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"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Moving quickly to pick a Supreme Court nominee after his last selection withdrew her name, President Bush on Monday nominated Circuit Court Judge Samuel Alito -- a favorite of conservatives -- to replace Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. "Judge Alito's reputation has only grown over the span of his service," Bush said from the White House, with Alito by his side. "He has participated in thousands of appeals and authored hundreds of opinions. This record reveals a thoughtful judge who considers the legal merits carefully and applies the law in a principled fashion." Alito, a former U.S. attorney who has been a judge for 15 years, said while on the bench he has kept in mind what he called a "solemn responsibility.""

I don't really know much about this guy yet. I imagine by the time the day is done, we will all know a lot.

10/31/2005 10:54:02 AM

Another Roman Catholic I heard. I wonder why practically every supposed "conservative" on the Supreme Court is a Catholic...including Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and now this guy?

10/31/2005 11:02:53 AM

what does bein a catholic have anythin to do with this?

10/31/2005 11:11:51 AM

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Well, I think its now an understatement to say that Bush will leave a lasting legacy, be it good or bad.

So he's a favorite of Conservatives, but might he end up getting "Borked" over some issues?

10/31/2005 11:22:58 AM

no not a chance. bork was borked by a democrat controlled senate

10/31/2005 11:24:20 AM

well, i guess hes not so conservative that moderates would question him.

From CNN.com:

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"Among his noteworthy opinions was his lone dissent in the 1991 case of Planned Parenthood v. Casey, in which the 3rd Circuit struck down a Pennsylvania law that included a provision requiring women seeking abortions to notify their spouses. "The Pennsylvania legislature could have rationally believed that some married women are initially inclined to obtain an abortion without their husbands' knowledge because of perceived problems -- such as economic constraints, future plans, or the husbands' previously expressed opposition -- that may be obviated by discussion prior to the abortion," Alito wrote."

10/31/2005 11:26:59 AM

Well I mean it is kind of fucked up for a married woman to go get an abortion without telling her husband...

I don't know if there should be a law against it, but if you are married and having an abortion without telling your husband...maybe you should rethink being married in the first place.

10/31/2005 11:35:26 AM

or maybe you should let women make their own decisions. (^okay i misread you before, i basically agree with that)

also i think (as I guessed before) that Bush nominated harriet miers just so that when she inevitably wasn't confirmed, he could nominate another white man without as much uproar.

[Edited on October 31, 2005 at 12:38 PM. Reason : also]

[Edited on October 31, 2005 at 12:39 PM. Reason : ()]

10/31/2005 12:37:18 PM

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"Clarence Thomas to be joined by man after his own heart. In Doe v. Groody, Alito agued that police officers had not violated constitutional rights when they strip searched a mother and her ten-year-old daughter while carrying out a search warrant that authorized only the search of a man and his home. [Doe v. Groody, 2004]"

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/3rd/024532p.pdf

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"I don't know if there should be a law against it, but if you are married and having an abortion without telling your husband...maybe you should rethink being married in the first place."

exactly. it's his child too. I don't know that there should be a law, but it does seem mighty disrespectful to abort your husband's child without consulting him

[Edited on October 31, 2005 at 12:38 PM. Reason : .]

10/31/2005 12:37:28 PM

*braces for the Senate bloodbath...*

10/31/2005 12:42:53 PM

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"it's his child too"

probably not though

10/31/2005 12:44:29 PM

aha

EXACTLY what I was thinking

10/31/2005 1:49:24 PM

heh I wasn't thinking about it like that...

10/31/2005 1:56:11 PM

What if the husband and wife are seperated, or the husband raped his wife, or the husband is abusive?

There are many reasons why the husband should not be notified about an abortion.

10/31/2005 1:59:00 PM

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"Well I mean it is kind of fucked up for a married woman to go get an abortion without telling her husband..."

It sure pissed off Al Pacino in The Godfather.

10/31/2005 2:03:54 PM

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"What if the husband and wife are seperated, or the husband raped his wife, or the husband is abusive? There are many reasons why the husband should not be notified about an abortion. "

I think it's obvious I wouldn't say she should ask permission from a rapist or an abusive man.

Personally, I think that if a man and a woman conceive a child under friendly circumstances (non abusive or not a rape), it's generally a matter of respect that the woman would at least tell the man she was getting an abortion, and I'd say she should even ask him about it. I'm not saying she should only do what he says, but getting his opinion and weighing her decision with that in mind seems like the right thing to do.

then again, part of the reason I'm pro-choice is that I don't think that a man has the right to decide FOR HER. I don't think that he has no say, but I think that ultimately, it's her decision. it certainly isn't a matter for the law to decide.

10/31/2005 2:43:01 PM

^^ Notification does not equate to control over. If he is abusive then the restraining order still counts.

10/31/2005 2:46:22 PM

^^^
Part Two.

10/31/2005 3:24:20 PM

good luck trying to stop this one, libbies

10/31/2005 3:38:39 PM

i sure home he doesnt get myiered


AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

i kill me. everyone gets a verb.

10/31/2005 3:47:17 PM

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"^^ Notification does not equate to control over. If he is abusive then the restraining order still counts."

Didn't the SC decide last year that the government has no obligation to enforce restraining orders?

10/31/2005 3:55:43 PM

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"Part Two. "

Ah dammit. I was worried about that.

10/31/2005 3:56:34 PM

1. fillibuster
2. nuclear
3. incumbants look bad
4. ...
5. profit for democrats

10/31/2005 4:16:27 PM

EVERYONE DESERVES AN UP OR DOWN VOTE


too bad that line cant be used any more

10/31/2005 4:21:48 PM

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"1. fillibuster 2. nuclear 3. incumbants look bad 4. ... 5. profit for democrats"

Really, the situation is so bad for Republicans right now, could a big fight over Alito make it any worse? Besides, it might fire up an already disillusioned right-wing base and thus provide them some sort of boost in 2006. (They've pretty much lost the moderates at this point...)

10/31/2005 4:59:00 PM

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/31/samuel-alitos-america/

I think his strip-search decision is a well-justified concern. Others don't seem as bad.

10/31/2005 5:26:48 PM

^^ Really? I think the moderates are going to vote republican in droves in 2008 because, believe it or not, Bush will not be on the ticket.

10/31/2005 6:44:02 PM

especially if hillary is the frontrunner

10/31/2005 6:50:39 PM

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"EVERYONE DESERVES AN UP OR DOWN VOTE"

haha

also could say NOT THE TIME YET TO TALK ABOUT RELIGION OR POLICIES

10/31/2005 7:02:59 PM

NO LITMUS TEST

("you sure, you're against abortion?")

11/1/2005 12:43:53 AM

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"NO LITMUS TEST"

like we need to even pretend we took that shit serious

11/1/2005 1:00:29 AM

no way in fuck dems are dumb enough to nominate hillary.

11/1/2005 1:25:05 AM

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"Sandra is a JILF"

11/1/2005 1:37:14 AM

There are more important issues than abortion, eminent domain for example.

Quit getting hung up about it.

11/1/2005 9:59:54 AM

eminent domain isn't important to anyone but paranoid anarchists

Abortion is important to anyone who has sex.

11/1/2005 11:32:40 AM

Really? Strange. It would strike me that abortion is only important to people that want/would have one.

On the otherhand, eminent domain is important to anyone that owns property. Some people do find having an abortion inconceivable, but I must ask how many people find owning property inconceivable?

11/1/2005 1:32:58 PM

Eminent domain was decided LAST YEAR.

I highly doubt any ED cases will be accepted for several years to come.

11/1/2005 3:15:36 PM

I own property and ED is on my "things to worry about list" right below "zombie attack" and right above "being raped by a Yeti"

I could see myself being in a situation were my seed may need to be aborted, I don't ever see the eminent domain boogeyman coming to get me.

11/1/2005 3:37:38 PM

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" It would strike me that abortion is only important to people that want/would have one."

excuse me, but WTF did you just say? You're saying that abortion is not an important issue to pro-life conservatives?

11/2/2005 12:28:36 AM

http://www.overspun.com/video/DailyShow.DoubleVision.wmv

hilarious daily show clip about the attention span of hte media

11/2/2005 10:45:40 AM

http://poll.gallup.com/content/?ci=19567

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"If it becomes clear Alito would vote to reverse Roe v. Wade, Americans would not want the Senate to confirm him, by 53% to 37%."

What isn't clear is whether or not that would matter.

11/2/2005 3:54:23 PM

Of course it doesn't matter. W. was placed into office by 51% of the voters. Hell, that was practically a mandate from God Himself. G.W. and Friends can do whatever they please. The people have spoken in 2004. In 2005 they are supposed to sit down and shut up.

11/3/2005 9:35:47 AM

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1154AP_Alito_Privacy.html

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"In college, Samuel Alito led a student conference that urged legalization of sodomy and curbs on domestic intelligence, a sweeping defense of privacy rights he said were under threat by the government and the dawning computer age. President Bush's choice for the Supreme Court, in a report written years before ubiquitous personal computers made electronic privacy the everyday concern it is now, warned of the potential for abuses by officials and companies collecting data on individuals."

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Alito-Third-Circuit.html

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"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Judges who have served with Samuel Alito say he's unquestionably a conservative who would push the Supreme Court to the right, likely favoring new abortion restrictions that retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor would not. Five current or former judges on the Philadelphia-based 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals interviewed by The Associated Press described Alito as thoughtful, intelligent and fair. They said he has great respect for precedent-setting decisions and none of them offered that he would be likely to vote to overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion."

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"''But in tens of thousands of cases that came before us, he faithfully showed a deference and deep respect for precedent,'' Lewis said. ''From private caucus meetings and on the bench, I know he is an intellectually honest man and doesn't have personal predilections to foist upon the American people.''"

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"''He's very sympathetic to First Amendment rights,'' Becker said."

11/3/2005 9:59:47 AM

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"or maybe you should let women make their own decisions."

Or maybe you should realize that there is more to the issue of abortion than just a woman and her body? naaaaaaah, crazy idea.

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"What if the husband and wife are seperated, or the husband raped his wife, or the husband is abusive?"

what if we throw out crazy conjecture and radical extreme cases?

Husband and wife separated? it depends. Who is the father? The husband? If so, he should have a say, if not, then I don't see the two as being "married," and its of no concern to the "husband."

Raped? Well, clearly there is a deeper problem at hand.
Abusive? Well, clearly there is a deeper problem at hand.

11/3/2005 10:08:16 AM

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"naaaaaaah, crazy idea."

Indeed.

11/3/2005 10:15:14 AM

not to derail the thread, but do you claim that the woman is the only one involved in an abortion? I mean, are you trying to say that the father doesn't exist? Just curious

11/3/2005 10:16:30 AM

Father exists but should not have any say when it comes to the issue of abortion. It's a good idea to ask him, but the woman should not be forced to.

11/3/2005 10:18:20 AM

aight, just so long as you understand that he exists. However, I think there is a massive difference between asking a woman to notify the father that she is having an abortion and forcing the woman to go along w/ the man's will. But thats just my 2 cents

11/3/2005 10:21:07 AM

Except the problem with conservative judicial activists who think shit must not be written in the search warrant to be considered written in the search warrant is that who know what they will imply from that. Someone will apply "common sense" and infer that the law wouldn't have been in place had it not been the intention of the lawmakers to make the opinion of the father have practical implications.

11/3/2005 10:26:35 AM

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"Eminent domain was decided LAST YEAR."

And Roe v Wade was decided in 1973, but we still fret over it.

I am encouraged by seeing some liberty-leaning tendencies from Sam the Man....

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"Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison said Judge Alito had impressed her by discussing the enlightenment thinker John Locke in answering a question about eminent domain and private property rights. "He went back to the life, liberty and property that was the original John Locke phrase" that contributed to the founders' discussion of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," Ms. Hutchison said. "I thought that he was basically saying that private property rights were very important in the writing of the Constitution and remain so today.""

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"The Boston Globe reported Wednesday that as a student at Princeton the judge (Alito) had written a paper arguing that prohibitions against sodomy should be overturned and "discrimination against homosexuals in hiring should be forbidden." The same paper, on "the boundaries of privacy in American society," argued for greater restrictions on government searches and surveillance and also recommended the creation of a federal privacy "ombudsman," according to a copy obtained from a Princeton library. "

The left may have to concede defeat on this one. The GOP worked very hard over the past 20 years or so to get to this place. The spoils of political war allow them to put their version of Ginsberg on the court. Let's hope he supports individual freedom, and limited government.

11/3/2005 10:36:58 AM