Going pro...this sucks

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/index.html

1/6/2006 4:53:28 PM

bad idea.

1/6/2006 4:54:33 PM

good for him

1/6/2006 4:54:57 PM

6th round to the packers.

1/6/2006 4:55:56 PM

his draft status is as high as its gonna be after his performace in the bowl game, he'll get picked up

sucks for us tho

1/6/2006 4:56:55 PM

I hope he's just testing the waters.

1/6/2006 4:57:06 PM

we suck again

1/6/2006 4:58:24 PM

FUCK FUCK FUCK

1/6/2006 4:59:04 PM

please to go to my cardinals with mario and manny

1/6/2006 4:59:32 PM

This is worse news than Mario leaving...cause we knew he was gone.


maybe Brandon Spikes will put us higher on his list with a chance to play right away.

1/6/2006 5:04:00 PM

WHAT?!

1/6/2006 5:04:51 PM

ha oh man, i had dismissed this rumor on account of it being ridiculous

oh well

deraney is now K/P/LB

1/6/2006 5:05:29 PM

Lets hope Ray Michel is as good as they say...we were already gonna be thin at LB


GOD DAMNIT

1/6/2006 5:08:02 PM

maybe he hasn't hired an agent?

1/6/2006 5:09:52 PM

he's been told he'll be going in the 3-4 round. Can't blame him, his status won't raise next year with us(w/o mario and manny).

1/6/2006 5:11:35 PM

Bye bye core defense

1/6/2006 5:18:57 PM

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"I hope he's just testing the waters. "

you cant test the waters, its either landlubber or drown if you cant swim

1/6/2006 5:19:40 PM

cedric simmons for lb or de...let's start making signs at basketball games

1/6/2006 5:21:24 PM

maybe our next lb can actually make plays in the passing game and heaven forbid....intercept a ball. we have good tackles and dbs. it is possible our d will suck ass but it is also possible it will be good. it will liekly be average. i feel if we can get brent our offense will be really good. so we will have another 6-5 season at worst


is it just me or do ncstate players go pro early wehn they clearly arent ready more than any other school

[Edited on January 6, 2006 at 5:39 PM. Reason : nh]

1/6/2006 5:38:55 PM

I hope this is just a rumor. We will suck so bad if leaves too.

1/6/2006 5:45:54 PM

^nope...it's official

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"we suck again"

1/6/2006 5:48:12 PM

GOD DAMN IT. Well least we have Herbie.

1/6/2006 5:49:43 PM

guys we'll be fine. it cant get much worse than this season

1/6/2006 5:50:04 PM

7-5 winning a bowl. You think we will do that next year? I have Cash that says we go 5-6 or worse.

1/6/2006 5:50:55 PM

at least our schedule is even easier next year

1/6/2006 5:51:15 PM

Why is he doing this though? He could have potentially been All-ACC next season and pushed his draft stock higher. Right now he's had one breakout season, he should have stayed and had 2 solid seasons under his belt. There are too many question marks around him now for some team to waste a decent pick on him. He's looking at 5th round or higher.

I'm sure he has his reasons, but he could have potentially been a 3rd rounder with another All-ACC performance. :-/ Gonna miss him, I was a big fan of him and Hoyte.

[Edited on January 6, 2006 at 5:51 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2006 5:51:28 PM

^ I think it's mostly personal reasons (Family needing money from what everyone has said)


Plus think about it... with Mario and Manny gone, D's are going to key on him and make him the focus of blocking schemes. I really can't say it's all that bad of a decision. I compare it to Sean May. Didn't want to leave... but he really had to.

According to a mod on Packpride, he's projected around rounds 3-4 (from speaking with a scout.... who he also said Mario would be the first defensive player taken). Might as well go, I bet his stock would only drop

[Edited on January 6, 2006 at 5:54 PM. Reason : ]

1/6/2006 5:53:51 PM

mccargo
pressly
tyler
rumph
lowry
heath
scott
morgan
davis

will all be good returners on d. im sure we can find a few guys to step up and a few guys to step in and maybe even have some breakout young linebacker than can actually make plays instead of just tackles. the only reason our d wont be great again is because were losing the ends but it all starts upfront and we still have great defensive tackles

be optimistic. our d will be good and hopefully our o will be better. like i said if we can develop a passing game our o will be really good. i think the oline will be much imporved next year also


edit: 7-5 is good but its very misleading. in reality we only won 3 acc games and eku mtsu usf somiss are easy wins almost any year

[Edited on January 6, 2006 at 6:11 PM. Reason : f]

1/6/2006 6:06:33 PM

^ My question is how will this affect McCargo?



Losing other playmakers will only make him realize how much talent is leaving (And how much focus he'll get next year)

1/6/2006 6:09:40 PM

i hope ur just reffereing to manny and mario. tulloch was not a play maker. the only play i recall him making was tipping a ball to clemson so they could take it to the house. he had rock hands and all he did was make tackles. he was a good tackler but any decent linebacker in his spot couldve done the same. he was just an average linebacker.

i dont know about our des now? does anybody? i think i remember hearing on here we have another mario type recruit that redshirted this year

1/6/2006 6:14:16 PM

^ you must have forgotten about his 134 tackles, good for 12th in the nation. You must have also forgotten when he ran back an interception for a td against MTSU. You probably missed the carolina game when he had 19 tackles, oh and were u at the bowl game when he had 15 tackles, 3 sacks, a forced fumble and recovery. Yea ur right, just an average linebacker with stone hands, who is very slow

1/6/2006 7:08:02 PM

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"it is possible our d will suck ass but it is also possible it will be good. it will liekly be average."

thank you for the bit of keen insight

1/6/2006 7:35:50 PM

^ hahah i'm sayin tho, like there's an option outside of those three

1/6/2006 7:40:32 PM

^i actually meant to say o there not d. our d will be good likely and o will likely be average. (could be good if we get bs and wrs+oline step up.

1/6/2006 7:41:26 PM

Ok...this still sucks...I thought it might wear off after a while...but no.

1/6/2006 11:44:10 PM

wish I could leave school and make hundreds of thousands

fuck

good luck, dude

back to drinking

1/7/2006 12:01:50 AM

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"i hope ur just reffereing to manny and mario. tulloch was not a play maker. the only play i recall him making was tipping a ball to clemson so they could take it to the house. he had rock hands and all he did was make tackles. he was a good tackler but any decent linebacker in his spot couldve done the same. he was just an average linebacker."

are fucking kidding? he was the man. shit.

1/7/2006 12:11:00 AM

you had to know this shit was coming with the bowl game he had

1/7/2006 12:38:03 AM

this is what happens when you dont have an offense to back up your defense

1/7/2006 1:34:12 AM

god damnit, WHY THE FUCK?

1/7/2006 1:52:09 AM

I can't hate on him because he really is a nice guy.

Ahh well.

We suck again.

1/7/2006 3:14:04 AM

Rank Player Pos Cl Gm Solo Ast Total PG

1 Jimmy Cottrell, New Mexico St. LB SR 12 90 89 179 14.92 
2 D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland LB SR 10 56 81 137 13.70 
3 Abdul Hodge, Iowa LB SR 12 96 62 158 13.17 
4 Tim McGarigle, Northwestern LB SR 12 81 75 156 13.00 
4 Chad Greenway, Iowa LB SR 12 92 64 156 13.00 
6 Patrick Willis, Mississippi LB JR 10 90 38 128 12.80 
7 Cole Snyder, Idaho LB SR 11 93 46 139 12.64 
8 Kevis Coley, Southern Miss. LB SR 12 85 66 151 12.58 
9 Matt Griebel, New Mexico St. DB SR 12 72 77 149 12.42 
10 Rob Caldwell, Navy LB JR 12 64 76 140 11.67 
11 Anthony Cannon, Tulane LB SR 10 65 49 114 11.40 
12 Stephen Tulloch, North Carolina St. LB JR 12 59 75 134 11.17 
13 H.B. Blades, Pittsburgh LB JR 11 67 54 121 11.00 
14 Jeremy Jones, UTEP LB JR 12 67 63 130 10.83 
15 Moses Osemwegie, Vanderbilt LB SR 11 83 35 118 10.73 
16 Trent Bray, Oregon St. LB SR 11 42 74 116 10.55 
17 Ezekiel Staples, San Jose St. LB SR 11 43 72 115 10.45 
18 Matt Muncy, Ohio LB JR 11 71 43 114 10.36 
19 Freddy Keiaho, San Diego St. LB SR 11 68 45 113 10.27 
19 Aaron Weathers, North Texas DB SO 11 62 51 113 10.27 
21 Joe Sturdivant, Southern Methodist DB JR 11 63 49 112 10.18 
22 A.J. Hawk, Ohio St. LB SR 12 69 52 121 10.08 
23 Rontrell Woodruff, Eastern Mich. DB SR 11 71 39 110 10.00 
24 Evan Benjamin, Washington LB SR 11 65 44 109 9.91 
25 Paul Posluszny, Penn St. LB JR 12 64 52 116 9.67 

1/7/2006 3:43:31 AM

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"Why is he doing this though? "

because he obviously wasnt here for an education, i mean shit, how do you think he got here


this is a horrible choice by him

1/7/2006 4:27:33 AM

How people can rip on players who actually contributed something is beyond me.

1/7/2006 4:29:39 AM

i dont understand how aj hawk is so far down that list of LBs...seeing how he had other linebackers possibly as good as him playing at the same time on his team, and the fact that i think hes an outside linebacker, for him to get that many tackles on a good defense would make me think he should be higher on that list(top 5)

1/7/2006 5:23:09 AM

also, a lot of those linebackers on that list played on some pretty poor offensive teams(although there are real good LBs on this list), many of these guys can have their tackles stats inflated by the fact that they are constantly on D and getting more chances to rack up tackles...i think that may be part of the case with tulloch, seeing how we were on D all the time...but i suppose getting more tackles and having more playing time could lead to him getting better

1/7/2006 5:26:09 AM

This is the same conversation we had about Adrian Wilson about 5 years ago. He ended up in going in the middle of the second round and now is one of the top safeties in the NFL. You can't fault Tulloch. Best of luck to him. We will miss him though.

1/7/2006 8:27:00 AM