http://mediamatters.org/items/200511300007

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"From the November 28 broadcast of Fox News' The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly: O'REILLY: Now the reason this is happening is because of the ACLU and George Soros, Peter Lewis. Just a reminder: George Soros and Peter Lewis are the far-left, secular progressive billionaires who have funded -- they pour money into the ACLU, they pour money into the smear websites, you know, they buy up a lot of the media time. And they basically want to change the country from a Christian-based philosophical country to a secular progressive country like they have in Western Europe. OK? Now, the ACLU is their legal arm, and the smear websites are their media arm. And they pour a lot of money into both. And the ACLU runs around the country suing everybody and intimidating people. [...] O'REILLY: And in tandem, you use your left-wing smear websites to go after anybody who stands up for Christmas. If you stand up for Christmas, they come after you. So the tandem intimidates. The tandem intimidates. Suing on one hand; smearing on the other hand. And the store CEOs, they got it. We don't want to get involved in that. We don't want to be sued. We don't want to be smeared, so we're going to say "Happy Holidays." Intimidation and lawsuits; the combo has worked. In Denver, they were going to ban a Christmas parade -- they don't call it Christmas parade anymore, but we can't have anything that shows anything about Christmas. Well, that, you know, has been knocked out. Now, I think, they can have one float or something. We're going to cover that. And in Boston, you saw what happened. [...] O'REILLY: Well, that's right. I mean, if there's anything The Factor does it's bring the big picture to people so they understand what's going on, and -- because it isn't in a vacuum. I mean, the ACLU and George Soros and these websites don't operate day to day without a plan. There is a plan. MIKE JOHNSON (senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund): Sure, there is. O'REILLY: There's a very secret plan. And it's a plan that nobody's going to tell you, "Well, we want to diminish Christian philosophy in the U.S.A. because we want X, Y, and Z." They'll never ever say that. But I'm kind of surprised they went after Christmas because it's such an emotional issue. JOHNSON: Well, it is. But I think they did not count on the fact that they would be exposed as they have been. You had my boss on a few weeks ago on your program, Alan Sears -- O'REILLY: Right. JOHNSON: And he wrote the book ACLU vs. America [Broadman & Holman, September 2005] -- O'REILLY: Right. JOHNSON: Which, by the way, went to number 22 on Amazon the following day, Bill. Thanks. But that's helping get the word out. And he shows in the book, he documents -- he goes back 80 years to the founding of Roger Baldwin, and he shows how this was a -- is a very deliberate plan of action -- O'REILLY: Sure. JOHNSON: -- and strategy they've had. O'REILLY: In every secular progressive country, they've wiped out religion. JOHNSON: That's right. O'REILLY: Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, all of them. That's the first step. Get the religion out of there, so that we can impose our big-government, progressive agenda. Hey, merry Christmas, Mike. We appreciate it. Keep us posted -- From the November 29 broadcast of The Radio Factor: CALLER: And I think that, you know, when you talk about the people in America who are spewing this filth, you know, that's arising from pure ignorance -- O'REILLY: No, it's not. No, no, you're wrong. It's arising from hatred. Here's the point. You can dissent about the war and feel it is not a good policy for America and they screwed it up. And that's absolutely legitimate dissent. Absolutely legitimate. OK? But you can't accuse Bush and Cheney of lying purposely to get people killed, because they wanted Halliburton to make money. You can't do that unless you have proof. Once you start down that defamation lane, then you have to be held accountable for what you say. That's what I'm talking about. Not honest dissent. I'm talking about blatant propaganda spit out there on a daily basis by hateful liars, picked up by the mainstream media and rammed down the public's throat. That's what I'm talking about. And you know who I'm talking about too. You know the newspapers that do it, you know the radio people that do it, you know the TV people that do it. And you should be as angry about it as I am. It's dishonest, it hurts the country, and I'm gonna bring those people down. Mark my words. I'm gonna take 'em down, because nobody else will. I'm gonna do it. And that's what I was talking about last night in the coalition of the willing. We're gonna go after those people where they live. If mainstream media continues to run out this slander and run out this defamation, I'm gonna name the name, put their face on television, and tell you about it on the radio. So you walk away from them, so they fail in the marketplace. Enough's enough. We got people with lives on the line. We got people wanting to kill us where we live. And we gotta put up with this kind of crap on the Internet funded by George Soros? Not gonna happen. No spin zone. I'll be right back. "

you can hear the audio clip here
http://mediamatters.org/items/200511300007

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"And you should be as angry about it as I am. It's dishonest, it hurts the country, and I'm gonna bring those people down. Mark my words. I'm gonna take 'em down, because nobody else will. I'm gonna do it. And that's what I was talking about last night in the coalition of the willing. We're gonna go after those people where they live."

I wonder how he's going to go after these people? Is he going to tell al queda to attack them like he did to san fran? http://mediamatters.org/items/200511150003

12/1/2005 9:06:57 AM

The cat needs more meds.

Or more falafel.

12/1/2005 9:10:59 AM

he just has more pent up frustration these days since his favorite producer quit

12/1/2005 9:20:22 AM

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"We got people wanting to kill us where we live. And we gotta put up with this kind of crap on the Internet funded by George Soros?"

yes, i know that we should worry about terrorists, but first, lets take care of George Soros

12/1/2005 11:15:39 AM

Big difference b/w O'Reilly and myself.

Basically everyone knows that the ACLU has an anti-Christian agenda. But O'Reilly would have you believe that it's just the "left" that's the problem, and that Bush and the republicans are the solution to the problem (which is completely false and very dangerous). O'Reilly sings Bush and the Republicans' praises. He's there to keep people locked in the phony left/right, republican/democrat paradigm.

12/1/2005 12:21:07 PM

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"Basically everyone knows that the ACLU has an anti-Christian agenda."

yeah, let's just forget all the times the ACLU has defended christians!

it's really everyone assumes that about the ACLU

[Edited on December 1, 2005 at 12:55 PM. Reason : space you]

12/1/2005 12:55:19 PM

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"yeah, let's just forget all the times the ACLU has defended christians! "

Sure, they often defend people who happen to be Christians, but the ACLU is not defending Christianity in the vast majority of those cases. And even if there are a very few cases where they are defending Christianity (or Christain values), they are nothing campared to the MANY, MANY times the ACLU has taken a stance against Christianity and against Christian values, including stances in favor of abortion and homosexuality. The ACLU was founded by an admitted socialist/communist (secular humanist) who opposed Christianity. The organization was founded to attack Christianity. It's been that way from the beginning.

Are you "just going to forget all the times" the ACLU has OPPOSED Christians?

http://dianedew.com/aclu.htm

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"Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings by Diane Dew Ever notice how the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) seems to take on only cases that are anti-Christian - pro-sodomy, pro-abortion, anti-family, pro-pornography, pro-prostitution, pro-euthanasia, pro-homosexual, pro-infanticide, pro-crime, pro-humanism, anti-God -- and, except for atheism, anti-religion? It calls itself the American Civil Liberties Union, but the ACLU is not American; it is uncivil (to the unborn, which are shredded mercilessly to pieces without anesthetic); and it knows nothing of true liberty, which can only be found in Jesus Christ, when one is set free from the bondage of all the SIN this evil organization PROMOTES! Stated Goals The ACLU's founder, Roger Baldwin, stated: "We are for SOCIALISM, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself... We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the SOLE CONTROL of those who produce wealth. COMMUNISM is the goal."(Source: Trial and Error, by Geo. Grant) The ACLU is destructive to the fabric of our society. Christians must recognize Satan as the source - the instigator - when the end results of an organization's efforts are only "to kill, to steal, and to destroy." All we need to is examine the (rotten) fruit. Following are some of the stated goals of the ACLU, from its own published Policy Issues: the legalization of prostitution (Policy 211); the defense of all pornography, including CHILD PORN, as "free speech" (Policy 4); the decriminalization and legalization of all drugs (Policy 210); the promotion of homosexuality (Policy 264); the opposition of rating of music and movies (Policy 18); opposition against parental consent of minors seeking abortion (Policy 262); opposition of informed consent preceding abortion procedures (Policy 263); opposition of spousal consent preceding abortion (Policy 262); opposition of parental choice in children's education (Policy 80) -- not to mention the defense and promotion of euthanasia, polygamy, government control of church institutions, gun control, tax-funded abortion, birth limitation, etc. (Policies 263, 133, 402, 47, 261, 323, 271, 91, 85)."

And, by the way, I'm not a fan of "Christmas." It's a pagan holiday masquerading as a "Christian" holiday. It has no basis in the Bible, and is based on an ancient pagan holiday held around the winter solstice. The Romans called the holiday "Saturnalia." The Catholic Church kept the holiday but changed the name to "Christ's Mass." The yule log, tree, presents, mistle toe, etc. are all pagan, non-Christian aspects of this ritual that have remained a part of the holiday.


[Edited on December 1, 2005 at 2:48 PM. Reason : `]

12/1/2005 2:37:46 PM

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"It's a pagan holiday masquerading as a "Christian" holiday. It has no basis in the Bible, and is based on an ancient pagan holiday held around the winter solstice. The Romans called the holiday "Saturnalia." The Catholic Church kept the holiday but changed the name to "Christ's Mass." The yule log, tree, presents, mistle toe, etc. are all pagan, non-Christian aspects of this ritual that have remained a part of the holiday. "

you're certainly right about that. the irony is that christianity itself has a similar history.

12/1/2005 3:37:16 PM

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"and it knows nothing of true liberty, which can only be found in Jesus Christ, when one is set free from the bondage of all the SIN this evil organization PROMOTES!"

talk about BIAS!

why should someone be denied the right of control of their own body (prostitution, abortion, drugs, homosexuality, euthanasia)?

why should a minor or spouse be denied access to medical treatment if she doesn't tell her parents?

why should the government be allowed to censor products, such as prohibiting the purchase tickets to an R-rated film by a minor?

so ridiculous.

and then you want to argue that ACLU wants to abolish christianity, what a farce! What the ACLU stands for is the separation of church and state. so when your christian mayor puts up a nativity set on public ground, it is making christianity an officially sanctioned and promoted religion, which is, gasp, against our constititution, of course you're going to think the ACLU is attacking christianity. but that's only because you are stupid.

but i really should stop. there is no sense is arguing with you.

12/1/2005 5:22:53 PM

wow, I had no idea about that ACLU stuff, that thing reads just like the anarchist platform:

ACLU:

"We are for SOCIALISM, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself... We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the SOLE CONTROL of those who produce wealth. COMMUNISM is the goal."

Anarchist FAQ (infoshop.org):

"[i]n common with all socialists, the anarchists hold that the private ownership of land, capital, and machinery has had its time; that it is condemned to disappear: and that all requisites for production must, and will, become the common property of society, and be managed in common by the producers of wealth. And. . . they maintain that the ideal of the political organisation of society is a condition of things where the functions of government are reduced to minimum. . . [and] that the ultimate aim of society is the reduction of the functions of government to nil -- that is, to a society without government, to an-archy" [Peter Kropotkin, Op. Cit., p. 46]

fun stuff, I had no idea that anarchists were so well-organized, or that anyone took them seriously enough to actually obey them.

12/2/2005 9:33:22 AM

do you actually think that's TRUE? you REALLY think the aclu said that? jesus.

it's so weird, isn't it, that there's a gazilliion websites referencing this, but you can't actually find the documents they're referencing anywhere? at least, I can't. hmmmmmmmm

[Edited on December 2, 2005 at 10:01 AM. Reason : .]

12/2/2005 9:58:42 AM

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/rogerbaldw136408.html

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""I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal." --Roger Baldwin"

12/2/2005 10:05:57 AM

meh, I dont have the time to bother tracking down quotes, I just thought it was funny how it was so similar to the anarchist ideals. Whether somebody actually said it or not isn't really important to me because I dont base my opinions on such quotes, I post for entertainment purposes, jesus.

12/2/2005 10:16:14 AM

^^ AH! AHA!

"I AM FOR..."

That says nothign about the goals of hte aclu itself.

george bush has been videotaped flipping off the camera at several events. Does that mean that the entire republican party is flipping off the camera? you can't associate an entire group with the words of one man, though those words (if he's really said them) are disturbing.

also, he's dead. he died in 1981.

[Edited on December 2, 2005 at 10:29 AM. Reason : .]

12/2/2005 10:21:03 AM

too bad o'reilly's pretty much dead right here

12/2/2005 11:41:31 AM

oreily is done.

12/2/2005 2:29:10 PM

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"wow, I had no idea about that ACLU stuff, that thing reads just like the anarchist platform freedom"

12/2/2005 3:57:59 PM

What's so wrong with having an anti-Christian stance? I mean, Jesus was a righteous cat and believed in love, equality, compassion, charity, and the like, but since when has Christianity actually followed that model.

Most of the Christians I see running around are sanctimonious sycophants who preach more about others going to hell than trying to do anything for humanity. And most of 'em are rich, too. Selfish bastards.

Secular humanism is the way to go.

And as for as O'Reilly's point of the media spreading ideas of

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"Bush and Cheney...lying purposely to get people killed, because they wanted Halliburton to make money."

I don't remember any major news outlets saying that. Perhaps they've been saying "lying purposefully to make Halliburton money" or "confused Saddam with Osama," but I don't think Bush & Co. wished anyone's death, per se.

[Edited on December 2, 2005 at 5:15 PM. Reason : more ranting]

12/2/2005 5:10:30 PM

I wasnt sure whether to make a new thread with this or just post in here, because this is even crazier shit:

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"CAVUTO: Why are you sure that they manipulated them? O’REILLY: I have guys that are inside the five major oil companies - my father used to work for one of those oil companies, by the way - who have told me that in those meetings they look for every way to jack up oil prices after Katrina, every way. When they didn’t have to. And they got scared because in my reporting and some other reporting, they said – CAVUTO: Wait, you’re taking credit for gas prices being down? O’REILLY: My reporting and reporting of others. CAVUTO: Has nothing to do with refineries that came back online or the crisis calmed after the hurricanes? O’REILLY: The demand for oil in this country is the same now as it was one day after Hurricane Katrina. It’s the same. Selling the same amount of gas and oil. CAVUTO: But the supply has increased, right? O’REILLY: The supply has increased? Who knows. CAVUTO: And it’s traded like a stock, correct? O’REILLY: It’s traded by speculation, and the bottom line is they were afraid of a federal investigation and they said– "

So when you pay two bucks at the pump today, make sure to thank good ole Bill.

12/5/2005 10:13:56 AM