there's just something not right about the potential pattern

12/21/2005 12:52:45 AM

doubtful there will be 3 bushes

12/21/2005 12:53:45 AM

Where'd the third Bush come from?

12/21/2005 12:54:14 AM

What third Bush?

12/21/2005 12:57:26 AM

there should be a rule that relatives of presidents cant be president or something.

this shit is wackofied

12/21/2005 1:02:03 AM

Clinton II is a long-shot

I mean really, a woman president? In America? During "wartime"?

doubtful.

12/21/2005 1:02:47 AM

Supposedly Dubya has a niece that'd be ideal presidential material when she hit the right age. Or maybe not. I seem to recall hearing it somewhere, but my memory isn't that great. And I'm plastered.

12/21/2005 1:26:23 AM

but, gov mark warner isn't a member of the clinton family

12/21/2005 1:30:48 AM

i dont think id vote for hillary
maybe i would, im not sure... but i hope its not a choice i have to make

12/21/2005 1:30:53 AM

I still think that Hillary is the polar opposite of McCain in terms of their political situations. That is, she might breeze through the primaries, then be rejected by the general population, whereas McCain would probably meet insurmountable resistance in the primaries but would otherwise be welcomed with open arms by the people.

12/21/2005 1:33:20 AM

and mccain has a penis

12/21/2005 1:35:42 AM

^some think that's not something different between those two

12/21/2005 1:37:51 AM

^^^ I agree.

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 1:38 AM. Reason : ]

12/21/2005 1:38:19 AM

nice execution

12/21/2005 1:38:37 AM

If Sen. McCain could get the GOP nod, we could just save ourselves the trouble and not even bother having the general election, because he'd whoop it on like Reagan on Mondale (ESPECIALLY if Sen. Clinton was his opponent. It might set a new record.)

but...that's a big "if".

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 2:58 AM. Reason : because the GOP is fucking stupid a lot of the time]

12/21/2005 2:57:47 AM

well, if the true conservatives are as united as they claim, wont they be organized enough to stop the hated "RINO"?

personally, i think McCain is the only candidate that could stem the tide of extreme political dichotomy right now.

12/21/2005 3:00:06 AM

haha, the GOP is hardly united. The GOP is a loose conglomeration of different factions who only associate at all for one reason--they aren't Democrats. To simplify, it's the Religious Right, and everyone else who has to cozy up to them to get anything done.

and I've never understood why McCain has been labeled as a RINO. Actually, I do, but it's not because of his ideology. Sen. McCain is pretty firmly conservative--it's just that he notoriously bucks the party line and/or publically criticizes fellow Republicans (with his campaign finance reform support being one of the things that a lot of Republicans really hate. For example, my dad will tell you "I think it's a good idea in that something needs to be done, but I think it will hurt the GOP, and for that reason alone, I wouldn't vote for McCain in a primary.)

12/21/2005 3:10:18 AM

McCain is a conservative, in the early 90s sense of the world (small gov.).

I've never heard him termed a "RINO" though (did you mean rhino, like the animal?).

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 3:15 AM. Reason : wait... Republican In Name Only]

12/21/2005 3:14:27 AM

12/21/2005 3:47:25 AM

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"Supposedly Dubya has a niece that'd be ideal presidential material when she hit the right age. Or maybe not. I seem to recall hearing it somewhere, but my memory isn't that great. And I'm plastered."

Nephew (named also George Bush... middle name Prescott). He's Jeb's son. He's an incredibly dynamic speaker and more charismatic than anyone in the Bush family. He's still young... I think in his mid-twenties. If he hasn't graduated already, he's in Law School. I saw him on tv doing speeches for his uncle during the campaign. If the "Bush" name doesn't kill him, he'll be President one day.

His niece, Lauren Bush, daughter of the lesser known of the W siblings, is HOT AS HELL! She's a Ralph Lauren model. Incredibly hot. I'd vote for her.

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 6:05 AM. Reason : .]

12/21/2005 6:04:45 AM

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"moron: McCain is a conservative, in the early 90s sense of the world"

If by "90s" you meant "1890s", then [agreed]...

12/21/2005 9:08:16 AM

which one is the latino?

12/21/2005 9:09:57 AM

^^^ Give him some time to bump some lines, get an alcohol addiction, and run a few companies into the ground. We'll see how he looks then.

12/21/2005 11:15:33 AM

Shit, are you kidding wednesday? That's a resume booster in the Bush family! With stats like that, he'd be primed to be President one day!

Quote :

"which one is the latino?"

George P. Bush, the one I spoke about above.

12/21/2005 11:30:13 AM

oh then yes

yes he will be president some day

dude is gonna be a powerhouse

12/21/2005 11:31:50 AM

He's incredible. He's got a charm that beats all of our previous presidents (including the charismatic James K. Polk).

In all seriousness, if the kid doens't end up like his sister (the crack whore) he'll be our first latino President.

And I'm voting for him.

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 11:34 AM. Reason : .]

12/21/2005 11:33:43 AM

Dream ticket:

Mccain/Clinton.

Iron balls executive branch + Ole Bill as court jester..

12/21/2005 1:46:39 PM

i'd also like to reiterate:

Quote :

"but, gov mark warner isn't a member of the clinton family"

12/21/2005 4:22:09 PM

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"McCain is a conservative, in the early 90s sense of the world (small gov.)."

Fuck no. That campaign finance reform shit has permanently removed him from my window of consideration.

12/21/2005 6:12:27 PM

what's your issue with it?

12/21/2005 6:13:48 PM

I'd imagine it's that whole denial of free speech thing.

12/21/2005 8:21:02 PM

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"If by "90s" you meant "1890s", then [agreed]... "

I DID mean 1890s

12/21/2005 8:29:03 PM

In the next election, I might give a write-in vote to Darryl Willie.

12/21/2005 9:01:58 PM

^^^

?



what do you mean? i thought he just wanted to curtail questionable financing practices.

12/21/2005 9:04:49 PM

The idea is that telling people who they can give their money to in support is restricting their free speech.

I think it's ludicrous, and, if not, it's acceptable.

12/21/2005 9:11:18 PM

ah, gotcha.

yeah, point taken, but i agree. it's probably the lesser of two evils.

12/21/2005 9:13:15 PM

no, because it then puts free speech only in the hands of those who can start PACs and 457s

like moveon etc

12/21/2005 9:47:22 PM

Yep, it makes it almost impossible for a dark-horse candidate to raise any money. 99% incumbancy rate! Bravo! This is a MUCH better system. All that electorial competition was too worisome for our representatives. </sarcasm>

Sorry, as far as issues go, this is one of the only ones I get fanatical about.

12/21/2005 10:31:08 PM

Colon Powell vs Clinton in an Election that would result in a change of some sort..... but I think Mccain will get the Nod and will be our next president

12/22/2005 6:05:02 PM

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"99% incumbancy rate"

has a lot more to do with gerrymandering than with campaign finance

12/22/2005 6:06:17 PM

McCain is probably going to be the lesser of evils in the next GOP primary

ah well at least he will get rid of steroids in baseball

12/22/2005 6:25:21 PM

gov mark warner

(at this point; its seriously going to ruin my decade if he doesn't run)

12/22/2005 7:12:05 PM

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"theDuke866: what do you mean? i thought he just wanted to curtail questionable financing practices."

And ban all political advertising. That's a bigger part than the campaign finance issues.

Apparently the man is corruptible, so much so that he had to introduce legislation re-writing the Bill of Rights to make sure some big bad special interest didn't buy him off...

I do hope he wins the primary though, so we won't have to listen to the McCain circle-jerk anymore

12/22/2005 8:21:42 PM

so TGD is not a fan of campaign finance reform

nice

12/22/2005 8:32:07 PM

Well its certainly done a good job cleaning up our electoral process, just look at the 2004 race.

12/22/2005 8:42:12 PM

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"Woodfoot: so TGD is not a fan of campaign finance reform nice"

was that a surprise? I thought all of us evil corporate whores on teh R1ght opposed it?

12/22/2005 8:54:11 PM

clinton again = joke

12/22/2005 9:08:39 PM

The problem with Bush's nephew is that his name is George Bush.

Thats gonna be tough to overcome if he has political ambitions. History won't be kind to the current administration.

12/23/2005 1:53:20 AM