rblee Veteran 276 Posts user info edit post |
Is it worth it? 12/24/2005 3:05:15 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
best post all year 12/24/2005 3:11:27 PM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
worth it - NO
Nice - Yes 12/24/2005 3:13:57 PM |
alexwbush All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
if I'm not mistaken you'd also need an HDTV tuner (unless your tv has it) and digital cable/satellite? 12/24/2005 4:50:03 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
imo, there arent enough channels in HD for me to justify spending a couple grand on a new tv. give it a few years, and there will be many more channels, and cheaper hd tvs. 12/24/2005 4:51:40 PM |
wednesday All American 646 Posts user info edit post |
High def dvds are going to make HDTV a neccessity for me. 12/24/2005 5:26:52 PM |
wolftrap All American 1260 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if I'm not mistaken you'd also need an HDTV tuner (unless your tv has it) and digital cable/satellite?" |
yes you need an hdtv tuner. most of the smaller hdtv's do not have a built-in tuner http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6305617-1.html
but for over-the-air broadcasts you do not need a special antenna http://www.google.com/search?q=%22there+is+no+such+thing+as+an+hdtv+antenna%22
I won't buy an hdtv until there is a dtv/tuner package that is not some kludgy all-in-wonder thing12/24/2005 5:55:34 PM |
hydro290 All American 1703 Posts user info edit post |
high definition makes regular tv and dvds look like shit. 12/24/2005 8:04:00 PM |
moron All American 34191 Posts user info edit post |
DVDs actually look better on HDTVs. 12/24/2005 8:35:20 PM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
not really. 12/24/2005 11:57:37 PM |
moron All American 34191 Posts user info edit post |
only if you're stupid 12/25/2005 12:21:52 AM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
I have a 22 inch Tau flat standard definition tv and a Syntax 32" HD LCD-TV. Standard definition television looks somewhat better on the tube tv, but dvd's look significantly better on the HDTV. smaller black bars are also nice since HD aspect ratio is closer to cinematic widescreen. Overall the slightly worse NTSC picture (it is being blown up over alot more real-estate) is a fine trade off for a bigger, lighter, brighter, and better tv that gives me astounding dvd quality and doubles as a huge-ass monitor. 12/25/2005 1:23:16 AM |
S All American 658 Posts user info edit post |
IMO, EDTV > HDTV (http://www.projectorcentral.com/video_signals.htm)
both are in the tier of HD realm, but the quality difference of EDTV (480i/p) and HDTV(720+) is not worth the price difference ($500-1000). EDTVs can receive all HD signals, although any above 480i/p will be compressed. Also, I believe most DVD players by default utilize 480i/p, so EDTVs would have the advantage here since it's naturally fit, whereas HDTVs would have to expand the image. But like someone said...
Quote : | "imo, there arent enough channels in HD for me to justify spending a couple grand on a new tv. give it a few years, and there will be many more channels, and cheaper hd tvs." |
Unless you know you are capable of receiving an HD signal of channels YOU WANT, getting an ED/HD-TV will essentially equate to getting a normal TV, although it will make your DVDs look very nice. BTW you also need component cables (Y/Pr/Pb) or better (HDMI or DVI) for a solid HD signal. Avoid composite cables (S-Video, R/W/Y, or coaxial) if you can help it.
Of more importance is deciding between Plasma vs. LCD...
[Edited on December 26, 2005 at 5:14 AM. Reason : -]12/26/2005 5:01:59 AM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
i have a 47" panasonic widescreen hdtv and dvds, hd cable/dvr, x360, xbox, and gamecube are all incredible...i can't hardly watch regular tv anymore...
it's worth it if you watch a lot of tv or movies 12/26/2005 5:11:34 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^^HAHAHA...are you seroius? more like its not worth dishing out any money for EDtv, i'd rather have a standard tv than a over priced standard tv (edtv)
you obviously have never experienced anything in HD (720p or higher) or you wouldn't have said that...but its cool, if you wasted your money on an EDtv and want to justify it, we'll play along. 12/26/2005 5:40:27 AM |
S All American 658 Posts user info edit post |
$(HDTV - EDTV) > $(EDTV - SDTV) Q(HDTV - EDTV) < Q(EDTV - SDTV)
[Edited on December 26, 2005 at 6:31 AM. Reason : gg] 12/26/2005 6:11:41 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
ko 12/26/2005 6:17:20 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19634 Posts user info edit post |
Shit, it ain't like they run a few grand anymore. I've been saving up for about a 32"-34" widescreen HD-TV. They run from 700 to a grand for an HD set in this size range. I will hopefully have it by the end of next month. I can hardly wait to get the HD box and setup from Dish sent in and hook that bitch up for my X-Box (and hopefully soon, my 360) 12/26/2005 6:52:00 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^^^which means
HDtv>>>>>EDtv
(gg) 12/26/2005 7:00:00 AM |
State409b Suspended 490 Posts user info edit post |
no it means you would fail pre-algebra 12/26/2005 9:41:41 AM |
wednesday All American 646 Posts user info edit post |
^^ No it doesn't.
I mean, what you said is true. But he is saying that the price difference is great while the quality difference isn't. 12/26/2005 10:41:19 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Except you can get several good quality 42" HD Plasma Sets in the 12-1800 range, same price range as any decent ED display.
Ed doesnt make any sense anymore. 12/26/2005 12:14:27 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^^i know what he was saying, but i was still saying
HDtv >>>> EDtv because no matter how you look at it, you cannot prove it wrong.
so you can be a smart ass any which way you want and put it into any algebriac formula, it will still come out to
HDtv >>>>>> EDtv
/thread. 12/26/2005 12:33:05 PM |
S All American 658 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.epinions.com/Flat_Panel_Televisions--reviews--plasma--prices--1982_40___45_in_ 12/26/2005 12:36:46 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
i don't click on 3rd party links on TWW...i'm not dense. 12/26/2005 12:38:57 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18968 Posts user info edit post |
watch these on your setup http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/film/ContentShowcase.aspx
then ask yourself if you can live without that now that you've seen it
[Edited on December 26, 2005 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .] 12/26/2005 12:58:54 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
The whole argument about 'lack of HD programming' is really bogus now. Most all the major networks air almost every one of their evening programs in high def. I would say that of all my television watching in a week, if it is NOT in high definition, then its the minority. I probably watch 12 hours a week when reruns are not on.
ETV is going nowhere. I was an early adopter of HDTV (had it for over 5 years). To this day, I still do not like the plasma or LCD displays. I have a 65" rear projection Mitsu now that is a beautiful display, and would only upgrade to DLP at this point. The cost/benefit ratio for everything else just isnt there for my own perspective. However, HDTV is here to stay. 12/26/2005 2:25:36 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
CRT RPTVs own
as do
CRT front projection
but nobody likes huge 12/26/2005 4:39:07 PM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
plasma is good but it sucks from a practical standpoint. LCD is just meh
CRT is where it's at. 12/26/2005 4:42:07 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
zing!
BUT ULTRA
WHAT ABOUT 4:3 BURN IN
[Edited on December 26, 2005 at 4:46 PM. Reason : .] 12/26/2005 4:46:18 PM |
ultra Suspended 5191 Posts user info edit post |
I love teh burn in 12/26/2005 4:47:58 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
I dont run 4:3 in 4:3 mode. I always view it widescreen. You get used to it. Thats why a DLP would be nice. No burn in. LCD has no burn in, but most displays have an awful screen door effect (which I hate above all else). 12/26/2005 5:26:51 PM |
Plic Starting Lineup 56 Posts user info edit post |
Of those with Time Warner HD boxes...what model do you have? I just picked up the SA Explorer 3100HD a couple days ago. From what I have read, this is an ancient POS. It only has component outs and supposedly they are locked at 1080i. I have a DLP 720p native, so Id like to be able to get a box with DVI/HDMI and the ability to set the res at 720.
Can I call and request a more recent box? Anything specific? 12/26/2005 5:39:30 PM |
McFly Starting Lineup 99 Posts user info edit post |
hdtv is worth definitely worth it. I have a 56" Samsung dlp...I hate watching anything but hdtv programing now. You won't regret it. 12/26/2005 5:42:19 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Settings, advanced, output options, 720p
If you are close enough to a 720p display to be angered by SDE you got more issues then just perfect focus of a defined pixel source.
Read: Sit the fuck farther back.
[Edited on December 26, 2005 at 7:30 PM. Reason : .] 12/26/2005 7:29:54 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
with most of the twc boxes you can press the Settings button, then A for More Settings and scroll down and change the accepted resolutions for your tv 12/26/2005 7:38:31 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
OH REALLY? 12/26/2005 8:15:26 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
I have the explorer 8300 HD DVR. Has support for 1080i, 720p. Recording in HiDef isnt something the Satelliter's can do cheaper (one of the reasons I left DirecTV). I highly recommending getting the DVR capability.
[Edited on December 26, 2005 at 10:08 PM. Reason : .] 12/26/2005 10:07:20 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 26, 2005 at 10:21 PM. Reason : /]
12/26/2005 10:21:19 PM |