Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Guys, please go see this movie. Due to poor marketing, this franchise could be extinct unless more people see this, and prompt a second season of firefly (it's counterpart)
The movie is fucking badass (already in top movies of all time on IMDB from 18K votes). I promise you its a shitload of fun. 10/17/2005 12:27:15 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
i thought the real money was made in DVD sales 10/17/2005 12:29:49 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
saw it
loved it 10/17/2005 12:46:31 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
the critics gave it a rave given the difficult nature of the sci fi genre
it was certaintly awesome 10/17/2005 12:53:50 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
How good would it be for someone who has never seen (or heard of) Firefly? 10/17/2005 12:58:15 PM |
EmptyFriend All American 3686 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure theres like 5 threads about this movie already. 10/17/2005 1:04:45 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The movie is fucking badass " |
Quote : | "it was certaintly awesome" |
Quote : | "i'm pretty sure theres like 5 threads about this movie already." |
10/17/2005 1:08:58 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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Quote : | "How good would it be for someone who has never seen (or heard of) Firefly?" |
I never saw firefly and knew barely nothing about it going in and I loved it.10/17/2005 1:36:24 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
i still don't understand why you people think that rave reviews and pleading will convince the same people who wouldn't watch the show on tv when all they had to do was stay on the couch and change the channel to leave the house, drive to the theater, and pay money to watch this shit 10/17/2005 1:37:07 PM |
AlliePaige All American 4510 Posts user info edit post |
if i see it in theaters it'll be at the 1.50 one or i'll just wait for it to come out on dvd. 10/17/2005 1:43:10 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
^^ because it's by far the best movie out now, and one of the best movies out this year. 10/17/2005 1:45:17 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How good would it be for someone who has never seen (or heard of) Firefly?" |
i had never seen it (heard of it) and it was awesome10/17/2005 1:46:13 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "because it's by far the best movie out now, and one of the best movies out this year." | was it not one of the best and most innovative series on tv when it came out?
i'm telling you its a losing battle10/17/2005 1:48:52 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
so wtf happened to it?
i mean it was on sci-fi for christ's sake. shows dont get cancelled on sci-fi 10/17/2005 1:50:39 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
it was on fox
i'm pretty sure sci-fi just ran it to capitalize on you folks gearing up for the flick 10/17/2005 1:59:14 PM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
Saw it, didn't really like it.
I don't really like Sci-Fi but I went with a friend and people had said that it was good. I thought the first hour or so was kindof pointless and I started looking for other things to do.
I wouldn't call it a bad movie by any means, just not that great. 10/17/2005 2:14:07 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ The fact that it was originally aired out of order and during a competitive time slot had something to do with it. 10/17/2005 2:15:09 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
I've never see FireFly and I saw Serenity last Monday for free.
And I wish I'd done something else with that 2 hrs of my life. It was fairly amusing, but by no means great. 10/17/2005 2:15:26 PM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
^ glad to see I wasn't the only one. 10/17/2005 2:16:01 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
^^
^
http://imdb.com/title/tt0379786/
http://movies.go.com/movies/movie?name=serenity_2005&genre=scifi&studio=Universal%20Pictures
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/grades/?page=usergrades&p=.htm
Seems like you are in the minority though
[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 2:21 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2005 2:20:51 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
i never watched the show. i barely even remember it coming on. but i saw a trailer for the movie and i thought it looked good, so i got the tv series through netflix and loved it. the movie was even better. i took a friend that had never seen the show and he loved it too. i definitely recommend it, and i hope its box office total is enough to convince them to, if nothing else, make a sequel. 10/17/2005 2:44:14 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
^^http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=serenity.htm looks like you're the one in the minority chief 10/17/2005 2:47:43 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
Ok smartass, look at the reader reviews. The vast majority of people who saw it loved it. That's my point, if you saw it and didn't love it you're in the minority. It's a good movie that the vast majority of those who see, love (even if they never saw the series. )It has a higher review rating than star wars on that site, and averages up there with citizen kane on IMDB.com
How am I in the minority then? By seeing the movie? Even major blockbusters that gross over 200 million aren't seen by a majority of americans.
[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 2:56 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2005 2:53:12 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and averages up there with citizen kane on IMDB.com" |
because the IMDB ratings system is completely scientific
OMG JOSS WHEDON IS MY MASTER10/17/2005 3:04:55 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
Who said scientific?
The vast majority of the reader reviews on all the sites are extremely positive.
The vast majority of critic reviews are extremely positive.
Just because they're not scientific surveys doesn't mean those facts don't support the argument that the vast majority of people who saw it loved it. Get your head out of your ass. 10/17/2005 3:08:59 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
I'd say the demographics for that website are skewed towards the dorks.
Neither myself or the two people that I saw the movie with were very impressed, and one of them had watched the show.
I'm not saying everyone else is wrong, but I wasn't impressed with the movie at all. I thought the trailers and teasers for the movie were horrible, and seeing the actual movie didn't do anything for me. 10/17/2005 3:18:32 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
ha
so explain to me how critics/fans loving the MOVIE that is failing at the box office is any different than critics/fans loving the SHOW that failed at the ratings box
thats the crux of my argument
people weren't willing to watch the FREE TV show, why would they GO TO A movie that COSTS SOMETHING
p.s., the domestic box office isn't even going to cover the production costs
from a business standpoint -- this was a waste of a movie 10/17/2005 3:19:22 PM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
^ extremely good point.
Although there have been good movies that "went nowhere", usually even the obscure movies that are really good do well in the end. (Like "Clerks" - indy film that spawned a number of major ones, "Sideways" did well too last year and got a number of awards.)
[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 3:28 PM. Reason : +] 10/17/2005 3:26:32 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Serenity the DVD will likely sell between 110-140% the numbers the Firefly dvds did
its a dedicated fanbase, to be sure, but nothing more 10/17/2005 3:31:19 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ kind of like how the first austin powers didn't make money till the dvd sales kicked in. if the movie sells half as many dvds as dvd sets of the series, then it'll make plenty of money.
I'm not arguing with you that it's not doing well, it's not, I'm just saying it deserves to do well because it's a good movie and most people who've seen it agree (critics included, among whom scifi usually doesn't fare so well.)
[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 3:37 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2005 3:31:55 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
marketing you chode-hole. It's not that people weren't willing to watch the show, its just that FOX fucked it completely up. The TV series was all jumbled by FOX and out of order. They only played 8 episodes out of 15, they were out of order b/c of some stupid exec thought that would be best, and those were marketed like dook.
It was the victim of terrible setup by a network with no patience to breed a great show.
Too late, the cult has already started -- you dont have to be a troll here. The movie was great, and has reached 28 mil worldwide in 3 weeks - for a failed show that is actually rather good. With DVD sales you'll see the total $ soar.
[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 3:34 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2005 3:32:33 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
serenity is grade A sci-fi 10/17/2005 3:32:40 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "has reached 28 mil worldwide in 3 weeks - for a failed show that is actually rather good" | you say that as if you have any other examples to base this on
it is niche programming, thats all it will ever be don't blame the network
Quote : | "It's not that people weren't willing to watch the show" |
so, if it isn't the programs fault, and this movie is an extension and better installment of the programming, explain why the movie based on the show couldn't even break 11 million opening weekend hell, The Fog did that
[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 3:47 PM. Reason : `]10/17/2005 3:46:07 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
Because most people don't know crap about it.
oh, and since it's been on scifi it's been hovering at about #4 compared to other shows, and it's in the worst timeslot of the top 4 shows. not bad for a cancelled shows that's only reruns.
[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 3:58 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2005 3:56:22 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
lots of reasons.
small movie budget no star power to draw audience not NEARLY the advertising budget of these other bloated shit films. # of theatres showing
However its a far superior movie and one of the best sci-fi movies ever. That's all the explanation you need. Now stop trolling. 10/17/2005 3:56:28 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "serenity is grade A sci-fi" |
I hear it had no production support or some such mess.10/17/2005 4:04:37 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
awesome movie. must see flick period.
doesn't matter if youre not a sci fi fan, go see this movie. 10/17/2005 8:00:47 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
FYI -- the entire 14 episode firefly series is on sale at amazon.com for 30$. Its currently #4 for DVD sales, which is pretty damn good.
If you like the movie you'll love the show. 10/17/2005 8:56:07 PM |
FeverRed All American 8499 Posts user info edit post |
I saw the movie and thought it was fucking awesome. Bad Chinese and all. I hadn't seen any of the series, but I plan on renting it from Netflix. 10/17/2005 9:33:05 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
DONT RENT, BUY! Or it will sink. 10/18/2005 9:18:54 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
I question wether or not the series is good enough to buy 10/18/2005 9:47:21 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not going to see it in theatres, but let me tell what I WILL do.
When it becomes available on thepiratebay.org, I WILL download it. 10/18/2005 9:58:42 PM |
logo Veteran 426 Posts user info edit post |
i enjoyed it...worth watching even if you haven't seen the series 10/19/2005 9:58:06 AM |
Jake_2m4 New Recruit 41 Posts user info edit post |
The first 9 minutes of the movie are free to watch online, so check it out if you aren't sure. I loved Serenity. My sister saw it without watching the series and she hates sci fi, yet she really liked the movie also.
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2681478?htv=12 10/19/2005 1:47:06 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
cmon Crede. Its worth like 6 bucks in the afternoon to check it out all day long -- don't be so cheap.
or rather, you go download it and if you want to see those characters ever again, go see it in the theatre and make a contribution 10/19/2005 5:53:28 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
SERENITY NOW
sorry, had to do it 10/19/2005 6:09:45 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
WOW.
Look its Kaylee..
10/20/2005 12:41:13 AM |
pablo_price All American 5628 Posts user info edit post |
she was prettier with the baby fat look 10/20/2005 12:55:33 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
fuck a joss whedon 10/20/2005 12:57:28 AM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Can't stop the signal. 10/20/2005 7:17:13 PM |