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"Celebrity anti-war protester, fresh off inking a lucrative deal with Speaker's Bureau, has demanded at the HUFFINGTON POST and MICHAEL MOORE'S website that the United States military must immediately leave 'occupied' New Orleans. "I don't care if a human being is black, brown, white, yellow or pink. I donÕt care if a human being is Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, or pagan. I don't care what flag a person salutes: if a human being is hungry, then it is up to another human being to feed him/her. George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power. The only way America will become more secure is if we have a new administration that cares about Americans even if they donÕt fall into the top two percent of the wealthiest.""

http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=503

As I said earlier, centering on one person is a very unsustainable way to run a protest... if all of a sudden sheehan becomes uncredible (which i think she kinda already has), then the whole anti-war movement looks stupid, because they allowed her to be their icon.

[Edited on September 18, 2005 at 12:20 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2005 12:20:14 PM

These are your people, DG. Your comrades-in-arms fighting the oppression of The Man.

You'd have to be naive to think principled opposition wouldn't turn into rank political opportunism.

"OMF OCCUPIED NEW ORLEANS!!1"...

9/18/2005 12:29:18 PM

that's exactly what I don't like about it. I've said from the beginning that I wasn't sure about sheehan and what her actual motivation was, and it didn't matter anyway, because I didn't like putting the fate of the movement on one woman.

That's exactly what I feel the right has done with GW. They've rested everything on his shoulders, and if he went down, they'd go with him.

and also, it's silly to even suggest that they're "Fighting the man." they are "the man," they're just the other half of it.

Anyway, i'm not surprised, just disappointed.

[Edited on September 18, 2005 at 12:31 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2005 12:31:01 PM

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"DirtyGreek: That's exactly what I feel the right has done with GW. They've rested everything on his shoulders, and if he went down, they'd go with him."

The difference is GW is President, if he goes down the GOP goes down regardless if they rest everything on his shoulders or not

ex. Clinton circa 1994

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"DirtyGreek: and also, it's silly to even suggest that they're "Fighting the man." they are "the man," they're just the other half of it."

Tread lightly or they'll revoke your Anarchist Card

[Edited on September 18, 2005 at 12:36 PM. Reason : ---]

9/18/2005 12:35:51 PM

i'm with george on this one... any time someone can be described as a "celebrity protester," it's time to hang up the bullhorn and move on.

9/18/2005 12:46:38 PM

She's just hurting her cause(s).

9/18/2005 12:46:53 PM

she was never that great for the cause anyway, other than by raising awareness by briefly having a national spotlight shining brightly on the protest movement. she's always made some pretty specious arguments, and has presented herself in a way that's always been pretty easy for the conservatives to pick apart and make most moderates dismiss her out of hand as a loony.

9/18/2005 12:50:52 PM

I mean, by nature of her position she would have to be a one-issue woman. If she wanted to retain any credibility, she should have stopped giving statements on other issues because it just dilutes the real issue that she claims to be fighting for.

9/18/2005 2:05:22 PM

I hope her son comes back to life and fucking chokes her.

9/18/2005 2:25:59 PM

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"excuse his self"

9/18/2005 3:08:07 PM

She should've stuck to vigils.

9/18/2005 7:52:23 PM

well maybe this is why they brought galloway along with their little tour so that no matter how batshit insane she gets she will look tame in comparison

9/18/2005 8:21:05 PM

i'm with DG here. i approve of her cause; i just want a different spokesperson/leader. i don't think she's really all about the cause anymore. instead, it's just publicity. well, the right gets pat robertson, so maybe it's not so bad. but yeah, let's get somebody different to lead this cause.

Quote :

"I know there are some Christians who believe that war and their participation in it are morally wrong. While I respect their views and must allow them to follow their consciences, I do not believe the Bible teaches pacifism"

--Pat Robertson

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"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. "

Pat again

That man cracks me up. What a dumb ass.

9/19/2005 10:41:11 AM

If she cared so much about her son who died in the military maybe she should've chosen to request custody of him when she was living with her next husband

9/19/2005 10:53:32 AM

you're just a warm ball of compassion aren't you

and i really hope you're not quoting a chain email that has already been proven hoaxical on tww

9/19/2005 11:04:07 AM

sorry i should be worshipping this worthless bitch, my bad

9/19/2005 11:54:14 AM

I really don't like this girl

Continuing to make lefties look batshit crazy

9/19/2005 12:07:22 PM

^^ Seriously, what you said is 100% factually incorrect. I don't like her, but you're just spouting shit that's propaganda from a fucking email forward.

9/19/2005 12:46:29 PM

prove it or disprove it

oh thats right you cant

cause neither of us know

so quit acting like you do

9/19/2005 12:47:12 PM

^ http://www.snopes.com

look it up. she's only had one husband, dumbass

9/19/2005 6:08:18 PM

Cindy Sheehan was just arrested in NYC.

9/19/2005 9:38:01 PM

FOR BEING A DIRTY HIPPY AND NOT SUPPORTING THE TROOPS

THEY ALL JUST CAUSE TROUBLE THOSE TROUBLEMAKERS. WHY CANT PEOPLE JUST ACCEPT WHATS THERE AND LIVE IN PEACE AND HAPPINESS LIKE ME???

9/19/2005 10:50:13 PM

No, Cindy Sheehan was NOT arrested.

Paul Zulkowitz was. He helped organize the event.

[Edited on September 19, 2005 at 11:15 PM. Reason : Well, he was supposed to organize it. According to the po-po, he forgot to get a permit.]

9/19/2005 11:14:18 PM

9/20/2005 11:31:33 AM

hahahhahahahha gg

9/20/2005 12:29:42 PM

That Cindy Sheehan is quite a whiny bitch.

9/20/2005 1:09:31 PM

I think the GOP paid her to make lefties look even worse

9/20/2005 2:22:55 PM

I agree, and it's working.

9/20/2005 2:56:37 PM

people still care about that bitch?

i wonder what the iraqi people would do if she went over there and told them about her "illegal war"?

OH NO, WE MADE THE WORLD A SAFER PLACE!

9/21/2005 10:48:23 AM

We haven't made the world a safer place yet. That will not be known for probably at least ten to twenty years.

We have made the world temporarily more unstable with the hope of bettering the future by establishing a democracy (by the way, thats not why we went to Iraq in the first place, its like the story of how the great product "liquid paper" was discovered, except people died in this version).

I disagreed with the war in the first place but I am hopeful that Iraq does become a fruitful democracy.

9/21/2005 11:23:45 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/19/sheehan.ap/index.html

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"FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) -- After spending scorching August days with hundreds of war protesters at her makeshift camp near President Bush's Crawford ranch, Cindy Sheehan slipped away each night to her tent or RV for a few quiet moments on her laptop. The words came easily as she opined about the war, U.S. leaders, her critics, her supporters. And the tears started to flow no matter how many times she wrote about her 24-year-old soldier son Casey, who died in Iraq last year. "I miss him more every day. It seems the void in my life grows as time goes on, and I realize I am never going to see him again or hear his voice," Sheehan wrote. "I knew he was going to be a great man. I just had no idea how great he was going to be or how much it was going to hurt me." Now those journal entries are in her book, "Not One More Mother's Child," to be released Wednesday. The paperback also contains some of her speeches to peace groups earlier this year, letters to politicians and writings since leaving Crawford."

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

11/23/2005 3:02:25 PM

it's nice to see her using her son's death to get rich with a book deal. if i was her son i'd be so ashamed and hurt.

11/23/2005 3:21:02 PM

If you were her son, you'd be dead. Not sure that's consistent with being ashamed, or even hurt, for that matter.

11/23/2005 3:53:05 PM

well i am talkin about now and him lookin down on her from heaven. but i guess that thought is too much for u to comprehend huh?

11/23/2005 4:14:04 PM

yeah, because heaven is going to have this giant window that everyone can look down on earth and become terribly depressed at all the bullshit going on. sounds like the greatest place ever!

11/23/2005 5:28:54 PM

Well great. Grandma watches me masturbate.

11/23/2005 5:30:32 PM

grandma is like billy nooooooooooooo

11/23/2005 11:16:00 PM

The Bush-Cheney crowd has made and will make alot more money than Cindy. The other difference is that they make the money off the death of thousands of other mother's sons.

11/23/2005 11:29:25 PM

allow me to understand, please, how writing a book about your son is exploitative...

I'm not saying it's impossible that she's using her son's death, but you can't just ASSUME she is

11/23/2005 11:33:48 PM

is she giving it away for free? or, is she selling it at cost? if she aint, then she is just making money off of his death

11/24/2005 12:01:51 AM

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"grandma is like billy nooooooooooooo"

Hey now, we don't need to get into that.

11/24/2005 12:55:20 AM

pryderi must think it's okay for sheehan, since, at least it's HER son she's makin money off of, right?

11/24/2005 3:01:22 AM

11/24/2005 12:36:43 PM

Sheehan is a dumbass just like Bush. Now I don't really know why we are in Iraq, but we are there and we owe it to these people to help fix their country back up. We blew it up and have an obligation to fix it. Pulling out is not an option until Iraq is stablized.

11/25/2005 2:53:54 AM

^^victim of judicial tyrrany

and in death, cindys son is a victim of the activists on the left

11/26/2005 8:59:43 PM

i thought he was a victim of some iraqi freedom fighter

11/26/2005 10:00:09 PM

Yes, some libby and his cardboard poster saying "No war" made Cindy Sheehan's son a victimn not as Woodfoot said, an "Iraqi Freedom Fighter."

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"victim of judicial tyrrany"

I guess that by your logic, that Sun Hudson was killed by a tyrannical governor


[quote]Take a Look in the Mirror
The pols confused law with theology and allowed tabloidism to trump privacy.

By Jonathan Alter
Newsweek
April 4 issue - When he was governor of Texas, George W. Bush presided over 152 executions, more than took place in the rest of the country combined. In at least a few of these cases, reasonable doubts about the guilt of the condemned were raised. But Bush cut his personal review time for each case from a half hour to a mere 15 minutes (most other governors spend many hours reviewing each capital case to assure themselves that there's no doubt of guilt). His explanation was that he trusted the courts to sort through the life-and-death complexities. That's right: the courts.


I bring up that story because it's just one of several ironies that have arisen in connection with the Terri Schiavo saga, in which the president said that the government "ought to err on the side of life." Fine, but whose life? The inmate who might not be guilty? The poor people across the country denied organ transplants (and thus life) because Medicaid—increasingly under the Bush budget knife—won't cover them? The poor people across the world starving to death because we won't go along with Tony Blair when it comes to addressing global poverty?

Sun, a 6-month-old baby with a fatal form of dwarfism, was allowed to die in a Texas hospital over his mother Wanda's objections. Under a 1999 law signed by Bush, who was then governor, cost-conscious hospitals are empowered to decide when care is "futile." The Hudson case is the first time ever that a court has allowed bean counters to override the wishes of parents. "They gave up in six months," Wanda Hudson told the Houston Chronicle. "They made a terrible mistake." Wanda apparently was not "cable ready," as they say in the television world, and she failed to get Randall Terry and the radical anti-abortionists on her side. Tom DeLay never called.


Could there be—perish the thought—politics at work here? Knowing that they cannot deliver on a gay-rights amendment or abortion ban, Karl Rove & Co. settled on bonding to the base with the Schiavo case. The beauty part, as Ross Perot used to say, was that they could be cynical and sincere at the same time, even if it meant twisting themselves into ideological pretzels. The same conservatives who have spent the last generation attacking "judicial activism" and federal intrusion in state jurisdictions were suddenly advocating what they had so long abhorred.

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 1:08 AM. Reason : good lord]

11/27/2005 1:06:40 AM

what is there to get

she's a stupid cunt who's ruined any honor her son once had by exploiting his death in a cause for which she is just a puppet

i mean, it's cut and dry here folks

11/27/2005 1:08:04 AM

why is this thread still on here?

11/27/2005 11:59:00 PM

I believe it is still on here due to contributions from viewers like you.

11/28/2005 12:49:34 AM