i was watchin sportscenter this morning and heard about this dude named Van de Velde who was gonna start playin on the LPGA tour to make a statement, since women can play in some PGA tournaments why cant men play on the LPGA??? i dont watch or care about pro golf but i think this is funny
maybe this guy will start winning some tournaments

10/28/2005 3:35:36 PM

ha ha ha ha

that's hilarious

I hope he wins too, just to prove the point.

10/28/2005 3:36:33 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=2205481

10/28/2005 3:39:02 PM

everyone should remember Van de Velde, he was the guy that blew like a 3 shot lead on the last hole at the British about 5 years ago

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10/28/2005 3:39:58 PM

What will be funny is when Annika Sorenstam and Paula Creamer beat his ass on national television.

10/28/2005 3:47:33 PM

does he get to drive off the red tees?

10/28/2005 3:48:38 PM

I think he should be allowed to. Women scream bloody murder about not being allowed on the men's (Pro, not mens, but yes, mens) tour, and now they try to keep out men from the womens tour.

Whatever dykes.

10/28/2005 4:01:44 PM

^^yup, he'll have to hit from the red tees

10/28/2005 4:04:08 PM

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"I think he should be allowed to. Women scream bloody murder about not being allowed on the men's (Pro, not mens, but yes, mens) tour, and now they try to keep out men from the womens tour. Whatever dykes."

but this kind of stuff is everywhere. Girls bitching about not being able to get in the boy scouts, girls bitching about not being able to play on boys varsity football, etc etc etc

10/28/2005 4:05:10 PM

Penis envy

10/28/2005 5:26:37 PM

Props to him.

Finally, a Frenchman that all American men can cheer for.

10/28/2005 5:27:57 PM

you guys are wrong. the lpga is womens way of admitting "we dont belong in the mens league so were just gonna make our own". this guy is a jackass for doing it and i hope michelle wie kicks his ass

10/28/2005 6:24:28 PM

Well, the problem is that unless you let the women hit off the women's tees, it is much harder for them to compete because their drives aren't as long in MOST cases, there are exceptions. But lets be perfectly honest here, golf isn't a sport so the bending the gender rules isn't as much of a deal... women can def. beat men in things like golf and autoracing, things that don't require strength or endurance (where men have an advantage)... and yes this guy is an idiot

10/28/2005 6:31:22 PM

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"golf isn't a sport "

Want to back that Up? My guess is you have tried it and suck ass. Or else are too macho for it.

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"women can def. beat men in things like golf and autoracing, things that don't require strength or endurance (where men have an advantage)"

You have never played a competitive round of golf then my friend. It is very grueling and very demanding and sometimes takes 6 hours. FYI, walking 18 holes is equal to walking 6 miles in most cases on top of hitting and strategy. Nascar drivers are going 200 MPH for about 5 hours so that also takes some endurance. Dont bash a sport just because you dont like it. Both require more mental toughness than hitting a baseball or shooting a basketball.

10/28/2005 6:44:47 PM

ouch

10/28/2005 9:17:33 PM

we can some this up easily... women, as a whole, will never be as good as men in any sport

there will be your occasional outliers, but overall, it aint gonna happen

10/28/2005 9:34:47 PM

Van de Velde will beat all of their asses if he really follows through with this...including Annika, Creamer, & Co.

10/28/2005 9:55:23 PM

no shit

10/28/2005 10:09:05 PM

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"women can def. beat men in things like golf and autoracing"

Yet it rarely ever happens.

10/28/2005 10:12:06 PM

fuckin a

10/28/2005 10:17:31 PM

[Edited on October 28, 2005 at 10:55 PM. Reason : asdf]

10/28/2005 10:54:13 PM

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"we can some this up easily... women, as a whole, will never be as good as men in any sport"

10/28/2005 10:56:45 PM

some?

10/28/2005 11:14:34 PM

He didnt say that he wanted to play on the LPGA tour, just that he wanted to play in the women's British Open b/c St. Andrews decided to allow women to play in the men's open. This shit is funny though.

10/28/2005 11:41:19 PM

I think it's awesome but he better win or he'll get bashed.

10/29/2005 10:08:20 AM

the french are pussies, women have pussies. i'd say they're evenly matched.

10/29/2005 2:03:47 PM

This is the stupidest reaction to the "integration" of women into the PGA by far.

First, this schmuck blew a three shot lead on the final hole of the British Open. Even with the crowd and the pressure of a British Open, Van de Velde became a household name for "goat" overnight. STFU and crawl back under the radar.

Secondly, the PGA split the PGA Tour from the LPGA tour so female golfers could get their own, albeit lesser spotlight (putting it mildly). If we have female golfers who can compete with the men, why not let 'em play. Why should they play for worse money on smaller stages against admitedly lesser competition?

10/30/2005 3:16:41 PM

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"Paula Creamer"

10/30/2005 3:37:13 PM

golf is not a sport

and yes I play it and am good at it.

it is as much of a sports as autoracing

and everyone knows those are not sports.

10/30/2005 3:41:40 PM

i got the point he is trying to make, but I don't agree with it. If you let men play on the women's tour it will just become the buy.com tour (with all men), or whatever it's called this year, on the other hand, since the men's stage is seen as THE stage, anyone should be able to qualify.

the women's tour is important to help progress female athletics, letting men play will stunt that progress

10/30/2005 3:41:44 PM

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"I hope he wins too"

10/30/2005 3:42:15 PM

Havent seen a bigger choke job since Anabolic Initiations 8

10/30/2005 11:43:53 PM

Golf isn't a sport, it is a game

10/30/2005 11:55:31 PM

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"Why should they play for worse money on smaller stages against admitedly lesser competition?"

in thoery....he will be driving most of the par 4's, on EVERY par 5 in two, and will have wedges into most of the par 3's...he SHOULD dominate and SHOULD be able to win every tournament he is in...so he should win alot more money than he would win the on PGA tour....

oh..and golf is s sport

oh......and this dude fell apart in the British Open like no person has ever fallen apart before

10/31/2005 12:12:18 AM

this man is still playing golf? after the British collapse I'm surprised he's still alive.

10/31/2005 12:15:20 AM

he would destroy any woman opponent

10/31/2005 1:09:17 AM

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"women can def. beat men in things like golf and autoracing, things that don't require strength or endurance (where men have an advantage)... "

yea sometimes I wonder if it's a fucking mental thing

don't women have their own fucking league for pool even?

10/31/2005 1:39:04 AM

hand-eye coordination

men are usually better at it

10/31/2005 1:52:48 AM

golf is not a sport, its a way of life

10/31/2005 8:18:36 AM

it is mental. women arent as competitive

10/31/2005 8:35:55 AM

this dude should be able to reach greens on par 4's if he's hittin from the reds

10/31/2005 10:19:58 AM

I'd guess, since I've never played in nor been to an LPGA event, that the women probably play from tees equivalent to about the whites at most courses we know of. Maybe even the blues, compared to playing the blacks on a course with them.

Golf is a game, not a sport. Does it require fitness, yeah. But so does figure skating (an event).

10/31/2005 6:24:03 PM

My thing with this is, how far can they take this? Consider this: The Champions Tour (formerly the Senior PGA Tour) is for players 55 and older. Golfers who play on the Champions Tour can qualify for PGA events, but of course a 30 yr. old PGA pro can't qualify for a Champions Tour Event. Or consider this. The AJGA, the American Junior Golf Association. I think it's still 17 and under, maybe 18 and under now. Anybody over this age limit can't qualify for an AJGA event, but AJGA golfers can qualify for a PGA event if they are good enough. Of course the AJGA is not professional so PGA pros wouldn't be able to justify an argument saying that they should be able to qualify for the AJGA, but as far as the Champions Tour goes, they could justify that just as well as justifying playing in an LPGA event, although I can assure you this will never happen. So why is Van De Velde taking an irrational stance on this? Because the PGA Tour is the pinnacle of professional golf. There are other professional tours that separate people into categories: age, gender, etc., but the PGA Tour is supposed to be the best golfers in the world, so if a woman can qualify for a PGA Tournament she is obviously one of the best players in the world. I don't think he's thought this through, and there are some flaws in his argument.

10/31/2005 8:27:52 PM

^ well put

10/31/2005 9:29:33 PM