this iran shit gets real bad, and war breaks out with israel and the UN and the US etc. and it basically becomes WWIII and all shit hits the fan, that is about the only way on this earth i would go back into the army.

12/16/2005 9:15:05 AM

War with Iran? Thats definitely the time to sign up for the army!

12/16/2005 9:20:21 AM

well id believe in the cause and wed damn sure need the man power

12/16/2005 9:23:51 AM

WWIII is the Zionist plan. If anyone is interested, read up on Albert Pike's plan for 3 World Wars to bring about their ultimate agenda..ie, the new world order. He predicted to a tee the first two world wars, and it calls for a third world war between the "political zionists" (the j00ish state of "Israel" and her allies) and the Islamic World (and her allies...Russia and China?).

Here is part of Pike's Plan:

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""The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… http://www.sspx-schism.com/Pike.htm "

War is fomented by design. The Zionist lies to start the war in Iraq are prime example #1. And now the Zionists are trying to foment war with Iran. Can it be any more obvious?

12/16/2005 9:26:54 AM

The best hope for peace and stability is for Iran to demonstrate a nuclear capability asap. Learn to love deterrence.

12/16/2005 9:32:34 AM

if you get jammed up dont mention my name

12/16/2005 9:32:53 AM

LOL

12/16/2005 9:32:57 AM

deterrence wont work with iran becasue the president is a nutcase.

i was wondering how long it would take for salisbury boy to bite

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 9:35 AM. Reason : .]

12/16/2005 9:34:48 AM

Goddam salisburyboy, can you pleaes get the fuck out? You ruin this board.

12/16/2005 9:37:20 AM

I'll say what I want when I want, and I'm not gonna let pricks like you silence me.

12/16/2005 9:52:12 AM

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12/16/2005 11:46:35 AM

hahahaha wtf

12/16/2005 11:52:59 AM

Zionism=Nazism

Not only did the Zionists create and fund Nazism, but they now employ Nazi-esque tactics on the Palestinians--brutalizing them, stealing their land, and treating them like sub-humans. That is what the painting on the wall is in reference to.

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 11:58 AM. Reason : `]

12/16/2005 11:58:13 AM

oh I know that but I didnt know how many different little pictures you could pull out. You won bud.

12/16/2005 12:01:40 PM

yes the zionists created the nazis

12/16/2005 12:07:07 PM

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"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

If Pike died in 1891, how could he mention Nazism by name? Do you seriously expect us to believe that he orchestrated the rise of the Nazi party in Germany 50+ years beforehand?

If you do some real research about Albert Pike (try to stay away from your NWO sites) you would find that he isn't the grand global government architect that you make him out to be.

BTW, how does Pike tie in with Zionism?

12/16/2005 2:43:35 PM

I wouldn't go so far as to say that Zionism = Nazism, but its not something to simply shrug off, either.

There are documented instances in the late '20s and early '30s of Zionist leaders pledging to "make war on Germany" and that Zionists goals included "the complete destruction of the German State," etc.

That isn't making an excuse for the Holocaust, by any means.

I'm just saying, its worth thinking about.

Oh, and the US doesn't want war with Iran. Our goals include putting pressure on the current regime but we MAY allow them to go nuclear.

The goals for the US in the Middle East include political, social, and economic reform. That wasn't happening in Iraq because it was an evil dictatorship run by a guy who would never cooperate and killed his own citizens. As such... he's gone.

Iran is much, much different than Iraq. Iran elects its leaders somehow, and we are on much friendlier terms with the average Iranian citizen.... just like we will be with the Iraqi citizens.

We want Iran to get rich and prosper, which will give us TWO Arab countries that like us in the region.

We are going to play very, very nice with Iran, despite the fact that their leader is a hardliner.

For evidence:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051215...n_usa_europe_dc

"International pressure may increase on the regime in 2006 as it should," Fried told the American Enterprise Institute, a think tank with close ties to the Bush administration.

"But the world democracies should also reach out to the Iranian people. In addition to our efforts to deal with the nuclear challenge in 2006, the United States and Europe should assemble an agenda for hope for Iran," he said.

Fried said that while the United States and Europe have long discussed what to do about Iranian nuclear activities believed aimed at producing weapons, there is growing agreement the problem goes beyond that.

12/16/2005 3:40:35 PM

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"There are documented instances in the late '20s and early '30s of Zionist leaders pledging to "make war on Germany" and that Zionists goals included "the complete destruction of the German State," etc."

There was a boycott of German goods in the 1930s in response to German persecution of Jews. The fight was purely economic.

At least get the order right.

12/16/2005 3:48:16 PM

"Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon." - Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934 (also quoted in his book "The New Holy Alliance").

"We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany." - David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934 (quoted in "I Testify Against The Jews" by Robert Edward Edmondson, page 188 and "The Jewish War of Survival" by Arnold Leese, page 52).

"For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community, at each conference, in all our syndicates, and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will trigger a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand the complete destruction of Germany. Collectively and individually, the German nation is a threat to us Jews." - Vladimir Jabotinsky (founder of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934 (also quoted in "Histoire de l'Armée Allemande" by Jacques Benoist-Mechin, Vol. IV, p. 303).

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12/16/2005 3:50:22 PM

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"There was a boycott of German goods in the 1930s in response to German persecution of Jews. The fight was purely economic. At least get the order right."

Thanks for proving my point.

12/16/2005 3:55:16 PM

I don't know how your point relates to mine.

Zionists have been very active as separatists no matter what the reason.

I am not one who claims Jews = Nazis.

I'm just saying the sentiment is not so baseless as to shrug off.

There is evidence that might suggest wrongful action on the part of the Zionists.

12/16/2005 3:58:25 PM

You made an incorrect statement.

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"There are documented instances in the late '20s and early '30s of Zionist leaders pledging to "make war on Germany" and that Zionists goals included "the complete destruction of the German State," etc."

Jewish anger towards Germany was a result of an anti-semitic party coming to power.

12/16/2005 4:00:56 PM

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"We want Iran to get rich and prosper, which will give us TWO Arab countries that like us in the region."

Except that Iran isn't an Arab country.
And with the exception of Israel, nobody in the region is going to like your country any time soon.

12/16/2005 4:03:45 PM

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"Except that Iran isn't an Arab country."

Sorry, should have said Middle Eastern Country.

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"And with the exception of Israel, nobody in the region is going to like your country any time soon."

Well, its a subjective term.

They'll soon be "on our side" in terms of globalization.

Which to me means friends.

You had a decent point earlier.... deterrence. The US has already taken one nation state down. The next one we plan on helping UP.

My guess is our foreign policy is going to include treating Iran like one of the big kids. Which will include dropping sanctions, letting them have nuclear power, etc.

12/16/2005 4:13:27 PM