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"War based on a lie Weapons of mass destruction? I’m still looking for them, and if you find any, give me a call so we can justify our presence in Iraq. We started the war based on a lie, and we’ll finish it based on a lie. I say this because I am currently serving with a logistics headquarters in the Anbar province, between the cities of Fallujah and Ramadi. I am not fooled by the constant fabrication of “democracy” and “freedom” touted by our leadership at home and overseas. This deception is furthered by our armed forces’ belief that we can just enter ancient Mesopotamia and tell the locals about the benefits of a legislative assembly. While our European ancestors were hanging from trees, these ancient people were writing algebra and solving quadratic equations. Now we feel compelled to strong-arm them into accepting the spoils of capitalism and “laissez-faire” society. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy watching Britney Spears on MTV and driving to McDonald’s, but do you honestly believe that Sunnis, Shias and Kurds want our Western ideas of entertainment and freedom imposed on them? Think again. I’m not being negative, I’m being realistic. The reality in Iraq is that the United States created a nightmare situation where one didn’t exist. Yes, Saddam Hussein was an evil man who lied, cheated and pillaged his own nation. But how was he different from dictators in Africa who commit massive crimes again humanity with little repercussion and sometimes support from the West? The bottom line up front (BLUF to use a military acronym) is that Saddam was different because we used him as an excuse to go to war to make Americans “feel good” about the “War on Terrorism.” The BLUF is that our ultimate goal in 2003 was the security of Israel and the lucrative oil fields in northern and southern Iraq. Weapons of mass destruction? Call me when you find them. In the meantime, “bring ’em on” so we can get our “mission accomplished” and get out of this mess. Capt. Jeff Pirozzi Camp Taqaddum, Iraq"

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=33436

12/2/2005 8:44:46 PM

i love it

but of course, i'm sure that is a shock to none

12/2/2005 9:22:57 PM

democracy and laissez-faire capitalism are 2 different things.


My buddy who just got back from Iraq said that the troops are mostly split into hard-core liberals and hard-core conservatives. There are very few soldiers in the middle. therefore its not surprising to hear rants like this both for and against the war written by soldiers who have seen the same things.

12/2/2005 9:27:56 PM

no matter how evil sadam is ...it still doesnt have anything to do with the fact that history has shown nation building in the middle east does not work

[Edited on December 2, 2005 at 10:09 PM. Reason : -]

12/2/2005 10:08:37 PM

If history shows anything, it shows that history is largely unwritten yet.

12/2/2005 10:15:49 PM

wow, I am sincerly impressed this appeared in a military paper. They almost never allow things like this to appear.

They are always supposed to be supporting and moral uplifting. I won't go so far as to say they are censored...but it wouldn't surprise me.

12/3/2005 12:10:43 AM

well thats the kind of thinking id expect from someone who thinks gasoline is the energy of the future

12/3/2005 12:50:37 AM

wow. all of those "arguments" are about as weak as cindy sheehan. its not like the guy made any great points. its just the typical liberal talking points. "OMFG NO WAR FOR OIL!!!" "WHERE ARE THE WMDS?" "OMFG ITS ALL A LIE!!!" "OMFG WHAT ABOUT AFRICA???"

12/3/2005 6:37:44 PM

the only thing i'd disagree about is the oil fields part

where the fuck is the cheap gas?

12/3/2005 7:12:06 PM

^^good point

i've never seen anyone make that point

12/3/2005 7:13:28 PM

i know. I'm quite original

12/3/2005 7:55:22 PM

So a liberal is off in Iraq hoping he doesn't get killed, while chickenhawk conservatives here in the US take potshots at him.

How patriotic of you. Don't you support our troops?

12/3/2005 11:53:13 PM

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12/4/2005 12:31:34 AM

i get this paper everyday!

12/4/2005 11:40:06 AM

The Stars and Gripes also ran a story about Security Contractors killing Iraqi's.


That would have been news .....maybe 2 and a half years ago.... not now.


The industry has a pretty good record, the problem is that we are not military and can stop and roll over the dead and claim they are "Insurgents". Contractors, shoot and speed off because that is their job, remove the principle from the threat.

On my contract, wich is with a major Government Department, we are held to a Federal Law Enforcement Standard.

We understand that any violent interaction with the locals, is detrimental to the overall mission of the Depatment we support and the overall mission here.

Not all "Contractors are mad Equal".

12/5/2005 4:17:02 PM

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"So a liberal is off in Iraq hoping he doesn't get killed, while chickenhawk conservatives here in the US take potshots at him."

hey, nobody forced him to open his big fat mouth and spout off the left's talking points. I'd slam him all the same if he were spouting off the right's talking points as well, thank you very much.

12/5/2005 4:19:58 PM

believe that shit when i see it

12/5/2005 9:02:46 PM

this guy is brainwashed by your liberals and your mainstream media.

12/6/2005 8:54:45 PM

THE BIG GIRL STRIKES AGAIN!

12/6/2005 8:59:44 PM

i guess maturity isnt one of your strong points

12/6/2005 9:01:35 PM

I guess not being a douche isnt yours either.

Seriously, though, we had a fine discussion going before you popped in.

12/6/2005 9:03:15 PM