wednesday All American 646 Posts user info edit post |
"Ranking House Judiciary Democrat Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) has introduced a motion to censure President Bush and Vice President Cheney for providing misleading information to Congress in advance of the Iraq war, failing to respond to written questions and potential violations of international law, RAW STORY has learned.
The resolutions were quietly introduced Sunday evening along with a third resolution (HR 635) to create a Select Committee to investigate the administration’s intent to go to war prior to congressional authorization. The committee would also be charged with examining manipulation of pre-war intelligence, thwarting Congressional oversight and retaliatory attacks against critics. As part of this resolution, House Judiciary Democrats seek also to explore violations of international law as pertaining to detainee abuse and torture of prisoners of war.
RAW STORY acquired copies of the resolutions Tuesday. To view the resolution to create investigative body to determine if offenses are impeachable, click here; the resolution to censure President George W. Bush, click here; and the resolution to censure Vice President Dick Cheney, click here. Advertisement
The Select Committee seeks to subpoena the President and other members of the administration in hopes of ascertaining if impeachable offenses have been committed. Sources close to the Judiciary Committee indicate they believe this is the only avenue left after having written repeated letters requesting answers on matters ranging from the Downing Street Memos to the outing of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson. HR 635, which would create the select committee, could potentially recommend articles of impeachment against both the President and Vice President.
Republicans are not expected to support a Select Committee, nor are they expected to approve censure motions.
House Resolution 636 seeks to censure the President for failing to respond to repeated requests for information on pre-war intelligence, possible war crimes against detainees and violation of international law, and retaliatory action against critics of the administration. House Resolution 637 seeks censure the Vice President for the same alleged abuses of power and failure to respond to repeated requests for information and testimony.
A resolution of censure or a motion of censure is a formal congressional rebuke."
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Censure_motion_introduced_in_House_over_1220.html
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 2:08 PM. Reason : asdf] 12/20/2005 2:06:56 PM |
wednesday All American 646 Posts user info edit post |
wtf
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 2:08 PM. Reason : double post] 12/20/2005 2:07:35 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I have a feeling nothing will come of this... but we'll have to see, I guess. 12/20/2005 3:21:21 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
As nothing should. If they censure the president, then so should kerry and the other senate democrats (esp those on the intelligence committee) for the same thing.
christ. 12/20/2005 3:42:25 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Bush at least deserves an investigation (which is what they want to do), and see if he really warrants a censure (for fabricating intel, or whatever). After what Clinton went through, it's the least they can do. 12/20/2005 3:50:59 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Clinton actually lied. There is no proof that Bush was even close to lying. And if he is censured, then Bill should be censured all over again for bombing Iraq using the same intel.
And to prove that Bush did lie, please supply more than a salisburyboy thread. 12/20/2005 3:53:11 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "After what Clinton went through, it's the least they can do. " |
thanks for being honest. dems dont really care about this. they just want revenge for clintons impeachment. sorry to tell you but nothing will come of this12/20/2005 4:00:00 PM |
Johnny Swank All American 1889 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There is no proof that Bush was even close to lying." |
Hence the need for an investigation. You do realize that he's never been under oath during his tenure in office, don't you?
This is not going to get anywhere, but if it leads to Bush's ass being put on the stand so much the better.12/20/2005 4:05:22 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Clinton was put in a position to lie, because he was investigated for a blow job. Bush hasn't had his chance yet to legally lie. There's no "blue dress" now, but there won't be unless there is an investigation. There's plenty of circumstantial evidence that he meant to be misleading, between the stuff Powell's aides have said, the Downing St. Memos, and common sense.
^^ That's one aspect true, but it also shows the Republican's willingness to give their guy a pass on what could be a MUCH more serious crime.
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 4:08 PM. Reason : jm] 12/20/2005 4:05:38 PM |
JennMc All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Come on, do you really think they show senators the same and all the information that they show the President?
This administration took advantage of American's fear of future attacks and ran with it (Chicken Little effect). Whether they did it in good faith makes a huge difference and should be investigated. 12/20/2005 9:15:03 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
nice of your ill-informed ass to show up. 12/20/2005 9:50:02 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
if the democrats get the congress back, which they only need a few seats for, you can bet there will be an impeachment 12/20/2005 9:58:04 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
should be interesting
nobody should be allowed to fuck up this bad this many times
i mean seriously, the rest of us would've been shitcanned a long time ago
but president cheney would SUCK 12/20/2005 10:01:21 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
YEAH, but cheney's being censured as well.
Quote : | "motion to censure President Bush and Vice President Cheney for providing misleading information to Congress in advance of the Iraq war, failing to respond to written questions and potential violations of international law," |
12/20/2005 10:48:35 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
i was referring to impeachment.
censuring doesn't really do shit. 12/20/2005 10:51:08 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
10:1 this doesn't go anywhere. 12/20/2005 11:09:19 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ it probably won't, but it only needs a little bit of press to keep Bush looking bad. 12/20/2005 11:13:16 PM |
kdawg(c) Suspended 10008 Posts user info edit post |
^especially his "numbers" are going up after the Iraq elections...the Dems are thinking of anything and everything to keep the press off of the elections 12/20/2005 11:22:58 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Shouldn't this have been done like, I dunno, at least a year ago? Day late, dollar short. 12/21/2005 3:29:52 AM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
I absolutely love how bitter and hate-filled Democrats are. Democrats think that if they just yell a little louder, if they just talk a little nastier, if they just spit a little more on our troops, that people will "come around" and it will be Vietnam and Watergate all over again.
Newsflash: Democrats are in the minority. AND, as long as your tactics are simply obstruction and mud slinging, you will remain in the minority. I will grant you that there are a bunch of people in this country that are stupid enough to believe your crap, but those people are so stupid they can't find their way to the polls. That is why you have to vote for them...I guess. 12/21/2005 9:25:10 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
aw, that's so cute broad generalizations about democrats! 12/21/2005 9:27:16 AM |
JennMc All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Because the Rove tactics of smear and destroy those who question are really helping the White House and keeping the country together
Look at Bush's polls. Either there are a whole lot of liberals or Republicans are disheartened as well. 12/21/2005 9:41:05 AM |
MathFreak All American 14478 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And if he is censured, then Bill should be censured all over again for bombing Iraq using the same intel." |
God, how in the fuck do you people get to college?
Clinton acted on the intelligence that (prior to his strikes) the areas designated for bombing had some WMD related things.
Maybe he was actually right AND the strikes did a good job.12/21/2005 10:29:46 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
or maybe not
I fear the fact that YOU'RE teaching people 12/21/2005 10:31:20 AM |
MathFreak All American 14478 Posts user info edit post |
Or may be not. At any case, that was a different situation that arose in response to a different intel.
You should be. Your only hope is a nation full of idiots. 12/21/2005 10:34:51 AM |