Good or bad idea?

12/12/2005 10:12:39 AM

pretty good, so far as free storage options go. a dvdr is still better, and will last 2-3 years.

12/12/2005 10:14:21 AM

is that all a DVD will last??

12/12/2005 10:19:34 AM

Yes, DVDR's and CDR's generally only last 2-3 years MAX before massive data corruption sets in.

It's a massive fucking scam, the whole "put all your vhs tapes on dvd" industry. PRESSED cd and dvd's CAN last hundreds of years, but NOT burned discs, which is what the whole industry is using.

12/12/2005 10:26:33 AM

i dunno if i believe that. I have burned CD's that I made in the late 90's that still work for me.

12/12/2005 11:15:53 AM

damn this sucks


there's a shitton of archives burnt to cd that my company relies on

12/12/2005 11:37:12 AM

Neon, can you provide legitimate documentation on this, if you are not trolling?

12/12/2005 11:42:58 AM

plenty of burnt cds and dvds last well over 3years

12/12/2005 11:46:50 AM

oh shit, he called him Neon, and he called him a possible troll

time to leave this thread

12/12/2005 11:48:13 AM

HERE WE GO

12/12/2005 12:24:43 PM

lol, a scam yeah maybe if you wipe your ass with it daily and scratch off that thin layer of scored plastic that holds the data it'll only last 3 years

12/12/2005 12:30:58 PM

Before long noen is going to post a picture of a check

call that research

and claim a win

12/12/2005 12:36:33 PM

Quote :

"HERE WE GO"

12/12/2005 1:10:52 PM

Ok, so what is the best way to secure these files I am going to send to google? I assume there is a pgp program that will encrypt files I give it?

12/12/2005 1:22:51 PM

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"i dunno if i believe that. I have burned CD's that I made in the late 90's that still work for me."

same here, since nobody had cable internet in 1999, the only way to get alot of mp3's (from napster ofcourse) was to download what you could and then trade with friends. "I"ll trade you Lou Bega - "Mambo #5" for that new TLC "No Scrubs" song!!1"

12/12/2005 2:04:33 PM

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"same here, since nobody had cable internet in 1999,"

I was on a T1 in 1997 and downloading MP3's from everywhere, even simple text links on webpages. You could find pretty much any CD or individual song you wanted.

Yes, burned CD's don't last for shit. Hell, even store bought pressed CD's don't last for shit. The topside coating starts coming off, even if it is just sitting in a CD case and never moved. I have several older CD's that you can hold up to the light and see daylight coming through. Moisture makes it worse, mildew or something makes it stick to its sleeve then rips it off. Delamination seems to happen without any extra stress though. Everyone worries about scratches on the face of the CD but its the topside scratches that have the most potential for damage.

[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 1:01 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2005 1:00:35 PM

i had cable i-net in '98 - what are you talking about

12/13/2005 1:17:12 PM

^^ I can see that happening, but that still is not data corruption on behalf of the burning, or pressing, or data becoming corrupt just because. What you are saying is that what the lamination being burnt, or pressed upon can degrade over time, which can cause the data to become unreadable, most likely caused by an external source of scratching or something of the like - maybe even the laser of a CD reading device could have something to do with this.

12/13/2005 1:24:09 PM

Its happening ALOT. And its not just specific brands or anything. I've started making digital backups of every CD I own simply because eventually all seem to be doing it, regadless of manufacturer, use, or storage. I found a wallet of CDr's I had not opened in a couple years. They were all mp3 CD's from 98/99 and I could only get through one of the CD's copying the data, all the rest were corrupt.

12/13/2005 1:38:10 PM

good thread. its scary, but true. it really bothers me when some of my older CDRs start peeling away somehow (despite being in temperature-controlled environments)... so sad

-ZiP!-

12/13/2005 4:11:40 PM

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/7751

I know over the past few years I have seen several big real world trials of CDR media, which have all concluded basically the same thing,

it's a crapshoot with good media, as there are always bad batches

and cheap media is pretty much destined to fail quickly.

http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/gipwg/StabilityStudy.pdf is another one good thing to read.

Basically if you use quality stuff, rarely use the disc, and store it properly, you have the best chance of longevity.

[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 6:12 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2005 6:06:57 PM

what a downer, and i was just transfering video tapes to dvd.
thats cool though cause you can just reburn them every 5 years or so.

12/13/2005 8:46:27 PM