Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
When is it ok to not upload on bittorrent? I always thought there was some sort of norm that to get the benefits, one must risk a little bit... but bitcomet doesn't seem to support this idea.
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 1:45 AM. Reason : I changed my comma to an elipses] 12/20/2005 1:31:02 AM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
What a stupid thread.
12/20/2005 1:32:51 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
wait a minute
this thread is about the ethics of not uploading using bittorrent?
wow 12/20/2005 1:36:44 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
PLEASE STOP WITH THE ZINGERS 12/20/2005 1:38:00 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
ahaha
motherfucker got scared 12/20/2005 1:41:04 AM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
ibtl 12/20/2005 1:41:57 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
FIXED 12/20/2005 1:42:56 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
now its just incoherent
god damn you are stupid 12/20/2005 1:43:57 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Why is it incoherent? Not uploading is essentially cheating the system, isn't it? 12/20/2005 1:44:29 AM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
12/20/2005 1:44:38 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know
is that what you were saying
i can't read your fucking monkey english 12/20/2005 1:45:20 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
I no longer wonder how Ultra has managed to post approximately once every 5 minutes. 12/20/2005 1:46:30 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Ernie, congrats, you've contributed nothing. Thanks for your time and effort though. I can only hope you could have done something better with it but didn't. 12/20/2005 1:47:11 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I can only hope you could have done something better with it but didn't. " |
WHATEVER YOU SAY MONKEY MAN
jesus christ, learn some english
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 1:48 AM. Reason : ]12/20/2005 1:47:55 AM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
So basically you wanna know how ethical it is to download a whole bunch of illegal movies using BitTorrent while not uploading anything?
12/20/2005 1:48:31 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Make sure you edit your post after you fuck up trying to tell me I don't know English. 12/20/2005 1:48:44 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
yeah
i typed 'sa' instead of 'say'
that's a typo
you can't fucking compose a coherent sentence
not really the same thing, buddy 12/20/2005 1:49:49 AM |
moron All American 34191 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think ethics apply when you're stealing something.
Some trackers blacklist clients that don't upload though, and people who don't upload suck. Just limit your upload rate. 12/20/2005 1:50:38 AM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11611 Posts user info edit post |
bitcomet is becoming widely banned. Therefore, this won't me much of an issue before long. As for ethics, if you arn't uploading, you're just a leech and you should be burned off like one. That being said, if you're really worried about getting caught downloading something that you shouldn't, just learn how to use IRC and steal software the way the rest of the pros do. I got my software from IRC in the early days before napster, the resnet local network, and the plethora of filesharing software that followed. Guess what, IRC was there first and is still there now. 12/20/2005 1:50:56 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
I did use IRC when I first learned about the internet... around 1996 or so. I have since viewed it as a kind of lame way of getting stuff though, due to the whole queue system that seems prevalent. I don't like the fact that BitComet lets you cheat on the upload side of things, but it's hard to avoid doing so especially with limited bandwith devoted to that stream. 12/20/2005 1:53:00 AM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
You guys ever heard of Usenet? 12/20/2005 1:53:27 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Newsgroups don't work well with roadrunner and shit dissapears too fast. 12/20/2005 1:54:15 AM |
moron All American 34191 Posts user info edit post |
IRC is no better or worse than any other filesharing service as far as "safety". 12/20/2005 2:05:47 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahahah
You think the "pros" use fucking fservs and xdcc bots on IRC. AHAHaHAhA
And you think BitTorrent is better HAhaHAhAHA
And you don't even understand usenet HAHAAHAhAha
Dude, just stop trying to download illegal shit. Obviously you are too stupid to avoid getting caught for long, so just stop before you do. 12/20/2005 4:40:17 AM |
Wraith All American 27268 Posts user info edit post |
I thought most BitTorrent clients didn't even have an option to turn off uploads? I know that you have to upload while on Azureus or BitTornado.
btw doesn't PeerGuardian help?
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 7:10 AM. Reason : ] 12/20/2005 7:10:22 AM |
dFshadow All American 9507 Posts user info edit post |
paging OmarBadu to show you the size of his p33n and Grandmaster to confirm what Noen is claiming 12/20/2005 7:54:24 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
anything you can get to the popo can get to
bittorrent is even better because they can pull a list of all users off the trackers 12/20/2005 10:53:38 AM |
OmarBadu zidik 25073 Posts user info edit post |
i've been out of the scene for over 2yrs now - i agree with what noen said 12/20/2005 10:57:21 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
i like this thread 12/20/2005 11:28:27 AM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bittorrent is even better because they can pull a list of all users off the trackers" |
so list of users = list of ip addresses?12/20/2005 12:36:41 PM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
pretty much 12/20/2005 12:58:37 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
^ fag 12/20/2005 1:25:23 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18968 Posts user info edit post |
^idiot 12/20/2005 1:49:35 PM |
WolfmanNCSU All American 2226 Posts user info edit post |
12/20/2005 1:51:57 PM |
Wraith All American 27268 Posts user info edit post |
Does PeerGuardian help? 12/20/2005 1:56:30 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
nope.
Quote : | "so list of users = list of ip addresses?" |
yes. its very convenient for the MPAA/RIAA b/c they could probably just write a bot that pulls trackers off the most common sites, grabs the ips, and then zips off auto generated emails to the abuse@domain.com for whoever owns the ip.
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 4:39 PM. Reason : .]12/20/2005 4:38:14 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
i can only assume anyone whose name is on the ISP account associated with the IP that gets "caught" would receive a kind letter from their ISP telling them to stop. Last I heard the ISPs (TWC etc) aren't releasing their customers info...has this changed?
also just out of curiousity, why doesn't peer guardian work...I mean I always assumed it didn't and never installed it because of that, but why doesn't it work? 12/20/2005 5:42:33 PM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
They have to release information if they are subpeneaed. 12/20/2005 6:28:09 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder if this thread will be locked...i'm finding it mildly intringuing 12/20/2005 6:33:50 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
it should be locked for sheer stupidity, not for banned topics. 12/20/2005 6:35:38 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
good point 12/20/2005 6:37:28 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
when this guy
calls my thread stupid, I feel good 12/21/2005 1:31:26 AM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "btw doesn't PeerGuardian help?" |
nope, after reading how it works, it just limits the people you can connect to using predetermined lists.
[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 1:47 AM. Reason : eh]12/21/2005 1:46:42 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^^What? How does me being in Italy make ME look stupid?
Not to mention it was two years ago on a rough backpacking trip.
[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 1:56 AM. Reason : .] 12/21/2005 1:55:47 AM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of PeerGuardian or whatever it is. Do you guys really think it is possible to mask your true IP address on the Internet without a trustworthy proxy? 12/21/2005 2:26:57 AM |
moron All American 34191 Posts user info edit post |
I think PeerGaurdian just blocks known gov./shady IPs from connecting to your computer. They would technically have to actually connect to your computer and download something illegally for them to incriminate you, or something like that.
[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 2:42 AM. Reason : otherwise it's just circumstantial which is not enough to be charged] 12/21/2005 2:41:10 AM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
What if they just find your IP address on a tracker for a certain illegal file? Is that not proof enough? 12/21/2005 2:43:46 AM |
moron All American 34191 Posts user info edit post |
No, I don't think so. It's like on COPS when they are busting drug dealers or prostitutes, they can only bust them after a transaction is completed. Just merely being in their presence isn't enough.
[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 2:47 AM. Reason : i really don't know though] 12/21/2005 2:46:58 AM |
Raige All American 4386 Posts user info edit post |
Making a post about ethics using a program you most probably aren't using for legal purposes... that's just funny.
But for me, I just share a shitton of legal things ranging from fansubbed anime, hosting torrents like the Azureus download for others to use etc. I don't download many illegal things right now as most of the music out sucks, and the stuff i do like I can afford to buy online of course. I'm not paying $20 for a fucking music CD. $10 yes... 20 no. 12/21/2005 8:48:11 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
If peerguardian lets you connect to other people, then it will let the cops connect to you.
Banning "TEH GOV IPS" isn't going to do anything 12/21/2005 8:52:56 AM |