i'm looking for four or six piston calipers with 14-14.5" slotted or cross drilled rotors for the front and just rotor and pad upgrades for the rear. all this has to fit inside 16" wheels, because i dont want to buy new ones, but the stock brakes just aint cutting it with 35's. i already put stainless braid lines on, and dot 5 fluid, that helped a lot with the sponginess, but i warp stock rotors in less then 5k miles, and wear out pads every 12k or so, not to mention that is takes forever to stop in a panic situation, such as a mexican with no insurance pulling out in front of you. my searches have proved fruitless, anybody know of any kits that use the stock spindles, just have updated brackets and calipers that will fit in a 16" wheel? the stock single piston calipers have less than .125 clearance, so it kind worries me about an aftermarket one being to large.

11/3/2005 11:32:11 PM

i think stillen makes a kit

11/3/2005 11:37:58 PM

I doubt you will be able to find a ig brake kit and still run stock wheels.

11/4/2005 12:58:47 AM

hell 11" front rotors with the caliper stacked on wont even fit under most 16" wheels much less something 3-3.5" bigger...

11/4/2005 7:30:07 AM

Grind the calipers down to fit the wheels.

11/4/2005 9:06:15 AM

they arent stock wheels, they are 16x10 steelies, which are a little thinner than the stock aluminum 16" wheels, but still, if a have to get new rims, i will probably get aluminum 17's which will mean i'll be broke for another few months, along with new tires, so i dont want to open that can of worms, i just want to be able to stop

[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 10:54 AM. Reason : the stillen kits were too large]

11/4/2005 10:45:01 AM

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"i'm looking for four or six piston calipers with 14-14.5" slotted or cross drilled rotors for the front and just rotor and pad upgrades for the rear. all this has to fit inside 16" wheels,"

LOL

Sorry man, but that shit ain't happening. Just not enough clearance.

11/4/2005 11:50:10 AM

i was measuring it, and with 14" rotors, that leaves 1.125" clearance for a caliper with a thin backbone. thats why i was asking if anyone had come across anything like that

11/4/2005 11:57:49 AM

You shouldn't need that big of brakes just to stop 35s. On my trooper it was no problem with 11" rotors and arounf 4-4.5in^2 pistons. Now I have no problems w/ 38.5s wit 13"? rotor and single piston w/ less than 9in^2 of surface area.

Don't forget you will need a bigger MC for bigger pistons.

11/4/2005 12:54:57 PM

http://www.scirocco.org/faq/brakes/pulpfriction/pfpage3.html

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"So, when thinking about that big six-piston caliper conversion keep in mind that the size and number of caliper pistons on your car were originally matched to the brake pedal and master cylinder to generate an appropriate clamp load for a given brake pedal input force. Changing any one of the components will shift the balance one way (increased pressure required) or the other (higher pedal forces required) to generate the same clamp load. Remember: Bigger calipers don't create any more "stopping power" and they do not "decrease stopping distance"--they just generate higher clamp loads for a given pressure input."

yeah bigger pistons with the same hydraulic system will make your pedal feel more spongy actually. It will however increase the amount of force applied to stop the car given the same amount of pressure on the brake pedal. Bigger rotors are going to help fade but not improve stopping distances necessarily.

Tires have a significant effect on stopping distances. Maybe you should improve those first.

I'm sure you can improve your stopping distances, but remember that this is a big truck so you can only go so far without replacing just about everything.

11/4/2005 1:10:27 PM

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"and dot 5 fluid"

that's silicone. you shouldn't be using that in a street driven vehicle, unless you change it out FREQUENTLY, like everyday.

it doesn't play with water very well.

11/4/2005 1:20:29 PM

^^ Well bigger rotors, with all other factors being the same, will improve stopping distances. This is due to the increased leverage created by moving the caliper further away from the hub.

Now obviously if its the tire/pads/etc that are the limiting factor before an upgrade then larger rotors won't help.

11/4/2005 2:16:25 PM

SSBC has numerous kits for your truck, from upgraded calipers for use with stock discs/wheels up to a complete upgrade kit

plus, its SSBC......

11/4/2005 4:06:57 PM

^are you really going to spend a 1/10 of the trucks value to upgrade the brakes?

11/4/2005 9:09:55 PM

the majority of sscb's stuff is stock parts your can piece together from the parts store on your own for 1/4 of the cost.

11/4/2005 9:11:41 PM