Now i just need someone to help me to put this in...



[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 3:04 AM. Reason : Turbo.]

10/12/2005 3:04:04 AM

dont make it look like a piece of shit like you did that altima, IE no supra spoiler and "chrome reflective tint." actually, now that i think about it, with your taste, its inevitable.




[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 3:21 AM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 3:17:27 AM

This kid's a fucking moron... just don't even bother.

10/12/2005 3:25:33 AM

if you wanted turbo....

10/12/2005 3:25:33 AM

yea dont bother with the turbo...the only chance at long term reliability is leaving it how it is right now

10/12/2005 3:35:53 AM

^ y? they make these cars with Turbos with the same engine?

but i want to put a turbo it in it and i dunno where to start?

i thin it might be cheaper than buying a gs-t or gsx..correct me if iam wrong..




[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 4:00 AM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 3:39:04 AM

GS-T ?

10/12/2005 3:41:33 AM

i liked this one for the price though...

10/12/2005 3:42:30 AM

was it less than an NA + turbo setup and probably labor?

10/12/2005 3:43:50 AM

GSX... omg, I can't believe you did that. Sorry my friend, you made the same error that I did last year when I bought a GS. How much did you pay for it? I say get rid of it and buy a turboed one. I know plenty of 2g DSM's being sold that are nice as hell.

10/12/2005 3:44:37 AM

i got it from a dealer freind for an auction price



[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 3:58 AM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 3:45:12 AM

so sell it and buy a gs-t

10/12/2005 3:51:03 AM

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[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 3:53 AM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 3:53:40 AM

so how much do you thin the turbo would cost with everything for it?

isnt it cheaper to put a turbo that is better than the 1g in the gs-t?

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 3:56 AM. Reason : maybe?]

10/12/2005 3:54:39 AM

kits can cost thousands

didnt you look into this before buying the car?

10/12/2005 3:56:23 AM

yea, but i was hoping for a good used cheap one

10/12/2005 3:57:43 AM

why even bother

10/12/2005 3:58:51 AM

seriously

youre going to blow a perfectly good motor

sell it and get a gs-t or gs-x or leave it alone is my advice

10/12/2005 4:01:08 AM

^^my first "Real" project...and the fact of having a turbo in my car.

^ i really love the color on this car with the leather and dash board and all the features it has...i might do that but i have to finish the payments on this car first.

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 4:07 AM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 4:01:09 AM

kits go from 2800 and up for 2g's. With stock NA motor, you're not gonna run a lot of boost. And if you think you can just and a turbo, think again. Thats why they sell kits, so you have everything you need. Just buying a cheap turbo isn't going to help as you'd need piping, new manifold, BOV, and so on. Even if you find all the stuff on ebay, it'll still cost atleast 1000, not to mention all the labor involved and if this is your 1st "project" car, your not gonna have that much experience in adding a turbo to a non turbo car without a kit or have someone else do it.

In that case, if you got it cheap, sell it for a good price, make some money, and buy a real turboed DSM. Check carolinadsm.com for more info you want. There are a few people on there selling 2g GST's or GSX's for around the 6 grand mark.

Atleast the GS is manual. But the engine is not the same in the NA vs the turboed DSM's.

10/12/2005 4:08:12 AM

whats the diffrence... i really tried to find out..and all i know is that the engine is put diffrently in the car gs and gs-t..but both are 2.0L engines with the same engine features and that one was built by mitsubishi and the other by dodge / chrysler (same parts though)?

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 4:14 AM. Reason : and one is turbo while the other isnt...]

10/12/2005 4:12:48 AM

congradulations, you just bought a dodge neon

10/12/2005 4:13:33 AM

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[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 4:16 AM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 4:15:49 AM

im serious, thats exactly what it is. same engine as in neons and shitty 4 cyl stratus

10/12/2005 4:19:15 AM

so its not the same as the gs-t or gsx engines?

isnt it the same parts and all (japan made, American Built)?

10/12/2005 4:25:23 AM

http://www.dsmtuners.com/model-guide/modeldetails-eclipse2ga.php

Quote :

"Engine Code 420A Type 2.0l DOHC 16-valve SEFI Inline 4 cylinder Construction cast iron block / cast iron bed plate /aluminum alloy head Displacement 1996 cm3 [121.8 cu in.] Firing order 1-3-4-2 Horsepower 140 bhp @ 6000 rpm [104 kW] Torque 130 ft-lbs @ 4800 rpm [177 N-m] BHP/litre 70.1 Max engine speed MT 7300 rpm (electronically limited) Max engine speed AT 6464 rpm (electronically limited) Compression 170-225 psi [1.172-1.551 kPa] Allowable variance Max 25% Compression ratio 9.6:1 Bore X Stroke 87.5 mm x 83 mm [3.44 in x 3.27 in] "

Quote :

"Engine: .............. Mitsubishi 4G63T iron block, aluminum head 2-liter (1,997 cm3, 121 CID), inline-4 DOHC 16-valve compression ratio 1:8.5 (bore x stroke 85 x 88 mm) Garrett T-25 turbo with integral wastegate (12psi) (side-mounted intercooler) 7000rpm redline Transmission: ........ 5-speed manual Performance (manual transmission) Horsepower: .... 210 HP @ 6000rpm Torque: ........ 214 ft-lbs @ 3000rpm Acceleration: .. 0-60mph: 6.5s 1/4 mi: 15s "

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 5:14 AM. Reason : ]

10/12/2005 5:05:10 AM

mabrook

10/12/2005 10:18:15 AM

you are the joke of the year

10/12/2005 11:01:32 AM

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10/12/2005 12:29:26 PM

FYI, the engine blocks may be the same, but the GSX more than likely has stronger/forged internals which would allow higher compression ratios so you don't blow the block. I like strokers though, (N/A inspired). But i felt like throwing in my $0.02.

10/12/2005 12:31:47 PM

Quote :

"more than likely"

10/12/2005 12:52:40 PM

10/12/2005 1:03:10 PM

Quote :

"but the GSX more than likely has stronger/forged internals which would allow higher compression ratios so you don't blow the block"

wouldnt you want lower CR for FI?

(yes you would)

10/12/2005 1:20:04 PM

why buy a non-turbo in the first place when u want a turbo.

oh yeah free stone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 1:27 PM. Reason : free stone niggas]

10/12/2005 1:20:37 PM

10/12/2005 1:21:43 PM

A stock GS-T is going to be way more reliable than an N/A with a turbo kit.

10/12/2005 2:30:10 PM

^ true

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 2:32 PM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 2:32:18 PM

tchenku pointed out what I was going to say. second gen NA dsm's have a 420a.. the same motor as a neon expresso/rt (dohc). there are some decent turbo kits for it, but they aren't cost/performance efficient. leave it stock or buy a turbo.

10/12/2005 2:41:09 PM

seriously that's a decent car down ruin it, buy a turbo dsm if you want. i bet that clutch wont be able to hold a turbo for long also that car is simply not built for a turbo dont do it unless you want to waste ur money

10/12/2005 4:47:58 PM

Quote :

"IE no supra spoiler"

did you look at the pics?

10/12/2005 5:00:10 PM

no question about this one. sell it and buy a GSX.

10/12/2005 5:36:55 PM

dude just keep this one put some killer tail lights on it, some badazz stickers, a killer body kit, and oh how could i forget NAWWWWWSSSSSSS

10/12/2005 6:29:06 PM

^ No way... I like it the way it is.

About buying a GSX or GS-T, I have been thinking about it and i went to couple dealers here in houston texas that i know, but i didnt see hard-tops / sunroof GS-T's with leather and white speedometer in the dash...they were convertibles, and plain looking from the inside. As for GSX, I loved it but the one i saw had an ugly color...dark purple...but iam really thinking about the GSX and not wasting money putting a turbo on this one, instead just trade it in or like someone said just sell it and buy the other...but that wont be anytime soon ( maybe next semster or two).

Thanks

10/12/2005 7:53:07 PM

deal with the purple

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 7:55 PM. Reason : yep]

10/12/2005 7:55:38 PM

Quote :

"^ y? they make these cars with Turbos with the same engine? but i want to put a turbo it in it and i dunno where to start? i thin it might be cheaper than buying a gs-t or gsx..correct me if iam wrong.. "

obviously this has been answered by now, the turbos alone aren't the only difference in the turbo and NA version of this car. also, if you dont know where to start then seriously do yourself a favor (and the value of the car for that matter) and don't waste your time or money

10/12/2005 8:06:37 PM

Quote :

"but i didnt see hard-tops / sunroof GS-T's with leather and white speedometer in the dash..."

man, no white speedometer? are you fucking serious, thats crazy, no way I would buy a car if it didnt come with a white speedo...

10/12/2005 8:11:54 PM

I totally expected the cartoon car from chit chat

10/12/2005 8:15:36 PM

we all did haha, it was originally here first

10/12/2005 8:17:50 PM

gg on doing your research before sinking thousands into the purchase of a car though

10/12/2005 8:35:09 PM