Arguing with a friend. Maybe thetwolfweb can settle this. Does Sin City count as Film-Noir?

11/19/2005 1:16:28 PM

Yes, dumbass

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"Recent works of popular fiction in a noir vein include the 2005 movie Sin City"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_noir

11/19/2005 1:34:37 PM

being in a 'noir vein' doesn't mean that its film-noir

dumbass

11/19/2005 2:13:48 PM

no, i think it's more like neo-noir, kinda like seven

11/19/2005 2:14:51 PM

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"Characteristics [edit] Visual style Noir films, traditionally black and white, tended to include dramatic shadows and stark contrast—using low-key lighting and monochrome film, typically resulting in a 10:1 ratio of dark to light, rather than the more typical 3:1 ratio. A number of noir films were shot on location in cities, and night-for-night shooting was common. Also common to be seen in any noir film are shadows of venetian blinds. (see photo above) These are dramatically cast upon an actor's face as he looks out a window. This is one of the many iconic visuals in noir. Noir is also known for its use of dutch angles, low-angle shots, and wide angle lenses. Other devices of disorientation common in film noir include shots of people in mirrors or multiple mirrors, shots through a glass (such as during the strangulation scene in Strangers on a Train), and multiple exposures. [edit] Setting Film noir tends to revolve around flawed and desperate characters in an unforgiving world. Crime, usually murder, is an element of all films noir, often sparked by jealousy, corruption, or greed. Most films noir contain certain archetypal characters (such as hardboiled detectives, femmes fatales, corrupt policemen, jealous husbands, insurance agents, or down-and-out writers), familiar locations (downtown Los Angeles, New York, or San Francisco), and archetypal storylines (heist films, detective stories, court films, and films about rigged boxing games). [edit] Morality The morals of film noir tend not to be simple black/white decisions, in line with the aforementioned existential influence. Often, characters may adhere to an absolute moral goal, but are more than willing to let the "ends justify the means" in order to obtain this goal. For example, in The Stranger, the investigator is so obsessed with tracking down a Nazi war criminal that he places other people in mortal danger to track him down. [edit] Outlook Film noir is at its core pessimistic. The stories it tells are of people trapped in a situation they did not want, often a situation they did not create, striving against random uncaring fate, and usually doomed. Almost all film noir plots involve the hard-boiled, disillusioned male and the dangerous femme fatale."

4/4


dumbass

11/19/2005 2:32:00 PM

it's not from that period, but fits that style.

11/19/2005 2:34:48 PM

^^gatsby, calm down...

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"Sin City could arguably be considered a true film noir, as it has all of the elements of a film noir (i.e. filmed in black and white, low key lighting). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-noir"

ok, that pretty much does it for me. </thread>

11/19/2005 3:08:48 PM

i'm pumping well over a liter of scotch in my veins and you're telling me to calm down?

11/19/2005 3:09:54 PM

Evidently J_Gatsby is so much more intelligent than everyone else.

11/19/2005 4:25:38 PM

EVIDENTLY

11/19/2005 4:27:52 PM

single malt?

11/19/2005 4:32:59 PM

Phil you could have just IMed me instead of making a thread.

11/19/2005 5:03:20 PM

and just so you know, film noir is not considered a "genre"...
I got counted off on my intro to film elective class test, for putting that answer choice...

11/19/2005 9:15:26 PM

i wonder if J_Gatsby ends all of his posts with "dumbass"

11/19/2005 10:05:20 PM

other examples of film noir please???? need something to watch tonight

11/19/2005 10:17:12 PM

On the Waterfront?

11/19/2005 10:19:48 PM

Out of the Past
The Asphalt Jungle
Murder, My Sweet
Deadly Is the Female
The Set-Up

11/19/2005 10:19:51 PM

if you want to be technical, Sin City would be called "neo-noir" and could be grouped with such films as "The Man Who Wasn't There."

11/19/2005 10:37:15 PM

YOU'RE ON A ROLL WITH THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE

11/19/2005 10:50:04 PM

the maltese falcon

11/19/2005 10:58:01 PM

The Big Heat

11/20/2005 12:42:01 AM

I don't know how anyone can have a discussion on noir without mentioning "Double Indemnity" or "The Big Sleep."

11/20/2005 2:13:02 AM

is that a challenge?

11/20/2005 2:49:56 AM