why is no one bitching about this to at least try to have something done?!?! a little hurrican comes through and this is all anyone talks about, so why the fuck not now?

fuckin up to $2.59 on the way home from work tonight (premium-but thats what my car takes so i cant do much)

1/12/2006 7:24:45 PM

Get a hybrid?

1/12/2006 7:33:30 PM

hybrids arent economic.

1/12/2006 7:34:48 PM

i'm glad companies are finally starting to make hybrids somewhat aesthetically pleasing, like the lexus suv. those ford and honda things were hideous

1/12/2006 7:36:45 PM

yeah i totally agree....the media is not really giving it that much attention and the prices are jacked up!
my car uses premium too and its just too expensive....

1/12/2006 7:41:26 PM

And the prius is the most beautiful thing to come out of japan.

1/12/2006 7:42:21 PM

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"a little hurrican comes through and this is all anyone talks about,"

probably one of the dumbest fucking comments that has ever been written by anyone, ever. EVAR

fucking goddamn that is stupid.

1/12/2006 7:48:27 PM

much like driving an suv, you cant really bitch if you buy a car that takes premium. what kinda car are we talking about here.

1/12/2006 8:00:44 PM

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[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 8:18 PM. Reason : ]

1/12/2006 8:07:53 PM

Quote :

"much like driving an suv, you cant really bitch if you buy a car that takes premium."

Why?

1/12/2006 8:11:41 PM

Quote :

"Quote : "a little hurrican comes through and this is all anyone talks about," probably one of the dumbest fucking comments that has ever been written by anyone, ever. EVAR fucking goddamn that is stupid. "

sarcasm there buddy, calm down

1/12/2006 8:20:14 PM

seriously it's gay

and hybrids are worse than high gas prices. A Lexus RX400h is THOUSANDS more than an equally equipped RX330 (same w/ Ford Escape vs. Hybrid Escape). You'd hafta drive an insane amount of miles to ever make up the difference. Plus, buying new batteries every so often won't be free...

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 8:27 PM. Reason : .]

1/12/2006 8:27:03 PM

^tax rebates brah

1/12/2006 8:28:29 PM

if more people drove hybrids, gas prices wouldn't be so high.

1/12/2006 8:29:35 PM

Maybe the government should step in and mandate price ceilings to keep the prices down. Then you could wait in line while gas stations ran out of gas.

If you don't like capitalism, feel free to leave the country.

1/12/2006 8:42:05 PM

NC Law raised the gas tax on Jan. 1...so remember to thank your elected mostly Democrat leaders.

1/12/2006 8:43:18 PM

you can thank the screwed up war too

1/12/2006 8:50:02 PM

Gas prices here are $2.47 at the very cheapest. Premium is up to $3.00 in some places.

1/12/2006 8:57:29 PM

Yeah but how far can you drive? You are in Hawaii for cryin out loud.

1/12/2006 9:42:31 PM

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"NC Law raised the gas tax on Jan. 1...so remember to thank your elected mostly Democrat leaders. "

Not exactly all the leaders' faults. Some of em tried to call a meeting to freeze the gas tax.

1/12/2006 10:18:14 PM

Just be glad you don't live in fucking Europe.

If gas prices followed every other inflation trend on other commodities, it would be even higher than it is.

1/12/2006 10:26:26 PM

ANYONE who tells me that gas prices are caused by capitalism, the "free hand," or any other bullshit is either lying or just doesn't pay attention

OPEC IS A CARTEL. There is no "free market" when it comes to oil

and the reason gas prices are going so nuts now is because they only went down so quickly after katrina cause europe saved us. now they're dropping off on the aid, and gas prices are re-inflating

but it is interesting that now that they're not $3.50 because of a hurricane, not as many people notice, isn't it?

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 10:44 PM. Reason : .]

1/12/2006 10:44:02 PM

I'm waiting until they start getting oil from the sands in Canada. Then Canada is going to run a train on OPEC, or join them. Either way they are closer and more friendly.

1/12/2006 10:46:13 PM

Canada more friendly? hah! they're just sucking up while we have the upper hand

if they ever strike oil, then those of us in the lower 48 are in for it. We'll be saying "eh" in no time

1/12/2006 10:47:37 PM

oh they have $texas in oil but they can't get the sand out.

http://www.energy.gov.ab.ca/88.asp

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 10:50 PM. Reason : link]

1/12/2006 10:48:40 PM

at the moment we have enough oil, but not enough refineries to meet the demand.

so, you can stop guzzling all that gas, and be more efficient. otherwise don't bitch.

1/12/2006 10:50:53 PM

you wouldn't have this problem if you didn't have a car.

1/12/2006 10:56:38 PM

i've been to atleast a dozen other countries in the last 10 months

we pay very little for gas

1/12/2006 10:56:53 PM

Most folks don't realize that the inflation adjusted price for gasoline (called "real price" in economic terms) is still not as high as back in the 70's. You keep hearing that oil prices are at record highs.
True in "nominal terms" but not true in "real terms". Oil would have to be $90.00 plus dollars a barrel today to be equivalent to the price of oil in the 70's. We are only 2/3rds of the way there right now.

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 11:26 PM. Reason : .]

1/12/2006 10:59:59 PM

Quote :

"we pay very little for gas"

1/12/2006 11:02:46 PM

In Iran gas is 10 cents per gallon....

1/12/2006 11:10:07 PM

well that is in Iran, I would pay $5.00/gal not to have to buy gas in Iran.

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 11:12 PM. Reason : /gal]

1/12/2006 11:12:24 PM

this thread is all ate up with stupid

i might quote-bomb it later, but it's too big of a project for right now

1/12/2006 11:16:27 PM

i didnt say if anyone wanted to put gas there or not....i just wanted to mention how prices differ and even in the USA it can be much much lower than it is right now, but its not......

1/12/2006 11:18:25 PM

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"you wouldn't have this problem if you didn't have a car."

but i do have a car, therefore i do have this problem

you are a dumbfuck

Quote :

"i've been to atleast a dozen other countries in the last 10 months we pay very little for gas"

well i dont live in another goddamn country, do you? how is that relevant? electronics cost less in japan than they do here. i dont live in japan though

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"so, you can stop guzzling all that gas, and be more efficient"

not sure if this was directed at me, but i drive a very sensible car that gets great mileage.... on top of which, i drive very efficiently

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 11:22 PM. Reason : fucking idiots in here tonight][quote]

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 11:24 PM. Reason : .]

1/12/2006 11:20:07 PM

gas will never...and i repeat...never go back down. Get used to $2.10-$2.50 for regular gas for a while.

1/12/2006 11:27:45 PM

Right now, there are adequate oil supplies around the world to satisfy world demand. The problem is,
that we are not able to refine that oil fast enough to meet the demand for refined fuels around the world.

Some of this problem is due to U.S. environmental regulations on oil refineries and distillate products (gasoline). First, environmental regulations became so onerous with respect to building new refinery capacity, that oil companies just did not do it. There was not enough incentive (profit) to do so. Our refinery capacity is old and not nearly as productive as new facilities would be.

Environmentalism has costs and we are all paying those costs right here and now. The second environmental factor is all the different blends of gas that must be produced for the U.S. market. California gasoline is different from North Carolina gasoline for example. All these different states have developed different formulations for their respective states due to clean air requirements and environmental concerns of their respective political bodies.

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"not sure if this was directed at me, but i drive a very sensible car that gets great mileage.... on top of which, i drive very efficiently"

It wasn't directed at you. Ultimately, you're gonna pay. If everybody does their part, shit will change. Otherwise, it adds up.

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 11:32 PM. Reason : Also, developing countries are a major reason for oil prices. Blame China and India]

1/12/2006 11:29:52 PM

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"gas will never...and i repeat...never go back down. Get used to $2.10-$2.50 for regular gas for a while."

Nationwide gasoline prices will drop below $2.00 sometime in the spring. They might get down to $1.50 or less by the end of the year, especially if there is a downturn in the world economy.

Gasoline prices are still dictated by market forces. Demand is slightly up, and supply is slightly down. Nothing to get too worried about.

1/12/2006 11:39:20 PM

yeah I pumped gas the other day and it was up 25 cents from two weeks beforehand


I was wtfing

1/12/2006 11:45:58 PM

http://www.energy.gov.ab.ca/88.asp

Quote :

"Canada ranks second largest in terms of global proven crude oil reserves (15% of world reserves), after Saudi Arabia. The majority of these reserves are found in Alberta’s oil sands – over 174 billion barrels. If you are looking for more interesting facts on oil sands, this section will provide it for you."

I hereby renounce all criticism of Bush's pre-emption policy and support an immediate and complete invasion of Canada with the full force of the United States military.

[Edited on January 13, 2006 at 12:18 AM. Reason : >.<]

1/13/2006 12:18:14 AM

Quote :

"Nationwide gasoline prices will drop below $2.00 sometime in the spring. They might get down to $1.50 or less by the end of the year, especially if there is a downturn in the world economy. "

First off, let me get some of that crack you're hittin'. There's no way in the world it's gonna drop back below $2.00/gal. Why? Because WE'LL PAY THAT MUCH MONEY.

Quote :

"Gasoline prices are still dictated by market forces."

Maybe in Kirby's Dream Land. Gas is a freaking monopoly/cartel/etc. Period. It's the sole fuel source for America's cars. There is no real, viable, and massively available alternative. Thus, it's a monopoly.

The reality is that if your tank was near "E", and you pulled into a gas station tomorrow and it was $4.05/gallon, YOU WOULD PURCHASE GASOLINE. And if you somehow think "demand" for gas will go "down", you must expect hundreds of thousands of America workers to just up and not go to work or something.

1/13/2006 12:25:52 AM

...or have never taken an economics course in your life.

1/13/2006 12:36:49 AM

aha, you're retarded.

Look up the definition of "monopoly".

then come back to me.

[Edited on January 13, 2006 at 12:45 AM. Reason : its sad that people have no idea how gas prices work. OIL COMPANIES DON'T SET THE PRICES]

1/13/2006 12:39:16 AM

there is actually a massive computer at the center of the earth that sets all prices for every store on the planet.

1/13/2006 1:09:14 AM

thats impossible

it would burn up

1/13/2006 1:16:36 AM

^ It's protected by ninja fighting ice penguins.

1/13/2006 2:05:00 AM

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"premium-but thats what my car takes so i cant do much"

i am sure that your car would run with no problem if you used regular or at least mid grade.

1/13/2006 3:29:56 AM

it fucking depends on his car

1/13/2006 4:56:43 AM

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"why is no one bitching about this to at least try to have something done?!?!"

Because people think complaining/protesting actually makes a difference. 95% of the time its a short-term wave that people forgot about after a month.

If you want to make a difference, go do some research, get "in" the system, and 20 years later, rise high enough in power to make that change.

1/13/2006 5:49:34 AM

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"There is no "free market" when it comes to oil"

There's no "free market" when it comes to diamonds either, but I don't hear you bitchin' and pissin' about that.

1/13/2006 5:58:34 AM