The ESPN power 16 for NCAA Bball has a vote up with 20 teams you can rank and since we are #18 in the country we ARE NOT even on it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/listranker?id=418

zero respect once again...Don't worry the Tarholes are on there.

12/23/2005 9:49:48 AM

some of the experts power 16 have us on there

12/23/2005 9:54:56 AM

Okay, but why should 18 be in the Power 16? When we are 16, then we should be there.

12/23/2005 10:42:10 AM

I just filled the thing out so I could put UNC and Maryland last


And we're not getting respect becuase we don't deserve it quite yet. We keep winning and actually win vs. good teams, we'll get respect.


We beat GW and the birds will start chirping. Our best win yet is ND... not super-impressive

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12/23/2005 10:51:56 AM

ND isnt our best win

Miami and Alabama are better wins than ND

12/23/2005 11:06:04 AM

Miami is like 6-5

Bama sucks this year. They were highly thought of preseason, but they're 5-4


Notre Dame is what... 7-2?



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12/23/2005 11:09:42 AM

notre dame is 6-2 and they beat now 5-4 bama in tuscaloosa...

12/23/2005 11:10:48 AM

I am referring to quality of play in our games.

Bama and Miami gave us both better games than ND

[Edited on December 23, 2005 at 11:12 AM. Reason : *]

12/23/2005 11:12:17 AM

stop thinking we deserve respect

12/23/2005 11:22:01 AM

^^ that doesn't mean anything.

VT gave duke their toughest and best game of the season, should that make VT a more quality win than beating Texas?

12/23/2005 11:25:41 AM

no because the VT game was at duke and they sucked it up that game

Both the Miami AND Bama games are better wins because of the quality of play we faced. We had to deal with fast guard play, good shooters, and tough post players. We had to fight off numerous runs from both of those teams and we had to play one in a hostile environment.

ND laid an egg against us on a neutral court and we were never really in danger of losing that game.

12/23/2005 11:35:42 AM

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"ND laid an egg against us on a neutral court "

exactly.

They're a better team than how they played against us, whereas Miami and Alabama played as well as their ability allowed. Had the officiating been anywhere near fair last night, it would have easily been a 20 point victory for us.

Ultimately, ND is a better basketball team than either Miami or Alabama and hence it's a more quality win.

12/23/2005 11:43:05 AM

i think you and i have different interpretations of quality.

beating a team that lays an egg against us and not being in danger of losing the game vs beating a team that played very well against us in a hostile environment where all aspects of our game were tested.

I think the latter is a much better win in terms of quality.

it doesnt matter how good the team we beat back then is NOW, it matters how good they were when we played them.

12/23/2005 11:46:06 AM

my top 10 were on point with the realtime ones

12/23/2005 12:01:57 PM

I hope we blister GW.

12/23/2005 12:07:57 PM