who the fuck writes a fucking program that refuses to fucking evaluate e? wtf? my fucking TI-85 calculator that I bought back in 19-fucking-96 can fucking evaluate e. fuck canadians and they're non-programming asses...

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11/28/2005 10:14:48 PM

i bet maple 10 is all like 'FUCK USER ERROR'

11/28/2005 10:18:42 PM

maple is one of the most worthless programs people at the Cal I or Cal II level... hell even Cal III will ever use. It's pointless and stupid. I completely agree when your TI-85 calculator is more functional than a math program something is wrong.

11/28/2005 10:30:28 PM

^^
I'd probably agree...if I was actually doing something wrong

11/28/2005 10:31:51 PM

MATLAB

11/28/2005 10:34:24 PM

MATLAB > Mathematica > Mathcad > Maple

11/28/2005 10:44:08 PM

^ That's is stupid. Maple and MATLAB have different purposes. The former is for symbolic computation, the latter is for numerical solvers.

To evaluate e, type

exp(1);

11/28/2005 10:46:08 PM

Of course they serve different purposes... It's just my personal preference

11/28/2005 10:50:07 PM

evalf(exp(1));

11/28/2005 11:15:27 PM

^
yeah that's how I finally did it. the irony is the fucker I was talking to re tech support kept insisting that all I needed to do was evalf(e)...

still can't evalf a function that has e's in it though, it just spits out the original function

but at this point I don't give a fuck, the semester is practically over and I'm officially tired of fucking around w/ Calc III

11/28/2005 11:23:43 PM

ahaha

like i said, user error

11/28/2005 11:26:30 PM

Quote :

"TGD: I'd probably agree...if I was actually doing something wrong "

11/28/2005 11:30:53 PM

i'd say trying to evalf(e) counts as user error

11/28/2005 11:43:58 PM

^agreed

11/29/2005 12:13:00 AM

Sounds like somebody didn't load a library they needed; Maple is my first choice for mathematical modeling. I like MATLAB, but I'm not very proficient at it.

11/29/2005 12:42:16 AM

^what? i'm glad that "e" isn't a reserved variable

11/29/2005 12:47:08 AM

Quote :

"maple is a great tool, as is matlab i guess if you want to hate it just because you cant follow a basic scripting language you are will within bounds "

11/29/2005 12:54:49 AM

Quote :

"Ernie: i'd say trying to evalf(e) counts as user error"

well sure, if it wasn't what I was fucking told to do by the monkeys that code the program...

[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 2:23 AM. Reason : I wish I could be l33t like Quinn though... ]

11/29/2005 2:18:44 AM

hahahaha, you think "tech support" writes the program.

i'm pretty sure they've never been asked as stupid a question as "how do you evaluate e?" so they were just making shit up.

11/29/2005 2:28:18 AM

you couldn't find out how to evaluate an exponential function using the maple help files

so you called tech support

wow

i'd suggest you stick to your ti-89 in the future

11/29/2005 3:46:03 AM

I've got the program here you arrogant piece of shit, maybe you'd like to take a look yourself. If "evaluating an exponential function" was my problem I wouldn't have bothered.

11/29/2005 8:46:17 AM

what does that mean

11/29/2005 12:55:41 PM

Quote :

" > ?evalf The evalf function evaluates to floating-point or complex floating-point numbers, expressions (or subexpressions) involving constants such as Pi, exp(1), gamma, and functions such as exp, ln, sin, arctan, cosh, GAMMA, and erf. For the complete list of known constants, see ininames. For the complete list of known functions, see inifcns. "

11/29/2005 1:12:30 PM

^ ahahahaha, it fucking told you right in the help file. good job. I don't know why everyone is so down on maple. it's a really powerful and versitile tool, the prof's here for the most part just suck at teaching it. only professor I've ever had that was good at answering maple related questions was norris.

11/29/2005 2:22:37 PM

larry norris is the maple king

11/29/2005 3:28:27 PM

Quote :

"Charybdisjim: ^ ahahahaha, it fucking told you right in the help file. good job."

Quote :

"Jules: English, motherfucker! Do you speak it?"

christ you'd think Noen was retiring and all these little script-kiddies want to take his place...

[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 3:48 PM. Reason : at least Noen talks shit with a personality]

11/29/2005 3:46:01 PM

i still don't understand the point of this thread

you're bitching because you were trying 'evalf(e)' ??

11/29/2005 3:49:07 PM

basically, and now he's bitching because people are giving him a hard time for it.

[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 5:18 PM. Reason : ]

11/29/2005 5:18:06 PM

Maple is actually a really good mathematical package; its downfall is that they need some serious lessons in writing user-friendly code. It's powerful, but its commands are counter-intuitive to people familiar with most any other math program, or calculator.

11/29/2005 5:38:03 PM

maple 10's much better than 9 was though at least. being able to right click on stuff and select "solve" is nice.

11/29/2005 6:34:37 PM

i still have maple 6

11/29/2005 6:38:16 PM

i use 7, im loser

11/29/2005 6:41:38 PM

man I wish the bookstore had 4 dollar maple instead of 4 dollar mathematica though

11/29/2005 7:05:50 PM

kazaa has zero dollar maple
if you really really want it

11/29/2005 7:06:43 PM

Quote :

"Charybdisjim: What?"

[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 7:36 PM. Reason : at least that explains a lot...]

11/29/2005 7:33:11 PM

I used maple 8

11/29/2005 7:33:14 PM

um, how many of you actually still use Maple after you get out of math classes/college?

11/29/2005 7:53:18 PM

i do
i mean im still in classes but i dont have to use maple. if you know how to use it it comes in handy every now and then

(havent found a use for vpython though)

[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 8:00 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2005 8:00:07 PM

Perfection.

(Fuck Maple)

11/29/2005 8:55:17 PM

try copying and pasting that onto something

11/29/2005 9:05:15 PM

my homework would take about 1233 hours doing it on a calculator and about 1 hour in maple

11/29/2005 9:56:03 PM

Quote :

"um, how many of you actually still use Maple after you get out of math classes/college? "

I use it for school and its not required. Be my guest at fucking up uber complex math. Ill use a program.

11/29/2005 9:59:07 PM

Quote :

"Quote : "Charybdisjim: What?" [Edited on November 29, 2005 at 7:36 PM. Reason : at least that explains a lot...]"

You like 98 degrees. What's that got to do with you not being able to read a help file before bitching? Nothing. What's that got to do with you not understanding why people might find that funny as hell? Not much either.

What does a quote of me saying what with absolutely no context have to do with anything?

[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 10:51 PM. Reason : ]

11/29/2005 10:39:06 PM

best intarweb comeback ev4r. gg.

[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 10:52 PM. Reason : carry on]

11/29/2005 10:51:44 PM

Quote :

"^^ I'd probably agree...if I was actually doing something wrong"

Quote :

" > ?evalf The evalf function evaluates to floating-point or complex floating-point numbers, expressions (or subexpressions) involving constants such as Pi, exp(1), gamma, and functions such as exp, ln, sin, arctan, cosh, GAMMA, and erf. For the complete list of known constants, see ininames. For the complete list of known functions, see inifcns. "

/thread

[Edited on November 29, 2005 at 11:00 PM. Reason : ]

11/29/2005 10:52:44 PM

Quote :

"hahahaha, you think "tech support" writes the program. "

11/29/2005 10:58:03 PM

^^
English really isn't that hard. Ask MathFreak.

11/29/2005 11:35:14 PM

Quote :

"who the fuck writes a fucking program that refuses to fucking evaluate e? wtf? my fucking TI-85 calculator that I bought back in 19-fucking-96 can fucking evaluate e. fuck canadians and they're non-programming asses..."

You write that and you criticize someone else's comprehension of the english language? Give it a rest. You've proven yourself to be incompetent. You don't need to keep posting. We get it; you're a moron.

Quote :

"still can't evalf a function that has e's in it though, it just spits out the original funct"

By the way, you do realize that when you enter a letter e in a function, and don't define what e is, you can't evaluate it because the letter e is seen as a variable right? This is neither strange nor suprising to anyone who's used a ti-89, webassign, or maple. It's kind of like how on newer TI calculators, you have to use "e^" and raise it to the first power to get the constant "e." As with the calculator, if you just turn on a-lock and enter the letter "e" it won't know what the fuck you mean unless you define it. Unlike the calculator, maple even includes that info in the help files.

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 12:50 AM. Reason : ]

11/30/2005 12:41:00 AM

It's cute how you keep talking, it's like you almost vaguely understand what's going on

Quote :

"Charybdisjim: By the way, you do realize that when you enter a letter e in a function, and don't define what e is, you can't evaluate it because the letter e is seen as a variable right? This is neither strange nor suprising to anyone who's used a ti-89, webassign, or maple."

By the way, you do realize that when you evaluate a function without typing it (like, say, when it's produced by Maple itself), and don't define what e is, the letter e is seen as a constant right? This is neither strange nor surprising to anyone who's used a ti-89, webassign, or maple.

You write that and call someone else an incompetent moron? Give it a rest.

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 11:27 AM. Reason : or, seriously, talk to MathFreak. It only took him 28 years. You can do it too.]

11/30/2005 11:01:26 AM

OH

so maple 'produced' this erroneous function, evalf(e)

that makes sense

dude just man up and say you fucked up

11/30/2005 12:21:55 PM