Since stats are all that seem to matter to most of you on here, he should win with no contest. His stats are insane. He threw for like 6tds and over 600 yds in one game. I really dont see, based on his STATS, how he could lose. Unless...there is more to being a great QB and player other than stats. hmmmmm

11/3/2005 3:24:00 PM

you're crazy, to win the heisman he'd need about a quarter of his TD passes, 5 times the turnovers, and 3 or 4 extra rushing TD's

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 3:27 PM. Reason : ]

11/3/2005 3:26:33 PM

TT always has steller #'s for their qb's

11/3/2005 3:31:17 PM

good qb

not heisman though

11/3/2005 3:35:03 PM

He has to be the #1 QB in the nation since his stats are SO good. Because Vick is not a great QB because his stats are bad. So this guy has got to be some sort of QB god.

11/3/2005 3:39:04 PM

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"TT always has steller #'s for their qb's"

exactly. remember kliff kingsbury and bj symons?

they didnt get close to the heisman

11/3/2005 4:12:48 PM

gimmick system

11/3/2005 4:20:16 PM

oh god I'm having flashbacks of MyNizzle

11/3/2005 4:26:49 PM

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"The moment you started talking about heisman should be winners, we just skipped right over your posts. Stick to putting your cock between your legs MacGyver. "

As i posted in your other thread

11/3/2005 4:30:34 PM

No, let's give it to Jason White, no talent QB on a great team, yeah, he REALLY deserved it.

11/3/2005 4:41:02 PM

My point is, everyone on here says the best QBs have the best stats. Well TTs QB has the best stats, so he must be the best QB in college football.

11/3/2005 4:44:23 PM

Or maybe TT just passes all the time.

11/3/2005 4:45:39 PM

no it's the person with the best stats/mvp of the best team. which is precisely why you think vickis better.... because he's the best player on the better team. Start analyzing your analogies correctly before you use them.

PS that's why jason white got the heismen

11/3/2005 4:46:34 PM

you guys are argueing with a guy that tucks his dick, i mean come the fuck on

11/3/2005 4:48:12 PM

;kl,m

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 4:55 PM. Reason : 69*995926262]

11/3/2005 4:49:56 PM

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"oh god I'm having flashbacks of MyNizzle"

Yeah Joel, that's cuz it's him.

Unfortunately.

11/3/2005 4:54:43 PM

you ever look at how many times the guys from texas tech throw? it's not uncommon for those guys to throw 60 times a game.

11/3/2005 5:09:56 PM

But his STATS are amazing. And that seems to be all that anyone cares about on here when judging how good a player is. See how frustrating it is. All logic seems to go out the window when you try to argue with idiots on here that hate Vick.

11/3/2005 5:13:17 PM

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"All logic seems to go out the window when you try to argue with idiots on here that hate Vick. tuck your cock between your legs "

11/3/2005 5:17:17 PM

Wow, is that all you can come back with when I prove you wrong? haha, you act like I am ashamed of that pic, I am the one who took it and posted it. Please try harder next time

11/3/2005 5:18:08 PM

aahahahahhahahahahaha

proved me wrong, wtf

hahahahahhahahahahaha

11/3/2005 5:19:04 PM

So, are you trying to argue that Marcus is a Heisman contender? Other than his occasional big-time rushing games , he really isn't that spectacular. Awesome defense and special teams make him look better than he is.

11/3/2005 5:41:19 PM

He is 290 for 425 on attempts, throwing for 69%, with 27 TDs and 8 interceptions. I dont give a shit how many times they throw, thats sick. He averages 428.2 yards a game. SICK

11/3/2005 6:41:06 PM

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" I dont give a shit how many times they throw, thats sick. He averages 428.2 yards a game."

you, sir, are a moron

11/3/2005 6:58:32 PM

Just like Phil was, right?

11/3/2005 7:04:07 PM

Guys, I know the guy doesn't deserve to win the Heisman. The ENTIRE point of this thread was to show that stats for QBs don't mean that much and can be misleading. People say Vick isnt a great QB because he doesnt have the stats to back it up. So I threw out a guy, the Texas Tech QB with great stats, but is obviously not a great QB.

11/3/2005 8:46:09 PM

Wow, you're an idiot.

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" Sept. 10, 2005 Florida Int'l W 56-3 1-0 Sept. 17, 2005 Sam Houston St. W 80-21 2-0 Sept. 24, 2005 Indiana St. W 63-7 3-0 Oct. 1, 2005 Kansas W 30-17 4-0 (1-0) Oct. 8, 2005 at Nebraska (TBS) W 34-31 5-0 (2-0) Oct. 15, 2005 Kansas State (ABC) W 59-20 6-0 (3-0) Oct. 22, 2005 at Texas L 52-17 6-1 (3-1) Oct. 29, 2005 at Baylor W 28-0 "

Even Vick could put up good stats against that competition.

11/3/2005 10:30:56 PM

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"Other than his occasional big-time rushing games , he really isn't that spectacular."

I don't like Marcus, and I'm pretty sure he'd be in jail if he wasn't (1) the VT QB, and (2) Mike's brother.

But face it, the guy's a damn good QB.

Rather than bashing his abilities, I just bash his character, and hope that either someone beats them or USC & Texas both go undefeated.

11/3/2005 10:41:55 PM

^he will be better than his brother. he has shown the ability to actually throw the ball.

11/3/2005 11:27:43 PM

And we all know you can ONLY be a great QB if you can throw it well

11/3/2005 11:51:27 PM

yeah you're right, you can ONLY be a GREAT qb if you throw it well. if you can't throw it well, no matter what else you do, you aren't a GREAT qb. you can still be good, but certainly not great.

11/4/2005 12:09:07 AM

So do tell me, whats the difference in scrambling and running for 20 yards or throwing a pass for 20 yards? In the end, you still gain 20 yards, who cares how you get it.

11/4/2005 12:26:06 AM

Going by stats, Daniel Evans should start at QB for us. He had RIDICULOUS numbers in High School. He may should anyway.

11/4/2005 12:29:47 AM

you're using the same stat argument mac ... you're just saying that W is the only stat that you think is important.


you're saying you agree jason white was the best player in college football because he won the most etc.

11/4/2005 1:16:07 AM

^

HE TUCKS HIS COCK FOR FUCKS SAKE

OF COURSE HE LIKES A TUCK AND RUN QB

LEAVE HIM BE

[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 2:19 AM. Reason : . lol]

11/4/2005 2:19:34 AM

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"So do tell me, whats the difference in scrambling and running for 20 yards or throwing a pass for 20 yards? In the end, you still gain 20 yards, who cares how you get it. "

11/4/2005 2:36:25 AM

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"So do tell me, whats the difference in scrambling and running for 20 yards or throwing a pass for 20 yards? In the end, you still gain 20 yards, who cares how you get it."

if it were an even tradeoff like that, i wouldn't care. if vick was averaging 250+ rushing yards and 2+ rushing TD's a game from the QB position, then sure i'd say he was a great quarterback, although i'd still wonder why he wasn't just a RB instead

11/4/2005 2:49:51 AM

There is a pick of Macgoober with his dick tucked between his legs (like androgenous fags do?).

AND PEOPLE HERE STILL TAKE THIS GUY SERIOUSLY?

11/4/2005 3:35:21 AM

hahahahahhaahahahhahah

so MacGyver was also MyNizzle???

hahahhahah I should've known

11/4/2005 4:23:27 AM

It fits. Think about it.

His "proof" for being right is by saying "you're wrong." He mindlessly bashes things. He's angry for the sake of being angry. He excessivley uses the rolly eyes face.

There's no other way to see it, I don't think.

11/4/2005 8:09:21 AM

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"He excessivley uses the rolly eyes face."

11/4/2005 3:37:26 PM

11/4/2005 3:42:03 PM

PEYTON MANNING FOR HEISMAN!!!!

11/4/2005 10:49:30 PM

He plays in the pros now, not college

11/4/2005 11:54:02 PM

Ernie, what are u talking about?

11/5/2005 10:54:47 PM

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"No, let's give it to Jason White, no talent QB on a great team, yeah, he REALLY deserved it. "

Yeah... because 41 touchdowns with like 5 INT's is really easy to do

He wasn't the best... but he was damn good

11/5/2005 11:01:52 PM