putting a 94 f-350 dana 60 on my bronco at first look couldn't find a hysteer arm or any GOOD ideas of how to attach the upper rod. any ideas, links, or especialy pictures would help trying not to spend an arm and a leg the axle ate up a big chunk of my cash.

1/5/2006 11:07:14 PM

ream the knuckles so the tie rod is flipped on top and use the chevy style steering with the drag link connecting to the TRE on the pass side. that would be my best advice for you. i'm sure others will be able to contribute more. are you still going to use the radius arm style suspension, that is what you had correct? or ttb. ok, so what kind of suspension are you going to run? haha

1/5/2006 11:47:40 PM

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397172

there is decent page of info ab the balljoint 60s. andy at carolinarockshop has done work for me in the past and i saw the axle he is talking about where he modified the rockcrusher knuckles. quality work. not too far away either. that swap would be $$ tho. i'd say do the over the knuckle steering and be done with it for awhile.

1/6/2006 12:29:37 AM

this is only a 30 though so double everything hahah


nahh but i bet a similar design would work

1/6/2006 11:46:17 AM

that doesnt look safe.

do you NEED histeer? isnt your bronco coils?

1/6/2006 11:51:01 AM

its attached in 4 points you can't see and is way way way stronger than it looks cause.... yeah thats not cheap ass mild steel


ohh btw... high steer isn't just cause you flex your leafsprings into your steering....
it allso helps with bump steer and the effective strength of your tierod and drag link because they're not pushing at funky angles.

the more horizontal & parallel the better.


[Edited on January 6, 2006 at 11:58 AM. Reason : thank you very much goodnight!]

1/6/2006 11:55:50 AM

he's running a leaf spring front with custom mounts

1/6/2006 12:13:45 PM

I think off road unlimited sells hy-steer kits for those axles. somebody correct me if I'm wrong

1/6/2006 12:20:12 PM

why not convert the axle to a u joint knuckle?

it would be stronger and you could high steer it.



[Edited on January 6, 2006 at 12:28 PM. Reason : http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/axles/60knuckles.htm]

1/6/2006 12:26:37 PM

thats not a ujoint knuckle, thats a kingpin knuckle. and its a lotta work and $$ cuz you gotta change the c's too and set caster.

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"high steer isn't just cause you flex your leafsprings into your steering..."

no shit, but he doesnt say how much lift he is running or that the angles are a problem, so i was asking if it is necessary...

1/6/2006 12:37:37 PM

ohh well i assumed he wasn't retarded.

its easy to lift a bronco 4-7 inches which is plenty for a high steer.

1/6/2006 4:45:48 PM

full hydro...[/thread] close bank account

1/6/2006 5:21:59 PM

hydro sucks for street driving if you've ever done that
i'd rather drive a stock 1920s-1930s ride than a truck with full hydro

1/6/2006 7:06:35 PM

nigga you just aint drove one set up right

ya heard

mines smooth as glass on the road....of course havin 42" tires aired down to 8psi dont help the road feel, but when im aired up to a reasonable pressure, mine drives damn good

1/6/2006 7:31:03 PM

fo real

1/6/2006 7:34:46 PM

ok sorry for the delay. ok i'm using a ball-joint axle off an f-350 i'm hanging it with a set of 10" lift 80 something chevy front springs so by the time it's all hung it's gonna quite a ways away from the pitman arm so most stock steering systems are out. my plan was to use a hy-steer arm are on the passenger side thats gives me another place to attach the steering and moves the bar up higher so i won't end up with tons of bump steer. problem is i cant find a hy-steer arm, and a new knuckle is more than can afford right now i still need to find tires and rims i'm gonna run between 42" or bigger probably michilins or goodyear military tires cuz they are cheap so stock steering is just unsafe. i like the sound of full-hydro but $$$ is the real issue here.

1/7/2006 1:25:28 PM

tires bigger than 42"=cheap?


and you are doing all of this to a bronco? its staying off the streets, right?

either way, steering isnt where you should be cheaping out

1/7/2006 5:44:15 PM

10" springs? What sort of graphics are you going to have? Moonvisor?

1/7/2006 9:44:25 PM

yes tires bigger than 42" are cheap
44" bogger are way over a grand for a set
just saw a set of michilins measured out to be 48" or 52" can't remember for $800 only problem is it takes a 20" rim but the one time cost of the rims sounds better to me than paying an arm and a leg when the tires wear out or if i knock a hole in one. it'll be hitting the street from time to time just not taking any sharp corners anyway the question still is the best way to setup the steering can't really go full hydro and drive it on the street so crossover seemed like the next best thing.

1/7/2006 10:49:51 PM

http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displayimage.php?&photoid=91999&width=2
http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displayimage.php?&photoid=92000&width=0
finally found a set up but i'n still not sure how safe it is or how they attached that stuff to the knuckle
but i should end up with quite a bit less lift than that but that gives you an idea of what i'm shooting for

1/7/2006 11:32:49 PM

what kind of rims are you using? how much is a d60 going for now?

1/8/2006 12:30:47 AM

http://www.usa6x6.com/products_and_services/tires.html

1/8/2006 2:32:04 AM

ah hahahahahahhahahahaah

good luck with usa6x6

if you order now daniel might get you your shit in time for christmas

1/8/2006 9:49:26 AM

DPG saturday anyone?

1/8/2006 10:43:16 AM

maybe you could lift less,cut more and reduce the steering angles? just a suggestion

and

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"either way, steering isnt where you should be cheaping out "

[Edited on January 8, 2006 at 11:13 AM. Reason : .]

1/8/2006 11:13:05 AM

Quote :

"DPG saturday anyone? "

oh you damn right ill be there

you bringin the jeep grant? chris comin with you?

1/8/2006 1:35:09 PM

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"tires bigger than 42"=cheap?"

yup, i only payed 600 for my michelins w/ ~95% tread.

lose the gay ass 10" springs... 4" or 6" rear 56" chevy springs provide more than enough lift to clear 42's or so on a ford truck SAS.

1/8/2006 3:12:17 PM

10" springs where free from friend and my buddy used some 8" ones gave a buddy just enough lift to clear his 44" boggers without cuttin a lot. the plan is to get some 14.5R20 Mitchelins xl's (roughly 44x15) and put them on some american racing 20x10 rims unless can fine some cheaper steel ones.

1/8/2006 3:25:19 PM

how much are the AR rims? probably can get some steelies cheaper from stazworks.

1/8/2006 3:26:52 PM

o yea seems like the going price for a ford hp dana 60 is about $1000 but if after a few months of looking i found one about 4 hours from raleigh and walked away with mine for $600 it was missing the steering tho.

1/8/2006 3:32:27 PM

i think $241 a rim for the teflon coated ones

1/8/2006 3:34:16 PM

damn good deal. throw some dedenbear or crane knuckles on it with the money you saved.

yeah, you should be able to get some from stazworks cheaper. hell, i don't think his double beadlocks are much more than that...

[Edited on January 8, 2006 at 3:35 PM. Reason : .]

1/8/2006 3:34:52 PM

taylor- ill hopefully be there. (90%) who is chris?

1/8/2006 7:55:04 PM

the azn kid with the yellow CJ

word, see you there

1/8/2006 8:05:16 PM

Don't dynatrac and rockcrusher build BJ knuckles? Just by one of those for the passenger side to do crossover.

1/8/2006 8:44:27 PM

yeah. itd be a fucking pain to swap inner c's to go kingpin.

[Edited on January 9, 2006 at 8:17 AM. Reason : https://catalog.foothilloffroad.com/product_info.php?products_id=330&osCsid=9b0cc06bbe1d8182973b73a6]

1/9/2006 8:15:31 AM

http://www.dynatrac.com/site/knuckle.htm

http://www.rockcrusher-usa.com/steerknuckle.htm

1/9/2006 9:22:35 AM

http://www.offroadunlimited.com/ProductCart/PC/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=156&idproduct=125

Holy shit thats nice

1/9/2006 9:24:40 AM

wow thats safe.

1/9/2006 9:52:24 AM

what in the fucking hell

1/9/2006 10:25:00 AM

that dynatrac knuckle is exsactly what i was looking for i was just hoping they wouldn't be over 300 apeace. o well at least it will be safer. how much would the parts cost to go full hydro on the front?

1/9/2006 8:08:21 PM

to do it properly and for it to be safe for street driving expect to spend at least $1500 or so. you may want to consider hydro assist instead, that can be done much cheaper.

1/9/2006 8:30:59 PM

hydro assist like power steering or?

cause full hydro is SHIIIIIIIIIIITY for street driving.... been there done that (not daily or anything)

but that shit is just not safe @ and higher speeds... it never really gets all the way back to center and its inconsistent as shit.

1/9/2006 8:37:54 PM

i'll probably start with dynatrac passenger side knuckle and hysteer arm setup the crossover steering and see if i need to add hydro assist.

1/9/2006 8:51:15 PM

Quote :

"cause full hydro is SHIIIIIIIIIIITY for street driving.... been there done that (not daily or anything) but that shit is just not safe @ and higher speeds... it never really gets all the way back to center and its inconsistent as shit."

once again, you have absolutely no idea wtf you're talking about. sure, if you throw some ag parts on there from tractor supply, you're asking for it.

a high quality system specifically designed for higher speed street use works just fine and has excellent manners and feel. safety is also a non issue. in the world if large trucks with huge hard to balance tires, full hydro can make the vehicle much safer and provide a far superior feel, response, and control over a conventional mechanical system.

1/9/2006 8:57:23 PM

might as well post in here too

1/9/2006 9:50:04 PM

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"it never really gets all the way back to center and its inconsistent as shit"

definitely a possibilty with shitty systems....even decent systems that are purpose built, using the right parts return to center.....higher end systems....near perfect....at least as perfect as could be expected from a vehicle with tires over 40"

1/9/2006 10:12:18 PM

a hydraulic steering system built right, like one from waggoner machine is nice, steers awesome on and off road

1/9/2006 10:14:18 PM

the military has plenty of trucks that are full hydro and street legal and driven. go spout your ill informed bullshit to them.

full hydro would be your best option, eliminating all mechanical linkage that is causing you the difficulty in the first place. hydro assist wouldnt solve anything. call over to POS or PSC and have them put together a system for your rig and give you a cost, then compare it to buying knuckles and shit. post up results.

http://www.pscmotorsports.com/

http://www.performanceoff-road.com/

1/10/2006 8:15:26 AM

How do the BJ knuckles hold up to full hydro?

1/10/2006 8:21:59 AM