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Let's just start with the story about the 5 "dancing Israelis" and the "Israeli movers" in white vans arrested on or shortly after 9/11.

Israeli Mossad agents had set up video cameras on the WTC towers BEFORE the attack, and were seen dancing, shouting for joy, and congratulating each other after the attack. Later a van full of explosives occupied by Israelis was pulled over just hours after the 9/11 attacks. Think I'm making this up? Think again.

http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/09/13/story23625.asp

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"Suspects `filmed New York atrocities'

TCM News
Thursday, September 13, 2001

There are reports five men suspected of being involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre set up cameras to record the atrocity.

The men set up cameras by the Hudson River and trained them on the twin towers.

The New York Times reports they congratulated each other when the crashes occurred.


The five are under investigation by police in Union City, New Jersey, but it is unclear if any of them are in custody."


So, they had cameras "trained" on the towers BEFORE the crashes, and then "congratulated each other when the crashes occured."


http://web.archive.org/web/20011108025936/http:/www.bergen.com/news/2bombvan200109125.htm

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"Five men detained as suspected conspirators

New Jersey Bergen Record
Wednesday, September 12, 2001
By PAULO LIMA
Staff Writer

About eight hours after terrorists struck Manhattan's tallest skyscrapers, police in Bergen County detained five men who they said were found carrying maps linking them to the blasts.

The five men, who were in a van stopped on Route 3 in East Rutherford around 4:30 p.m., were being questioned by police but had not been charged with any crime late Tuesday. The Bergen County Police bomb squad X-rayed packages found inside the van but did not find any explosives, authorities said.

However, sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot.

"There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted," the source said. "It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park."

Sources also said that bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives
, although officers were unable to find anything. The FBI seized the van for further testing, authorities said."


Note what is said here. A "bombing plot." Dogs smelled explosives. Maps of the area. Police think they are linked to the attack and are conspirators. Also, note that this van was pulled over near Route 3, which leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm

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"The White Van

Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?


Published on Saturday, June 22, 2002 by ABC News

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The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.

[...]

The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens.

According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem."

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When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned.

One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation."



Notice that the driver of the van told the officer that "the Palestinians are the problem." This is important.

Original ABC News article archived:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021003225412/http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html

The Forward, a Jewish newspaper, admits that these 5 Israelis were Israelli intelligence and were conducting a Mossad mission, but whitewashes it by suggesting they were tracking the "muslims who carried out the attack."

http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html

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"Americans Probing Reports of Israeli Espionage

MARCH 15, 2002
By MARC PERELMAN
FORWARD STAFF

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The five Israelis worked for a moving company with few discernable assets that closed up shop immediately afterward and whose owner fled to Israel.

[...]

According to one former high-ranking American intelligence official, who asked not to be named, the FBI came to the conclusion at the end of its investigation that the five Israelis arrested in New Jersey last September were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front."



Here's an interesting part of the story. A (mystery) caller told a 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of "Palestinians" in a white van were mixing stuff. Michael Rivero of whatreallyhappened notes that this is peculiar that the caller would specifically say Palestinians because Palestinians typically dress in western style clothes, not in "sheikh uniforms." And remember what the Israeli driver of the white van said to the police. He said "the Palestinians are the problem." This caller was most likely a co-conspirator trying to plant the seed that Arabs or Palestinians were behind the attack.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/1315651/detail.html

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"Exclusive: 911 Tapes Tell Horror Of 9/11 (Part 2)

[...]

Many though were looking closer to home, wondering if the terror was over, and pointing fingers.

Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There's a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He's dressed like an Arab.
"



Later, a van full of explosives was pulled over by police and at least 3 occupants arrested near the George Washington Bridge (which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel where the other van was pulled over). The identity of the occupants was not revealed in the below article, but other publications have reported that they were, in fact, Israelis. If the occupants were Arabs or Palestinians, don't you think we would have heard about this? They were Israelis, just like the occupants of the other white van.

http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/09/12/story23429.asp

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"Three arrested with van full of explosives

TCM News
Wednesday, September 12, 2001

Reports from New York are saying three people have been arrested with a van of explosives.

The van was stopped along the New Jersey turn-pike near the George Washington Bridge.

It was not clear why police stopped the van but when they did they found it was laden down with tonnes of explosives."


Arutz Sheva News Service/IsraelNationalNews.com reports that Israelis in white van were arrested near the George Washington Bridge
http://www.rense.com/general15/isr.htm


(Excellent) Archive Of The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html


So, to sum up. These 5 Israelis had prior knowledge of the attack (ie, they set up cameras on the towers before hand), and they were seen congratulating each other after the attacks. They had box cutters, $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. In what was most likely an attempted frame up, a caller reported a white van with "Palestinians" or "Arabs" in it. Later, another white van full of explosives was pulled over, and Israelis were again the occupants. Nothing suspicious there! No sirree Bob!

But wait. It doesn't end here. Up to 200 Israelis were arrested after 9/11 on suspected connection to the 9/11 attacks, but they were ordered to be quietly released shortly thereafter by certain high-level officials in the federal government. Other Israeli nationals in white vans or vehicles and with ties to front "moving companies" were spotted or arrested in other parts of the country. No real investigations were conducted. And barely any mention in the mainstream media. And everyone else should just forget about it too. There's only one story. The official story. It was bin Laden and his band of bad guys. It was the Arabs and muslims. Remember, the FEDS had the case "solved" within hours of the attack. That's the story. Case closed. On to invading Afghanista, Iraq, and the war against Islam.


Read this article for a comprehensive overview of Israeli/Mossad/Zionist involvement in 9/11.

STRANGER THAN FICTION: AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF 9-11 AND THE WAR ON TERRORISM
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm


[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 11:50 AM. Reason : `]

11/30/2005 11:22:32 AM

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put on your chest waders, folks. it's gettin' deep in here.

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11/30/2005 11:28:19 AM

Mr E Nigma
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dude, that's like, so 4 years ago.

11/30/2005 11:29:04 AM

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Do you see a prisonplanet link above? Here is one area where I disagree with Alex Jones. In my opinion, Jones has not done near enough to expose the Israeli/Mossad/Zionist link to 9/11. He acknowledges that Mossad was involved, but he downplays their role and the overall role played by Zionist Jews in the NWO movement. It seems that he is afraid or unwilling to go into that area. He rarely discusses these facts (and other similar facts exposing the Israeli/Mossad/Zionist link to 9/11) in his radio show, his videos, or on his website.

11/30/2005 11:39:23 AM

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OH HOW WE LOVE PRISONPLANET!!!1

is not a response to a link

it's a response to you

btw - OH HOW WE LOVE PRISONPLANET!!!1

11/30/2005 11:45:05 AM

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"it's a response to you"


Am I the source of the reports above?

The information provided above is from "mainstream" sources. Your dispute is with the MSM, not me.

11/30/2005 11:55:09 AM

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its funny because its EVEN TOO CRAZY FOR ALEX JONES

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 11:58 AM. Reason : ]

11/30/2005 11:58:26 AM

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"its EVEN TOO CRAZY FOR ALEX JONES"


How is it "too crazy"? We're talking about FACTS that were reported in the MSM media. I thought you guys trusted the MSM. Israeli Mossad agents WERE arrested following the attacks. They WERE caught filming the WTC towers and celebrating the attack. They WERE caught with a boxcutter and a map of the area, and bomb-sniffing dogs detected explosives in the van. Israelis WERE later arrested in a van packed full of explosives. Are you disputing these facts?

Alex Jones downplays these facts and shifts attention away from them because he apparantly is afraid or unwilling to expose the full extent of the Zionist role in the NWO plan.

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 12:06 PM. Reason : `]

11/30/2005 12:05:37 PM

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hey dipshit - why the fuck didn't you keep this in your other 9/11 thread?

in case I haven't said it before, you're a douche

yes, I have resulted to strictly personal attacks...you are too thick headed to ever listen to anyone else. although you harp on us for not listening to these other theories as not being open minded, you do the same to the theory that is the truth

in short, go fuck yourself

11/30/2005 12:10:42 PM

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11/30/2005 12:21:05 PM

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"Alex Jones downplays these facts and shifts attention away from them because he apparantly is afraid or unwilling to expose the full extent of the Zionist role in the NWO plan."

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
i wish i knew you in person so i could laugh in your face, i feel like it would be more effective

11/30/2005 12:35:38 PM

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More on Israeli spying in America in connection with 9/11:

Shortly after 9/11, Carl Cameron of Fox News conducted a 4 part series investigating Israeli spying in America. Fox News uncovered evidence of a massive Israeli spy ring inside the United States. They reported that around 200 Israelis had been arrested or detained in connection with 9/11, and that these Israelis had information about the 9/11 attacks that was not passed on to the American government.

Wouldn't it be nice if this series had aired widely and been followed up so the American people could know about this vital information? Well, there's a problem. Not long after the report was produced, Carl Cameron and Fox came under fire from certain groups and individuals. Subsequently, Fox News pulled the transcriptions of the reports off its web site, saying that “this story no longer exists.” The story has been killed, and virtually no other follow ups on this explosive story have been made. Luckily, some people taped these reports and saved the transcripts.

You can watch the report and read the transcripts here (although the video does not seem to be working for me, only the audio works):

FOX News 4 Part Series on Israeli Spying in America
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm


"Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying ... is considered career suicide."

-- Carl Cameron, as quoted in "The Spies Who Came In From The Art Sale"


"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

-- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.


This is the way certain information is kept secret. If it's information they don't want you to know about the Feds just say "this is classified" (suggesting that it is "vital to national security"). Also, they may say that the information is "related to intelligence" and is therefore "classified." As reported in the ABC/commondreams article above, the case of the 5 Israeli Mossad agents arrested after 9/11 was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section.

The Israeli Spy Ring Archive
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html


[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 12:57 PM. Reason : `]

11/30/2005 12:54:39 PM

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the zionists would "deal with" alex jones if he told the truth

omfg salisburyboy, look behind you!!!

aha i bet he ducked under his desk just now

11/30/2005 12:57:26 PM

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Is there any chance of you posting a picture of yourself, sal?

11/30/2005 1:01:56 PM

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the latest photo from our "surveillance"

11/30/2005 2:06:12 PM

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11/30/2005 2:32:56 PM

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You should have learned long ago that lemmings and sheeple won't listen.

11/30/2005 3:08:11 PM

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^ AND ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE TIN FOIL HAT ARMY, KEYBOARD BRIGADE

11/30/2005 3:11:05 PM

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Israel and the Mossad are noted for their ability to impersonate and frame Arabs in "false flag" attacks (ie, where the Mossad carries out a "terrorist" attack and blames it on Arabs). Remember what happened in the 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty? Israel intentionally attacked the U.S. ship (knowing full well it was a U.S. ship...ie, with the American flag flying prominently, etc.) and was trying to sink it and kill everyone on board and then blame it on Egypt.


http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html

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"U.S. Army Officers Say: 'Mossad May Blame Arabs'

Exclusive To American Free Press
By Michael Collins Piper

Top U.S. Army analysts believe Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, is "ruthless and cunning," "a wildcard" that "has [the] capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."

This eye-opening assertion about America's supposed closest ally was reported in a front page story in The Washington Times on September 10-just one day before the terrorist attacks in America that are being blamed on "Arabs."

The Times reported that this serious charge by U.S. Army officers against the Israelis appeared in a 68-page paper prepared by 60 officers at the U.S. Army's School for Advanced Military Studies, a training ground for up-and-coming Army officers."



FBI director Muller publicly admits that there is no evidence linking the named 9-11 hijackers to 9/11, as reported here in this Miami Herald article:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041011123007/http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/3163998.htm

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"U.S. finds no paper trail in terror plot

Apr. 30, 2002
BY ERIC LICHTBLAU AND JOSH MEYER
Los Angeles Times Service

WASHINGTON - For more than seven months, U.S. authorities probing the Sept. 11 attacks have scoured everything from caves to credit cards in the expectation that they would ultimately discover how the 19 hijackers plotted their brazen scheme.

But the global search has produced virtually nothing in the way of hard evidence about the terrorists' planning, and authorities said Monday that they now face the growing realization that they may never know many key details.

That sobering conclusion underscores the skill and sophistication of the al Qaeda terror network in its ability to conceal its activities -- and the equally daunting difficulties that authorities face in heading off another attack, officials said.

''In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper -- either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere -- that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot,'' said FBI Director Robert Mueller in the text of a speech the FBI released Monday.

His remarks offer the FBI's most comprehensive and detailed assessment to date of its investigation, remarkable as much for what investigators have not found as for what they have."


Note the significance of that admission. Not one piece of paper. Not one shred of evidence of any "al Queda" terrorist plotting the 9/11 attacks.


The true perpetrators of 9/11 used skillfully made fake IDs with identities stolen from Arab men:

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/21/inv.id.theft/

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"Expert: Hijackers likely skilled with fake IDs

September 21, 2001
By Daniel Sieberg
CNN

(CNN) -- FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged that some of those behind last week's terror attacks may have stolen the identification of other people, and, according to at least one security expert, it may have been "relatively easy" based on their level of sophistication."


Remember that at least 7 of the 19 men originally identified as "the hijackers" actually turned out to be alive after 9/11. So, the real perpetrators of 9/11 used fake IDs and tried to frame Arabs. Wonder who would want to do that?

11/30/2005 3:12:30 PM

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yeah you know EXCEPT FOR OSAMA ADMITTING TO IT AND BEING ALL PROUD, YOU DUMB FUCK.

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11/30/2005 3:15:47 PM

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"yeah you know EXCEPT FOR OSAMA ADMITTING TO IT AND BEING ALL PROUD, YOU DUMB FUCK."


You really want me to get into the phony bin Laden tapes? And, FYI, bin Laden actually denied being involved in the 9/11 attacks. Oh, and nice use of the F-bomb there. Is that a blatant pander to emotionalism or are you emotionally insecure with these matters? Or both?

11/30/2005 3:42:19 PM

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YOU ARE A LOONY

INSANE

CRACKED

MAD

CRAZY

NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD

SCREWED UP

GOT A SCREW LOOSE

A FEW APPLES SHORT OF A BARREL

AD INFINITUM

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11/30/2005 3:46:43 PM

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