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Via Panther.com

Pro Bowlers: quarterback Jake Delhomme, defensive end Julius Peppers, wide receiver Steve Smith, and guard Mike Wahle.

First alternate: punter Jason Baker.

Second alternates: special teams Karl Hankton, linebacker Dan Morgan, and Steve Smith as a returner.

Third alternates: cornerback Ken Lucas and safety Mike Minter.

12/21/2005 2:49:19 PM

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who made it as CB? and first and second alternate? i'm kinda surprised lucas is all the way down at 3rd and gamble isnt even on there, but then i probably just havent paid enough attention to CBs this season. i figure ronde barber is up there somewhere, but i dont know who else after that.

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 2:52 PM. Reason : .]

12/21/2005 2:52:09 PM

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"Pro Bowlers: quarterback Jake Delhomme"


Wow NFC quarterbacks are no good. I like the Panthers and all but if he is one of the best in the NFC, the QB position has lost a lot.

12/21/2005 2:53:24 PM

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How the hell did Delhomme make the Pro Bowl team

12/21/2005 2:55:49 PM

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About 5 years ago the NFC was always Aikman, Young, Favre. Now look who they are.

12/21/2005 2:59:40 PM

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hahaha I bet Delhomme took Vick's automatic hype spot


12/21/2005 3:15:06 PM

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^No, Vick made it as well, I checked, haha, can't believe he made it.

Vick made it and Eli Manning didn't...that's just weird looking at their seasons. I figure Hasselback got one of the spots as well, but there's no telling.

12/21/2005 3:24:52 PM

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

12/21/2005 3:26:26 PM

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"Vick made it and Eli Manning didn't"


what in the fuck

12/21/2005 3:31:13 PM

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eli had the number one passing stats in the whole nfc last time I checked

12/21/2005 3:35:45 PM

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That's pretty ridiculous. Eli led all NFC quarterbacks in fan voting; guess that shows how much the fan voting really matters.

Manning is a THIRD alternate. Who in the hell else is in front of him I wonder?

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 3:40 PM. Reason : ...]

12/21/2005 3:37:44 PM

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pro bowls are picked by players, right?

12/21/2005 3:41:37 PM

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^^whoh I was about to blame the fans for this BS

I expect more from the actual professionals

12/21/2005 3:45:18 PM

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Chris Simms!

12/21/2005 3:58:48 PM

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Delhomme and Vick made it, and Eli didn't? That's not right.

12/21/2005 4:01:35 PM

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they should send manning, hassel..., and brunnel/bledsoe

12/21/2005 4:16:26 PM

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How the fuck did Vick or Delhomme make it? At least Delhomme is on a good team. What a joke, oh yea, i forgot, VICK >= god

12/21/2005 4:17:24 PM

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salisbury is still Vick's bitch

his reasoning was basically: vick still scares defensive coordinators

12/21/2005 4:18:37 PM

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"About 5 years ago the NFC was always Aikman, Young, Favre. Now look who they are."

That was also when the NFC won 13 straight Super Bowls. The AFC is now definitely a Quarterback Conference.

12/21/2005 4:28:34 PM

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Heres is the complete list
AFC
Offense
Pos. Player Team Stats
WR Chris Chambers Dolphins 72 rec, 992 yds, 9 TDs
WR Marvin Harrison Colts 80 rec, 1,127 yds, 12 TDs
WR Chad Johnson Bengals 84 rec, 1,260 yds, 8 TDs
WR Rod Smith Broncos 79 rec, 1003 yds, 6 TDs
OT Willie Anderson Bengals 5th Pro Bowl
OT Jonathan Ogden Ravens 10th Pro Bowl selection
OT Willie Roaf Chiefs 11th Pro Bowl selection
OG Alan Faneca Steelers 5th Pro Bowl selection
OG Will Shields Chiefs 11th Pro Bowl selection
OG Brian Waters Chiefs 2nd Pro Bowl selection
C Jeff Hartings Steelers 7th Pro Bowl selection
C Jeff Saturday Colts
TE Antonio Gates Chargers 82 rec, 1,026 yds, 9 TDs
TE Tony Gonzalez Chiefs 68 rec, 788 yds, 2 TDs
QB Tom Brady Patriots 313-493, 3888 yds, 23 TDs
QB Peyton Manning Colts 295-439, 3,626 yds, 28 TDs
QB Carson Palmer Bengals 315-465, 3516 yds, 30 TDs
RB Edgerrin James Colts 347 att, 1465 yds, 13 TDs
RB Larry Johnson Chiefs 278 att, 1418 yds, 16 TDs
RB LaDainian Tomlinson Chargers 306 att., 1323 yds, 17 TDs
FB Lorenzo Neal Chargers 2nd Pro Bowl selection

Defense
Pos. Player Team Stats
DE Dwight Freeney Colts 10.5 sacks
DE Jason Taylor Dolphins 11 sacks
DE Derrick Burgess Raiders 14 sacks
DT Richard Seymour Patriots 40 tackles, 3 sacks
DT Marcus Stroud Jaguars 40 tackles, 1 sacks
DT Jamal Williams Chargers 44 tackles
ILB Zach Thomas Dolphins 141 tackles, 2 sacks
ILB Cato June Colts 102 tackles, 5 INTs
ILB Al Wilson Broncos 68 tackles, 3 sacks
OLB Shawne Merriman Chargers 46 tackles, 9 sacks
OLB Joey Porter Steelers 50 tackles, 8 sacks
CB Champ Bailey Broncos 53 tackles, 8 INTs
CB Ty Law Jets 6 INTs
CB Deltha O'Neal Bengals 61 tackles, 10 INTs
SS Troy Polamalu Steelers 77 tackles, 3 sacks
FS John Lynch Broncos 51 tackles, 2 INTs
FS Bob Sanders Colts 92 tackles, 1 INT

Specialists
Pos. Player Team Stats
Punter Brian Moorman Bills 45.5 yard average
Kicker Shayne Graham Bengals 25-29 FGs, 44-44 PATs
Returner Jerome Mathis Texans 2 return TDs
Special teamer Hanik Milligan Chargers

NFC
WR Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals 92 rec, 1,236 yds, 8 TDs
WR Torry Holt Rams 88 rec, 1,128 yds, 8 TDs
WR Santana Moss Redskins 75 rec, 1,240 yds, 6 TDs
WR Steve Smith Panthers 93 rec., 1,414 yds, 11 TDs
OT Walter Jones Seahawks 6th Pro Bowl
OT Chris Samuels Redskins 3rd Pro Bowl
OT Orlando Pace Rams 7th Pro Bowl
OG Larry Allen Cowboys 10th Pro Bowl
OG Steve Hutchinson Seahawks 3rd Pro Bowl
OG Mike Wahle Panthers 1st Pro Bowl
C LeCharles Bentley Saints 2nd Pro Bowl
C Olin Kreutz Bears 5th Pro Bowl
TE Alge Crumpler Falcons 58 rec., 793 yds, 5 TDs
TE Jeremy Shockey Giants 63 rec., 873 yds, 7 TDs
QB Jake Delhomme Panthers 234-384, 2,998 yds, 15 TDs
QB Matt Hasselbeck Seahawks 271-420, 3,215 yds, 22 TDs
QB Michael Vick Falcons 183-337, 2,136 yds, 13 TDs
RB Shaun Alexander Seahawks 329 att, 1,668 yds, 24 TDs
RB Tiki Barber Giants 313 att., 1,577 yds, 8 TDs
RB Warrick Dunn Falcons 259 att, 1,328 yds, 3 TDs
FB Mack Strong Seahawks 1st Pro Bowl

Defense
Pos. Player Team Stats
DE Julius Peppers Panthers 7.5 sacks
DE Michael Strahan Giants 11.5 sacks
DE Osi Umenyiora Giants 12.5 sacks
DT Rod Coleman Falcons 9.5 sacks
DT Tommie Harris Bears 3 sacks
DT Shaun Rogers Lions 5.5 sacks
OLB Lance Briggs Bears 100 tackles
OLB Keith Brooking Falcons 95 tackles
OLB Derrick Brooks Bucs 102 tackles
ILB Jeremiah Trotter Eagles 106 tackles
ILB Brian Urlacher Bears 115 tackles, 6 sacks
CB Ronde Barber Bucs 5 INTs, 19 pass breakups
CB DeAngelo Hall Falcons 5 INTs
CB Nathan Vasher Bears 8 INTs
FS Darren Sharper Vikings 8 INTs
SS Mike Brown Bears 72 tackles, 3 INTs
SS Roy Williams Cowboys 76 tackles

Specialists
Pos. Player Team Stats
Punter Josh Bidwell Bucs 40.3 net avg.
Kicker Neil Rackers Cardinals 36-37 FGs, 16-16 PATs
Returner Koren Robinson Vikings 26.6 average, 1 TD
Special teamer David Tyree Giants 1st Pro Bowl

12/21/2005 4:59:31 PM

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YAO MING WILL MAKE THE ALLSTAR TEAM FOR THE REST OF HIS CAREER. NOT ONLY THAT, HE WILL BE THE LEADING VOTE GETTER EVERY< SINGLE< FUCKING PAINFUL< UNINSPIRED YEAR OF HIS NBA SHELF LIFE.

THANKS CHINESE FANS.

YOA MEEN?

/NBA, NON-APPLICABLE TO NFL RANT

12/21/2005 5:14:47 PM

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"Happy Birthday, Kenny"

12/21/2005 5:18:23 PM

Alfgard
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^^agreed, he'll be out with this toe injury for like 6 weeks and all of china will still vote him in

12/21/2005 5:20:21 PM

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I think its pretty unbelievable how Larry Johnson is near the league lead in rushing yards after hardly playing the first 6 or 7 weeks of the season

12/21/2005 5:26:49 PM

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yeah i think they said that he was 4th in rushing and started just 7 games

12/21/2005 5:31:01 PM

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at least voters will finally notice elton brand this year...

12/21/2005 5:31:15 PM

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^all star or not, plugging for dukies on this board is considered rude and in poor taste

12/21/2005 6:21:46 PM

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^gg It amazes me how many dook fans didn't actually go to dook. This is TWW, not Walmart.

12/21/2005 8:25:40 PM

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"SS Troy Polamalu Steelers 77 tackles, 3 sacks"


one of my fav. players . . . dude is everywhere on the field, within like a yard of almost every tackle. Thats when he isn't making the tackle.

12/21/2005 9:07:36 PM

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me and my roomate were just looking and noticed jon vilma was not on there. He is leading the league in tackles. Is that not good enough?

12/21/2005 9:38:46 PM

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What a surprise!!!!!!!!

The players picked VicK??????


I wonder why...

Perhaps its because he's better than the other QB's in the NFC (although Hasslebeck had a better season)

Delhomme over Eli is pretty questionable though. BUt Eli had some pretty rough games too...

12/21/2005 11:35:57 PM

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I went to the Academy with Mike Wahle...if you've ever wanted a good example of what steroids will do to a guy, he's a prime example. Came in as a scrawny WR and "left" early to be drafted as an O-line

12/21/2005 11:43:10 PM

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Vilma should atleast be an alternate

12/22/2005 12:18:19 AM

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"How the hell did Delhomme make the Pro Bowl team "

12/22/2005 12:39:25 AM

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^Looking at stats and team records, Delhomme deserved to be on that team MUCH more than Vick did. So you should rephrase that...

"How the hell did Delhomme Vick make the Pro Bowl team? "

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 12:45 AM. Reason : .]

12/22/2005 12:45:31 AM

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vilma and the jets should be raising hell, this is a huge snub

12/22/2005 12:46:38 AM

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^^ aye

12/22/2005 12:57:39 AM

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usually, players on the losing teams don't get selected to pro bowls. Some players also made it to the pro bowl based on reputation alone. (Larry Allen and Roy Williams)

12/22/2005 1:01:59 AM

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Yeah Vilma deserves to be in the pro bowl, he had a solid season. But alas it's true, losing teams usually get snubbed, even if there are a few bright spots that deserve recognition.

12/22/2005 1:12:24 AM

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rallydurham loves vick flavored cock

i liked that nfc defense a lot better under its former name, the chicago bears defense

12/22/2005 1:20:31 AM

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How bout that dude from the colts? If anything he got snubbed. Telling your friends and fam that you made the pb, then woops. pretty fucked up if ya ask me. They owe him for that. The league that is.

12/22/2005 1:29:24 AM

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you mean reggie wayne? he's overrated in my opinion. He certainly gonna cash in in free agency due to playing opposite of Marvin Harrison.

12/22/2005 2:09:44 AM

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No, tarik glenn, the tackle. He was just on sportscenter, dungy was pretty pissed about it

12/22/2005 2:19:30 AM

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I wonder if Vick made it b/c of his name value...but i agree Manning has put up better #'s!

12/22/2005 2:26:42 AM

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peppers pretty much got in on name value too

I'd say Torry Holt too, he didnt have his best season

guess if I'm going to call Vick out on it, I can't be using double standards

12/22/2005 2:29:41 AM

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"Looking at stats"


Well that was your first mistake.


Delhomme was clearly not as good as Vick this year. No one would argue that.

12/22/2005 2:36:34 AM

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^Well how the heck should we determine who makes the pro bowl?!?

If you look at stats: Delhomme was better
If you look at team wins: Delhomme was better

Jake has more yards, more TD's, a couple more INT's, better QB rating, better completion percentage, and less sacks. Heck, add Vick's rushing yards to passing yards and he still doesn't have as many total yards as Jake.

You use to say that winning was all that mattered, and this year Vick hasn't won as many as Jake. I'm not a big Jake supporter, but I don't see anything that justifies Vick making the Pro Bowl period, let alone over Jake or Eli Manning. What reasoning do you have behind that?

Vick made it on hype and name alone, and NO ONE can argue that.

howevermany^
Yeah they screwed that tackle from Indy. If you tell a guy he makes it, and then something screws up, then you should let BOTH of them be on it.

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 9:51 AM. Reason : .]

12/22/2005 9:50:34 AM

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^ oh okay so I guess Vick's rushing TD's don't count...

And rushing yards are worth more than passing yards (I established this a long time ago) so don't even try to add passing yards + rushing yards and act like that's an accurate representation.

Vick was much better than Delhomme this year, thats plain as day.


If you didn't see that, then you didn't watch the games. No one in their right mind would argue that Delhomme had a good season.

Vick did more to help his team win than Jake did.

Put Jake Delhomme with a disgraceful defense and no WR's and let's see how many wins he gets. I guarandamntee you he isn't 8-5 like Vick.

BTW, subtract one of Delhomme's "victories" because we would have lost the Detroit game had Weinke not come in to rescue his ass.

12/22/2005 9:59:48 AM

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I got news for all you panther haters out there....Jake Delhomme is one of the best QB's in the NFC. Are the AFC QB's better? No question. But the fact remains Jake earned his spot. Eli Manning maybe should have been picked over Vick. However, 14 of Mannings 16 Interceptions have come in the red zone and has a QB rating of 75. Not very impressive if you ask me.

The person who was ripped off the most was Ken Lucus. He should have been way higher than 3rd alt. Does anyone really think DeAngelo Hall should have gotten the spot over Lucus?

12/22/2005 10:06:20 AM

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Eli did NOT deserve to make it. He is a strictly pocket passer (therefore doesn't add anything else like Vick does) and his rating was ~75. Hell, Drew Bledsoe [and hell throw in Brunell if you want to as well] deserved it before Eli Manning did if you want to look purely at numbers.

** Oh and for Ty Law to make it instead of Vilma from the Jets is crap.

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 10:11 AM. Reason : f]

12/22/2005 10:09:09 AM

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