There is oil all on the oil pan bolts, which were a little loose, and there was oil everywhere, also around the filter.

Where should I take my car or what can I do?

1/9/2006 7:03:01 PM

zxappeal

1/9/2006 7:04:06 PM

look for a leak, the same they would do.

1/9/2006 7:05:45 PM

Yea already PMed him.

^there is a thin layer of oil everywhere.-

[Edited on January 9, 2006 at 7:06 PM. Reason : -]

1/9/2006 7:05:50 PM

then clean everything up and then see where it leaks from after that

1/9/2006 7:07:00 PM

ok

1/9/2006 7:08:10 PM

you could prolly just change the oil pan gasket, and get a new filter? use some silicone on it and seal it up good

1/9/2006 7:10:26 PM

what kind of money pit is it?

1/9/2006 7:28:26 PM

oil leaks keep my belts lubricated and underside protected in a thick layer of black goop

1/9/2006 7:32:20 PM

Quote :

"then clean everything up and then see where it leaks from after that"

basically, yeah. in addition to the ovbious possibility of the pan gasket leaking on an accord like his it could be the valve cover gasket leaking, a leaking oil pressure unit, or the distributor o-ring. i doubt its residual oil from changing the filter running off the block or the head gasket seeping.

[Edited on January 9, 2006 at 8:22 PM. Reason : kjuhgijug]

1/9/2006 8:22:36 PM

can a pan gasket leak be sudden? everything was fine, then all the sudden im smokin and im 1.35 quarts low.

those oil pan bolts, some are easy, but some i couldnt get to them all.

if zxappeal ends up being busy, where would a good shop be to take it to?



[Edited on January 9, 2006 at 8:39 PM. Reason : -]

1/9/2006 8:34:01 PM

doubt the pan gasket suddenly like that

no need to take it to a shop to find a leak, wait till you can look it over well tomorrow. if its coming from the distributor o ring, the lower part of the distributor should be wet with oil, you can stick your hand down in there to check that out. it cant hurt anything on an accord like yours to go ahead and change the valve cover gasket, its just a few 10mm bolts. go ahead and get a new PCV if you havent and either clean out the PCV vac. line or replace it with some new hose from the parts store- they clog up sometimes and everyone overlooks them and just replaces the valve. if the hose or PCV gets clogged, the crankcase pressure will get high as shit and then the valve cover gasket will leak.

1/9/2006 8:49:25 PM

an accord? 90-93 hope it's not the oil pump seal. They're known for blowing out, but then it wouldn't be on the oil pan so much as the timing cover. I just replaced my oil pan gasket this weekend on my 93 accord. Had to take off the subframe underneath it and remove 3 14mm nuts from the exhaust header (broke a damn 14mm 6pt socket in the process). Thought I may get by without removing but needed an extra 1/2 inch clearance.

Also make sure your oil filter is tight.

1/9/2006 10:27:50 PM

use a match and a can of gasoline

1/9/2006 10:42:55 PM

thnx all.

1/9/2006 11:01:13 PM

change the oil and throw some dye in (they make some specifically for tracking down oil leaks). careful of over tightening the pan bolts, many vehicles have VERY light torque specs for pan bolts.

1/9/2006 11:22:49 PM

wouldn't smoke point to a leak high on the motor because of dripping on exhaust? or do those cars have exhaust pipes that run where a low oil leak could drip on them?

1/10/2006 12:01:06 AM

He's swinging by the hizzle tomorrow nite.

We gonna see what we can do.

Pipe runs right under the oil pan. I've replaced an Accord oil pan gasket that was heat-hardened and cracked (and leaked like a mofo) right onto the exhaust. It is pretty damn close, and yeah, it'll smoke like a mutha...

[Edited on January 10, 2006 at 12:02 AM. Reason : yeah boy.]

1/10/2006 12:01:30 AM

Quote :

"use some silicone on it and seal it up good"

I wouldn't use any silicone on a rubber gasket...

And if it's the pan gasket, get the new one from Honda.

1/10/2006 12:19:19 AM

once i rebuilt a F22 in an accord without pulling it from the car

1/10/2006 12:31:27 AM

i wouldn't use silicone either, but many manufacturers do reccomend/call for rtv in conjunction with the gasket.

1/10/2006 12:31:44 AM

ive never seen anyone call for RTV with a rubber gasket, you can use weatherstrip glue maybe. but a lot of cars these days dont come with any gaskets from the factory cause the engine is assembled with RTV. some cars these days are even using anerobic gasket sealer, basically loctite between engine parts in place of gaskets.

1/10/2006 12:35:57 AM

isuzus do, for one. northstars also, on the case halves. various others...

1/10/2006 12:52:36 AM

NIGGA PLEASE THATS NOT REALISTIC

1/10/2006 12:55:35 AM

Quote :

"some cars these days are even using anerobic gasket sealer, basically loctite between engine parts in place of gaskets."

True. You can buy it. Permatex sells it. And yes, it is basically similar to Loctite in that it's a methacrylic ester.

Quote :

"ive never seen anyone call for RTV with a rubber gasket, you can use weatherstrip glue maybe."

False (somewhat, at least). Most major manufacturers do recommend sealing the corners at a bearing cap or similar with a dab of silicone, as most gaskets lack the ability to seal at a hard angle. I have used silicone in conjunction with a rubber gasket in more difficult-to-seal applications where surface irregularity is a concern; however, I only use the thinnest film that I can skin on with my index finger, and I will only use Permatex Gray or its equivalent, as it sets up with quite a bit less flex and compressibility than your run-of-the-mill blue, black, copper, or red silicones.

And the only thing I use the cheap blue stuff (with the acetic acid vinegar smelling component) for is to stick cosmetic shit together. If even that. It's crap.

1/10/2006 1:36:09 AM

what we have here is a failure to communicate

wtf has a bearing cap have to do with a rubber gasket? maybe thats some oddball application i dont know about.

everything aside, im not going to instruct a noob to use RTV with a rubber oil pan gasket because its too easy for them to overdo it and have the gasket slide all around. properly installed, a rubber gasket will not leak if you dont use RTV. dan like you i have the habit of dressing my gaskets, paper cork or otherwise with the grey rtv on a real thin basis, but i honestly dont believe its needed. some asshole on here was talking about that indian head shellac recently so I tried that out but i havent had any reason to pull it off so all i can say is it didnt leak. that was a paper waterpump gasket.

[Edited on January 10, 2006 at 1:57 AM. Reason : i only use the black grey or copper RTV anymore, the orange, blue and whatever else is worthless]

1/10/2006 1:56:28 AM

Where the valve cover gasket or oil pan gasket has to go over a bearing cap...you know, like at the ends of the cover/pan. Like Brylcreem...a little dab'll do ya...right in those corners.

Sure, you don't need it for gross leakage, but it does help prevent small amounts of seepage.

1/10/2006 2:07:24 AM

hahaha i totally forgot about that shit, even with all the honda valve cover talk earlier. ive had good old american stuff on the brain lately.

[Edited on January 10, 2006 at 2:21 AM. Reason : bedtime]

1/10/2006 2:18:46 AM

My honda service manual says to put a dab of shit on the corners near the flywheel where the oil pan has a contour for the engine crank.

Was also helpful to remove 3 12mm screws that give some kind of access to the tranny and 3 10mm screws on the flywheel cover before removing oil pan screws.

Tourque specs if you need them are 10ft-lbs on the oil pan and valve cover, 29 ft-lbs on the subframe and 39 ft-lbs on the exhaust.

1/10/2006 6:22:29 AM

use an oil leak detector. snap on man can get em for you.

1/10/2006 8:08:53 AM

if it lost that much suddenly, sounds like you shit an oil pump seal, loosen up the timing cover and look behind it with a light, if it is wet inside, you got some work to do

1/10/2006 8:48:06 AM

just to let everyone know, i didn't know he was using a rubber gasket. thought it was a cork one. sorry for the misinfo.

1/10/2006 9:43:26 AM