Saddam and Al-Qaeda.

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"Key Bush Intelligence Briefing Kept From Hill Panel by Murray Waas, special to National Journal Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2005 at 4:14 PM The Senate Intelligence Committee has asked the White House for the CIA assessment, the PDB of September 21, 2001, and dozens of other PDBs as part of the committee's ongoing investigation into whether the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence information in the run-up to war with Iraq. The Bush administration has refused to turn over these documents. Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter. The information was provided to Bush on September 21, 2001 during the "President's Daily Brief," a 30- to 45-minute early-morning national security briefing. Information for PDBs has routinely been derived from electronic intercepts, human agents, and reports from foreign intelligence services, as well as more mundane sources such as news reports and public statements by foreign leaders. "

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/11/1722364.php

SMOKING GUN, MOTHERFUCKERS!

HE LIED, KNEW HE WAS LYING AND THOUSANDS ARE DEAD AND CRIPPLED BECAUSE OF THIS INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINAL!!!

11/23/2005 9:23:49 AM

yeah but didn't we invade because he had WMDs? And it was his burden to prove that he didn't?

or was it because he gassed his own people?

or wasn't it because Saddam was a bad man who ruled with tyranny and oppression?

actaully i recall it know. freedom was on the march.

11/23/2005 9:39:24 AM

That's just conspiracy theory talk. Everyone knows that Saddam and Osama were in it together. We're gonna find those WMDs too.

11/23/2005 9:40:28 AM

why don't you just start a "pryderi's perpetual proof bush was lying" thread?

11/23/2005 9:40:43 AM

I'm sure Bush was told a lot of things.

11/23/2005 9:41:27 AM

"You can't distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror," President Bush said on September 25, 2002.

11/23/2005 9:43:29 AM

This is so funny lacerates are falling down my cheeks

11/23/2005 9:44:23 AM

11/23/2005 9:56:33 AM

FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH

UNFORTUNATELY IT ONLY GOES WHERE THERE IS OIL

11/23/2005 10:05:22 AM

I was more thinking down the lines of:

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"An Inauspicious Start at School in Andover Bush did not get off to an auspicious start when he arrived as at Phillips Academy in Andover, Mass., as a sophomore or "lower middler" in the school's vernacular. His first English grade – for an essay on emotions – was zero. "As I remember, the impression of the red marker was so intense that it stuck out of the back side of the blue book," recalls Bush. With the help of a thesaurus his mother had given him, Bush had erroneously written about "lacerates" running down his cheek – instead of tears."

What a tool.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072799.htm

[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 10:07 AM. Reason : ]

11/23/2005 10:06:49 AM

yeah this guy's a dumb fuck

there were a hundred ways to say "we're pissed of about X and we're going to go kick the shit out of this guy"

X being shooting at our planes, the un resolution not being followed, we think he's an asshole to his people, etc. that would have been more legitimate

did he use those? NOOOOOO. he had to go with WMD's and the osama link.

retard.

11/23/2005 10:26:10 AM

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"X being shooting at our planes"

What would we do if foreign planes were patrolling our skies?

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"the un resolution not being followed"

Not all UN resolutions are respectable or worth following. But assuming they are, how many UN resolutions is the Jewish state of "Israel" in violation of?

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"we think he's an asshole to his people"

Well, I guess we should invade China, North Korea, Israel and dozens of other countries as well based on that rationale.

[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 10:34 AM. Reason : `]

11/23/2005 10:33:10 AM

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"What would we do if foreign planes were patrolling our skies?"

not a goddamned thing if we signed a peace treaty that that was part of, unless we wanted to start a new war.

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"Not all UN resolutions are respectable or worth following. But assuming they are, how many UN resolutions is the Jewish state of "Israel" in violation of?"

get them referred to the security council and we'll talk

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"Well, I guess we should invade China, North Korea, and dozens of other countries as well based on that rationale."

yeah we should. can we? no. could we invade iraq? yes.

in the near future nk will come to a head one way or the other. iran will come to a head one way or another. syria will come to a head one way or another.

where/when do you decide you've had enough?

[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 10:36 AM. Reason : *]

11/23/2005 10:35:55 AM

LACERATES ARE RUNNING DOWN MY FACE

11/23/2005 10:39:02 AM

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"not a goddamned thing if we signed a peace treaty that that was part of, unless we wanted to start a new war."

Treaties can be broken, you know. They are voluntarily entered into, and can be voluntarily dissolved. Iraq was/is supposedly a sovereign nation. If Iraq wanted to break out of that treaty and stop U.S. patrolling of their skies, they had every right as a sovereign nation to do so. If the U.S. doesn't respect that, they are the ones asking for war.

Now, if we are saying that Iraq is not a sovereign nation, but is subject to the will of the UN, the U.S., or any other foreign power...that is another matter. UN resolutions, while not technically "law", are obviously a step in that direction. Some seem to think that Iraq (and other nations I guess) are not really sovereign countries but have to do whatever the UN (or U.S.) says they have to do.

11/23/2005 10:46:41 AM

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"unless we wanted to start a new war."

11/23/2005 11:16:12 AM

so are we an empire yet or what?

11/23/2005 12:05:40 PM

i say we work with the UN to help get the Ottoman Empire up and running again, and then let them take care of Iraq.

11/23/2005 12:31:16 PM

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""The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al-Qaeda is because there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda." - George W. Bush, June 2004 "There's overwhelming evidence... of a connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq". - Dick Cheney, January 2004 "I have not seen smoking gun, concrete evidence about the connection, but I do believe the connections existed." - Colin Powell, January 2004 "Within a week, or a month, Saddam could give his WMD to al-Qaeda." - Donald Rumsfeld, November 2002 "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3816963.stm

11/23/2005 11:33:48 PM

Haven't most of us known this was crap pretty much from the get-go? You act like this information is new and important.

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"If Iraq wanted to break out of that treaty and stop U.S. patrolling of their skies, they had every right as a sovereign nation to do so."

Well, yeah, just like we have the sovereign right to retaliate. You can break treaties, but not without consequences.

11/24/2005 12:30:30 AM

nationbuilding has got to be the coolest, and smartest, thing we've ever done

i mean, now that we've perfected america, and everyone lives in harmony, why shouldn't we spread across the globe, like a virus, A VIRUS OF HOPE!

11/24/2005 1:11:33 AM

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"What would we do if foreign planes were patrolling our skies?"

I had to warn you too many times
about my cease fire agreement, Smokey.

It's the principle
of the whole thing.

There's principalities
in this.




and I don't appreciate

you sending your punk ass, buster
ass, jheri curl ass friends

to shoot at me and my homie.

They liked to got dealt with.

11/24/2005 1:39:53 AM