ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Only thread I found had expired.
Just got back from watching this. Very good movie, but dragged a little at the beginning. Jackson could've shaved off a couple of characters and lost very little IMO. Otherwise a great movie. Some people criticized Jack Black, but I think he did a pretty good job. There's going to be complaints about the CGI, especially during one scene with the dinosaurs.
Naomi Watts was fantastic. It's amazing the connection they established between her and Kong, even though she hardly said a word. Watching Kong kill people and dinosaurs recklessly is pretty funny too. 12/14/2005 7:13:45 PM |
blasphemour All American 57594 Posts user info edit post |
http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=372668 12/14/2005 7:15:18 PM |
ZiP All American 18939 Posts user info edit post |
in before the lock
thats right, you heard me
-ZiP!- 12/14/2005 10:11:16 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
that thread is in chit chat, I manually searched the first three pages and the only thread that turned up in regular search is too old 12/14/2005 10:16:16 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
just saw it, awesome movie. Best fight scene in a movie ever was king kong vs t-rex x 3 lol.... 12/15/2005 1:25:50 AM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
haha that shit was fucking nice 12/15/2005 1:27:42 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Movie was awesome, the part with Kong on the ice was great. And of course him whipping various animal's asses was great. 12/15/2005 1:51:11 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
So was it at all like that game Primal Rage? Cause that is what the previews reminded me of. 12/15/2005 7:42:03 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
When I saw the commercials and saw the Naomi Watts character having a "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" moment in what I suspected was the end where they are trying to kill kong I though they turned it into one of those movies. Where the girl "falls in love" with something that should be scaring the everliving crap out of her.
Then I heard a review on NPR. They were talking up the part where kong was defending her from the other monsters on the island to the point where she didn't want to go with her human rescuer because she felt like only kong could protect her. Makes sense to me. It was in the original but they didn't play it up as much as it sounds like they did on the new version.
Maybe they did play it up in the original and I was just oblivious but I seem to remember the guy coming to save her from kong and she went without hesitation or so much as a word (saw it a week or so ago).
So for those that saw it. How bad/good/present/absent was the irrational love toward something that someone should be appalled by angle? It is hard to suspend disbelief when the characters are not responding how people would really respond if it were to actually happen. IE love/argue to protect when you would really fear, fear, run, fear at every opportunity. 12/15/2005 8:55:18 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Well initially she was scared, and she did run. But when she ran she only found more trouble, and Kong was there to save her. If you have this gigantic gorilla, who you've established you can't run from, and one that you've seen protects you and doesn't want to hurt you, you probably wouldn't really feel any sense of fear. There was a turning point on her feelings towards the gorilla, and I'll let you watch the movie and see when/where/why it is that she comes to not fear Kong. 12/15/2005 9:37:09 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I kinda want to see this because the Ape vs T-Rex fight in the promos was badass. Is it any good? 12/15/2005 10:50:18 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
I honestly had no idea kong died
never saw the whole movie before, just the t-rex fight and was always bitter the stupid ape won.
ill have to see this. 12/15/2005 10:53:10 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah, they take kong to america and he starts eating too much fast food. Coronary heart disease...
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! 12/15/2005 11:02:05 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
if only they had the twin towers back then, he'd be so high only a passenger airliner could knock him down 12/15/2005 12:18:15 PM |
jnpaul All American 9807 Posts user info edit post |
I went and saw the movie last night kind of wish I hadn't it was really long (3+ hours) and like other people have said it dragged quite a bit. Definately my favorite parts were the animated fight scene between Kong and the Dinosaurs and when the gigantic bugs attacked the people from the ship(everybody in the theatre was freaking out). 12/15/2005 12:59:27 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't think it was dragged on, but one thing i found funny was that there were as many "sniffles" or people crying in this movie as there were in something like titanic. 12/15/2005 1:29:07 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
i saw it tonight
i cried
kong is my kindred spirit.
[Edited on December 17, 2005 at 3:30 AM. Reason : :] 12/17/2005 3:30:41 AM |
J_Gatsby All American 1336 Posts user info edit post |
12/17/2005 3:42:13 AM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
i loved that game 12/17/2005 5:07:59 AM |
jnpaul All American 9807 Posts user info edit post |
i thought of primal rage when i saw those animals going at it
[Edited on December 17, 2005 at 10:57 AM. Reason : ] 12/17/2005 10:56:59 AM |
badboyben All American 7631 Posts user info edit post |
I saw it last night. Loved the Kong/Dino fights. I felt bad for Kong when he died. 12/17/2005 11:10:38 AM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
12/17/2005 11:36:07 AM |
Buzzing All American 1054 Posts user info edit post |
haha i cried too, the movie was awesome! 12/17/2005 1:04:37 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
I posted this elsewhere, however:
Quote : | "I enjoyed the movie, but the first hour of it dragged way too much for me.
If they had just put up title cards that said, "Desperate Producer needs to make a hit movie and has set sail for an uncharted/unexplored/whatever island with his cast, a playwright, and the ship's crew.", the first part would have been much smoother. The relationships established within the first hour don't really add terribly much to the overall story, other than showing why Driscoll would want to go after Ann.
The island natives came out of nowhere too. It was a completely jarring change of pace." |
12/17/2005 2:07:35 PM |
Duchess All American 1817 Posts user info edit post |
I saw this movie last night, I thought it was VERY good. I had no idea he died in the end though. I def. would have cried but we went with a couple of goofballs who continued to refer to King Kong as Ced and so it was hard to really get into it. 12/17/2005 6:40:28 PM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
When King Kong beat the crap out of the T-Rexes, I was amazed....
Other than that, the movie was too long and kinda started dragging towards the end. Either way, I thought it was better than I expected....
And the little affection story between Kong and the girl isn't really too bad... They make it seem like she feels sorry for him more than anything, so it wasn't too irrational. I mean, he does save her life...
I was also impressed by Jack Black's ability to be semi-serious... He didn't do a bad job...
One of the best parts was when I went to get my drink refilled and a cop was cuffing a guy he had pinned on the floor in the lobby...
[Edited on December 18, 2005 at 11:21 AM. Reason : .] 12/18/2005 11:16:38 AM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
what was up with the kid in the movie reading "a heart of darkness" ? there was no need for that character or his relationship with that african sailor.
i just didnt understand why he was needed. i kept thinking the kid (who they make reference to a few times about not knowing where he came from) was going to play some important role, like knowing about kong in advance, or having escaped the island himself. cut this movie down to like 2 hrs 25 min and it is one of the better movies i've seen in a long time. the length makes it unwatchable again. 12/19/2005 12:13:23 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, he's definitely the most unnecessary character in whole film. Even as they introduced him I thought he was irrelevant. 12/19/2005 1:27:32 AM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
the length makes it unbearable.
there is 3 hours i'll never get back.
the killing is the best part. 12/19/2005 3:33:24 AM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
the entire budget of the film
however many hundreds of millions it took
was entirely justified
solely to watch king kong jump off a ledge and dropkick a t-rex.
other than that, it was decent. my favorite part other than the dropkick was the audience's reaction to the two giant centipedes, and later to the bug fight scene. definitely should have been shorter, though. 12/19/2005 3:50:58 AM |
FeverRed All American 8499 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How bad/good/present/absent was the irrational love toward something that someone should be appalled by angle? " |
It was ultra-present, ultra-bad. I got tired of the meaningful stares of every major character in the movie. There just seemed to be so much filler in that movie. I was really disappointed.12/19/2005 4:32:10 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
To much love, not enough giant ape poop being thrown! 12/19/2005 9:31:31 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
i for one didnt think it felt like 3 hours. you want to FEEL that 3 hours, go watch magnolia.
[Edited on December 19, 2005 at 10:21 PM. Reason : to be fair, i liked magnolia, but it dragged....then again it was 1 MINUTE longer] 12/19/2005 10:20:55 PM |
wednesday All American 646 Posts user info edit post |
It was a pretty good spectacle, but dear fucking god they shouldn't have cast Jack Black and that last line was a KILLER.
AND NOT IN THAT GOOD WAY. 12/19/2005 11:58:18 PM |
ixheartxyou All American 651 Posts user info edit post |
That last line was stupid. I didn't know kong was going to die when I went into that movie. I got asked if it was weird to think the worm/bug things looked like uncircumsized penises afterwards. Kong > Narnia Its not the best movie I've ever seen. 12/20/2005 3:14:08 AM |
Floridaman All American 507 Posts user info edit post |
As others have already said the fight scene and the bug scene were both awesome. The movie drug on forever for me and got kind of boring. I dont know...I laughed through most of it, didn't know it was a comedy, but never want to see it again... 12/20/2005 3:18:55 AM |
FeverRed All American 8499 Posts user info edit post |
Well, King Kong died in the first movie. And that was the famous line from the first movie.
And yes, the bug/leech/whatever swampy things did look like uncircumcised cocks. That was the first thing I thought when I saw it. 12/20/2005 3:59:23 AM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
cheesy line to end
B+ overall
some of the action was drawn out too much for my taste 12/20/2005 7:44:21 AM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
the last line was bad, which was kind of sad considering the other echo-y lines scattered throughout the movie were done well i thought. 12/20/2005 8:56:29 AM |
Mangy Wolf All American 2006 Posts user info edit post |
The dinosaur and bug scenes should have been edited. Other than that it was very good. 12/20/2005 11:14:48 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
good grief
this was a shitty fucking movie
HOW THE FUCK DO CGI DINOSAURS IN 2005 LOOK WORSE THAN CGI DINOSAURS FROM 1993
has anyone in this thread mentioned the fact that they never explain HOW THEY GOT KONG OFF THE FUCKING ISLAND AND BACK TO NYC?
did they just throw a lasso around his neck and drag him behind the fucking boat? he certainly wasn't gonna fit down in Brodie's cage
i'm serious, i got on the Peter Jackson as "big movie director of the future" bandwagon after the 2nd LOTR movie, and kind of waned after the third one, but after this, fuck peter jackson
seriously how the fuck do you make a movie that manages to be both BLOATED and completely UNDERWHELMING at the same time???
i want my 200 minutes back 12/20/2005 11:26:39 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
its not about the technology, its about the artistic ability. 12/20/2005 11:32:00 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
ok i'll put it this way
the dinosaur stampede killlllled my eyes
it might look better on dvd, with a smaller screen, and some more time to get it right
but it was just TOOOOO clear that i was seeing computer graphics, unlike Jurrassic park where I couldn't tell when they were using animatronics and when they used CGI, and still can't honestly
or hell, if i thought about it, i could even put it like this:
HOW THE FUCK DO CGI CREATURES FROM WETA IN 2005 LOOK WORSE THAN CGI CREATURES FROM WETA IN 2002? 12/20/2005 11:41:40 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
ILM pwnts WETA 12/20/2005 11:44:37 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
i saw the 1933 original the other night
i remember them gassing Kong, but then i think the scene just cuts to NYC and he's in chains 12/20/2005 11:47:19 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
So everyone hates the last line yet no one has posted it yet?
Quote : | "Oh no, 'twasn't the aviators it was Beauty killed the Beast. (1933)" |
And the 8th wonder of the world is not a giant ape. It is a giant rock... the one that everyone that didn't know Kong dies at the end has been hiding under, 'cmon people.12/20/2005 12:20:00 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
i think the combo of cgi and animatronics works well b/c they have something to match and it has to flow seamlessly. seriously i though that AVP was one of the better CGI done recently b/c you couldnt tell most of the time when it was there vs animatronics. im sure it is a helluva lot cheaper to just do cgi though which is why they probably shy away from it.
i thought kong and the bugs were well done most of the time, though yeah the dinos were a bit much.
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 12:26 PM. Reason : prolly has more to do with size and the quantity in screen. dinos looked fine up close.] 12/20/2005 12:25:43 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
its like they didn't even try and do any shading on the dinosaurs or even on the people when they were surrounded by dinosaurs
it was just terrible
heh when it was over all i could think to say was "did we win?" 12/20/2005 12:50:17 PM |
wednesday All American 646 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "HOW THE FUCK DO CGI DINOSAURS IN 2005 LOOK WORSE THAN CGI DINOSAURS FROM 1993" |
Fucking yes. Exactly what I was thinking.12/20/2005 1:02:47 PM |
FeverRed All American 8499 Posts user info edit post |
There was so much filler in that movie they could have taken out. With the fight between Kong and the t-rexes, I kept thinking, "Are they done? Oh, no, they're fighting some more. How about....wait, no, they're falling...and falling some more....oh there's another dinosaur...still falling. Okay, done now? Nope, still some more fighting." By the time they got to the bugs I was done with the whole island thing. I should have just rented it. 12/20/2005 3:10:12 PM |