all, what with the raging hurricanes.

Actually I'd say the reverse: it's stupid to have tiny towns on the coast that are entirely wiped out by hurricanes; it's much better to have strong port cities even if they need giant walls around them.

But you can just ask yourself: if the location of New Orleans is so "stupid," then why have millions of people built a giant economic center around it? Are you saying they're all stupid and you're smart? Why isn't Biloxi a major American city, since presumably they were "smart" and settled on higher ground?

9/15/2005 10:23:00 PM

why did people make it into a giant economic center? because it was there and it was close to being in a good spot, thats why. Its at the mouth of the Mississippi River, the biggest river in the US. Relocating it ten miles upriver just didn't make economic sense to the people involved down there, so they figured they could mooch off of the rest of the US taxpayer's dollars to pay for their own laziness.

Well, It aint there no more. So there aint no need to rebuild it in the same place. Cleanup what you can, then build it ten or twenty miles up the river. The net result is the same. It takes four or five extra hours for a ship to get there... whoopty fucking do. They can make that time up in the crossing.

9/15/2005 10:52:25 PM

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"so they figured they could mooch off of the rest of the US taxpayer's dollars to pay for their own laziness."

YES
THEY'VE BEEN PLOTTING THIS FOR YEARS
LITERALLY YEARS

you people are fucking retarded

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"Like... (Examples please)"

i'm assssuming you go/went to nc state
me and my parents didn't want to pay for your ass to go to college
but apparently it serves the state to pay for the actual cost of educating you, while you just pick up a little bit of the tab to make it look good

also, i see you're from farmer
fuck the western part of the state
i'd like for my state tax dollars to only impact my half of the state

oh wait, it doesn't work that way

fuck off

9/15/2005 11:01:18 PM

Quote :

"THEY'VE BEEN PLOTTING THIS FOR YEARS"

Actually, they have. They wanted to make the Federal Government pay to upgrade their levies because they refused to pay for it themselves. The only difference is that they didn't think they would actually run out of time waiting to be saved by the tax payers of other states.

9/16/2005 12:09:52 AM

[Edited on September 16, 2005 at 12:11 AM. Reason : from not a, got it]

9/16/2005 12:11:36 AM

New Orleans is located at a very good economic point, the delta of the Mississippi. When the French settled the area, that location would be extremely ideal because it would allow for a supply point that had access to the sea and the heartland of North America.

There are billions upon billions of dollars wasted on pork in this country, why don't you go and protest those initiatives?

[Edited on September 16, 2005 at 12:16 AM. Reason : m]

9/16/2005 12:16:14 AM

fuck that liberal bush

9/16/2005 12:18:51 AM

^^HEY
ALASKA NEEDS ALL THOSE BRIDGES!

9/16/2005 12:55:28 AM

No

ALASKA NEEDS A MILLION DOLLAR PROMO VIDEO AHEHAHAHEAH

9/16/2005 12:58:12 AM

Ironic how Bush is spending more than us Democrats would ever dream of.

9/16/2005 1:01:56 AM

those crazy liberals get the money from taxes though

republicans get it from loans

makes sense to me

9/16/2005 1:16:30 AM

no wont have more than 200k pple ever again (about twice the size of cary) and thats if theyre lucky

9/16/2005 2:09:12 AM

Quote :

"Only the French "

9/16/2005 3:39:36 AM

^^it probably takes more than 200,000 people just to feed the shipping industry in new orleans, let alone fold shirts at the Gap

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"those crazy liberals get the money from taxes though republicans get it from loans makes sense to me"

uhm
if you pay for something as we spend it, using tax dollars, it costs the nation X
but if we buy something and borrow for it, it costs the nation X+X@Y%xTime

makes sense to me

9/16/2005 9:01:55 AM

It is pure folly to rebuild the entire city on that spot. The land is still sinking and will continue to do so as long as water is being pumped out from below. The older neighborhoods were always above sea level and they can be salvaged for a time. Maybe if they bulldoze the flooded housing, bring in 10-15 feet of fill dirt, and built the levees even higher...that will be fine so long as the state of Louisiana wants to pay for it.

9/16/2005 10:28:39 AM

THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER IS NOT A HUGE ECONOMIC TRADE ROUTE ANYMORE

ITS NOT THE 1800S ANYMORE

9/16/2005 10:34:05 AM

AMERICA IS NOT A HUGE INTERNATIONAL EXPORTER ANYMORE

THIS IS NOT THE 1800S

9/16/2005 10:35:12 AM

NO LETS JUST REBUILD THE CITY IN THE US WITH THE MOST POVERTY AND CRIME

THOSE DEMOCRATS THAT RAN THE LOCAL GOVTS DOWN THERE SHOULD BE REINSTATED

9/16/2005 10:36:26 AM

Treetwister,

You've got to be trolling. Take a look at a US map sometime. See all those states in the midwest - Kansas, Iowa, Illinois, etc, you know - The Breadbasket of the US. How do you think that all that grain and corn gets out of the country?

The port of New Orleans is the largest in the US and 4th largest in the world for a reason dumbass.

9/16/2005 10:49:44 AM

if anyone needs a job . . .

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"Fema is seeking employees to assist in the clean-up and reconstruction in New Orleans. If you konw anyone who is seeking employment please apss this on... $10/hour(80-90 hours per week), Free Transportation to New Orleans,Free Food, and Lodging. For further information, please call: 718-991-0480. Start immediately."

if this is legit, it sounds pretty cool.

9/16/2005 10:56:51 AM

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"How do you think that all that grain and corn gets out of the country?"

You know how they get it to New Orleans? By truck and plane and train...I said NOTHING to downgrade the importance of the seaport in New Orleans...I simply said the MISSISSIPPI RIVER is nowhere near the shipping channel it used to be...you know how all the ships cargo that comes into New Orleans gets to the rest of the country? Truck, train, plane...

9/16/2005 11:13:00 AM

Plane.

Did you just say PLANE?

As in, by air PLANE?

Do you have any idea how expensive it is to ship anything by airplane?

The mississippi is the cheapest way to get goods from the heartland to the ocean.

Where do you kids get some of your notions?

9/16/2005 11:19:34 AM

Look dipshit, I spent 2.5 months paddling down the Mississippi this summer. Barges BY FAR are the least expensive way to transport those goods out of the country by a factor of at least 4. I'll dig up the exact numbers this afternoon but you're way off base here.

Airplanes? - are you fucking serious?

It's not just agri goods either. Metal (scrap and otherwise), coal (how do you think it gets to the midwest), fuel, etc.

I'll dig some numbers for you though. It's really amazing how much a barge holds, and how much traffic there is on the river.

9/16/2005 11:20:28 AM

Have you even bothered to fact check how much weight an airplane can carry?

[Edited on September 16, 2005 at 11:22 AM. Reason : ^^^]

9/16/2005 11:22:18 AM

maybe you didnt understand me

fuck new orleans

they also use helicopters and hovercrafts

9/16/2005 11:27:38 AM

wow
i hope treetwista was trolling

9/16/2005 11:30:02 AM

Yea dude.

Great idea. Fuck an American City.

And whats more, Fuck the entire south besides Florida and Texas because they're too fucking poor and stupid to matter.

Also, everything between california and Texas is a big fucking waste too. Nobody lives there. Fuck them.

And more importantly

Fuck you and the bullshit the people like you subscribe too.

[Edited on September 16, 2005 at 11:32 AM. Reason : peace]

9/16/2005 11:31:41 AM

I want only California and NY to have electoral votes.

9/16/2005 11:34:55 AM

No maybe I should donate all the money that I EARNED to some people who never worked a day in their lives

9/16/2005 11:39:50 AM

OH LOOK
HE'S ADDING SLANDER TO HIS LIST OF FUCKUPS IN THIS THREAD

9/16/2005 11:46:16 AM

YEAH CAUSE WE ALL KNOW SLANDER IS WRITTEN AND NOT SPOKEN

AND LIBEL IS UNHEARD OF IN THE SOAPBOX

9/16/2005 11:46:52 AM

9/16/2005 11:49:39 AM

maybe for those of you who DO want to pay to fix New Orleans, why dont you get up off your internet surfing asses and do something about it...or you can choose NOT to be proactive about it, and instead of helping New Orleans, you can just bitch and moan about it on the Internet...you know, bitching about Bush and not voting sure helped Kerry win the presidency

9/16/2005 11:53:48 AM

Quote :

"Fuck New Orleans. Flush it out to sea."

Fuck you.

9/16/2005 12:15:43 PM

Didn't read most of this, but one early comment caught my attention -- that China will pay for it.

Somewhat true, but what typically happens is that money comes out of the most liquid budgets available.. typically DoD. I happen to work for a contractor so I've been hearing about money that is being cut from DoD b/c of this all the time.

So China ends up paying less for our military because of N.O. reconstruction!

9/16/2005 1:30:55 PM

Quote :

"Yea dude. Great idea. Fuck an American City. And whats more, Fuck the entire south besides Florida and Texas because they're too fucking poor and stupid to matter. "

no fuck Florida, god especially Florida

Quote :

" Also, everything between california and Texas is a big fucking waste too. Nobody lives there. Fuck them. "

southwest >> deep south

9/16/2005 2:25:56 PM

Quote :

"maybe for those of you who DO want to pay to fix New Orleans, why dont you get up off your internet surfing asses and do something about it...or you can choose NOT to be proactive about it, and instead of helping New Orleans, you can just bitch and moan about it on the Internet...you know, bitching about Bush and not voting sure helped Kerry win the presidency"

whats funny is

even if i never get out of this chair

new orleans is getting fixed
and you're paying for it, you AND AVON

so who needs to get out of the chair now

9/16/2005 2:50:50 PM

im not paying anything extra

i believe in providing for myself and my own family...what a crazy fucking concept that is

9/16/2005 3:02:40 PM

so what, are you going to tell them to only take 98% of your taxes, because you don't want to take that new orleans hit

p.s.
i bet 70%+ of the things you use daily to "provide" for "you and yours" are subsidized in some way

DATS HOW AMURRRICA WORKS

9/16/2005 3:13:11 PM