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Noted Physicist Brian Greene to Speak at NC State
One of the world’s leading physicists, Brian Greene, is coming to speak at North Carolina State University on Monday, January 23. Dr. Greene will be speaking at 6:00 PM in Stewart Theatre of the Talley Student Center on the topic “The Fabric of the Cosmos: Space, Time, and the Texture of Reality.”
Dr. Greene has published two popular books on physics and string theory, The Elegant Universe, and The Fabric of the Cosmos: Space, Time, and the Texture of Reality. Greene was also the host of the NOVA television series The Elegant Universe.
Dr. Greene is known for his skill in making complicated cutting-edge scientific concepts accessible for a general audience, so the lecture should be interesting and understandable for all.
Tickets for the event are $10 for general public and free for NC State students, faculty and staff. For more information, contact Ticket Central at (919) 515-1100, TTY: (919) 515-7371 or on the web at http://ticketcentral.ncsu.edu
The event is being sponsored by the Issues and Ideas Committee of the Union Activities Board at NC State in collaborating with the NCSU Physics Department, SAS Institute, University Scholars, University Honors, and Women in Science and Engineering (WISE). 1/18/2006 12:49:43 AM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
Cool. 1/18/2006 12:55:11 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
1/18/2006 1:03:10 AM |
bottombaby IRL 21954 Posts user info edit post |
my fiance is very excited about this. 1/18/2006 1:03:55 AM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
Woodfoot took my post
1/18/2006 12:05:18 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
string theory seems so contrived to me 1/18/2006 12:38:36 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
yeah it's not like those physicists know what they're talking about 1/18/2006 12:39:41 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
NERDS!!!!!!!!!
The only thing I've ever heard about string theory came from a PBS show a year or so ago. It wasn't a very good show for explaining the theory. They basically presented it with the goal of making it so ambiguous that you 1) couldn't tell what the theory was and 2) couldn't prove anything they were saying one way or the other.
Their proof was basically "it's right because you can't prove it wrong" which never flew with me. I did only see the first of a two or three part series but they needed to do a much better job of conveying their ideas. Maybe this guy can do that.
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1/18/2006 1:40:15 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
one of my history professors (history of science) said he has tried to understand string theory many times and that no one from our physics department can explain it well saying its not their department and its more of a mathematically derived theory that only mathematicians can explain... but the mathematicians only offer advanced & abstract equations and no more tangible word-based explanation. 1/18/2006 1:55:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
haha Woodfoot totally took my post too
haha remember when his friend shot himself 1/18/2006 2:06:26 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
String theory is the quantum field theory of extended objects. What's so bad about that? Take a little general relativity, stir in some standard techinques of quantum field theory and wrap the whole thing around some 6 or 7 dimensional space that allows the desired supersymmetries, then you're good to go. 1/18/2006 4:54:28 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ & ^^^ go see Greene, he'll help yall out 1/18/2006 9:15:02 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "haha remember when his friend shot himself" | and they never mentioned it for like 4 seasons and then when dylan went all psycho after his father died and he lost most of his trust fund and david was the only one who really got through to him, and he was like "cause after (blonde dead guy) shot himself, you're the only one who treated me like a person and not a charity case" or some teen-melodrama shit like that
its amazing how much of that show i remember; considering i didn't even like it that much...1/18/2006 9:18:12 PM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
this is entertainment? 1/18/2006 9:29:20 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
the sad thing is people know more about that show then string theory, or modern physics in general. 1/18/2006 9:32:08 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
explain to me why i need to know anything about string theory or modern physics
seriously
that will be entertainment 1/18/2006 9:36:17 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
because it will make you a more well-rounded and knowledgeable human being 1/18/2006 9:54:47 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
no, thats why i "should" know about that
in my day to day life
what neeeeeeed have i for string theory? 1/18/2006 10:09:36 PM |
evilbob All American 4807 Posts user info edit post |
ladies, does he make you horny? The last time I saw him, he made all the chicks in the audience horny. Im pretty sure most of these chicks didnt even know the lecture was about physics
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mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Of course you have no "need" for the majority of everthing you'll learn at NCSU. I just think it is sad that people do not view scientists with the respect they view entertainment/sports stars... admitably this is a statement of taste... 1/18/2006 11:34:28 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^things have changed since teh old days. einstein was a celeb in his day. post war and for a long time, the math and sciences were very popular. 1/18/2006 11:43:17 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I just think it is sad that people do not view scientists with the respect they view entertainment/sports stars... admitably this is a statement of taste..." |
its not taste thats at fault
its marketing
if scientists would hire pr firms and agents they'd be celebrities
hell, look at the google guys1/18/2006 11:50:28 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha, what google guys? 1/19/2006 12:01:48 AM |
EhSteve All American 7240 Posts user info edit post |
society has us programmed to think that anybody can be a brilliant scientist if we work hard and do well in school.
natural athletic talent, on the other hand, is not something we can all achieve - that's why they get paid the big bucks to entertain the masses. 1/19/2006 12:16:30 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
it's society's fault 1/19/2006 12:37:12 AM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
The last time I saw this guy speak was at Governor's School in 1999. 1/19/2006 12:37:55 AM |
EhSteve All American 7240 Posts user info edit post |
^^I blame cheese. 1/19/2006 12:45:07 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
oh shit i want to go see this 1/19/2006 1:18:55 AM |
therooster All American 2559 Posts user info edit post |
I got my tickets 1/19/2006 1:20:17 AM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
they showed some movie of this tool in a Scholars Forum and it was kinda cool for a minute until I realized that NONE OF THE CRAP HE TALKS ABOUT MATTERS AT ALL. 1/19/2006 1:47:26 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, the understanding of the nature of the universe doesn't matter at all.
1/19/2006 2:03:41 AM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
string theory does not matter at all.
this guy will never produce any type of monumentally true facts that will change the way we look at things.
it's great geek-talk material though 1/19/2006 10:07:57 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
FUCK THIS GUY, I WANT THE WHEEL CHAIR DUDE!! 1/19/2006 10:10:10 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
"Let's do funky fresh physics yo"
1/19/2006 10:14:18 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "society has us programmed to think that anybody can be a brilliant scientist if we work hard and do well in school." | i certainly don't believe that
that shit sounds like something you'd hear on an infomercial1/19/2006 10:49:37 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
I remember him being kind of a dick. Well, not a dick, but just sort of dismissive when I asked him a question. 1/19/2006 11:24:34 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "string theory does not matter at all.
this guy will never produce any type of monumentally true facts that will change the way we look at things.
it's great geek-talk material though" |
haha i love it when people who don't know what the hell they are talking about bring up the whole "IT'S NOT A FACT, IT'S ONLY A THEORY" shit.
ok, in science, we call ideas that we believe to be true after lots and lots of testing, etc, theories. it takes a lot of evidence to call something a theory.1/19/2006 12:01:49 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " if scientists would hire pr firms and agents they'd be celebrities " |
I almost asked for my PY208 TA's autograph, because he had a picture he made on APOD. 1/19/2006 12:48:10 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^^Maybe they should rename it "String Idea" then. 1/19/2006 3:24:26 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe they should rewrite the entirety of advanced theoretical physics in words that the common idiot can understand. 1/19/2006 3:25:57 PM |
JRattB All American 2008 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ok, in science, we call ideas that we believe to be true after lots and lots of testing, etc, theories. it takes a lot of evidence to call something a theory." |
not to mention that many things believed to be fact is really just the accepted theory at the time until it is proven false.1/19/2006 6:16:09 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ They show that on PBS, but no one watches PBS. 1/20/2006 1:55:47 AM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Did anybody go, how was it? 1/24/2006 7:41:04 PM |
therooster All American 2559 Posts user info edit post |
dude was brilliant. plain and simple. 1/24/2006 9:11:35 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
some of us saw him talk for free
cause we're just hard like that
ballers 1/24/2006 9:20:24 PM |
sane Starting Lineup 67 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it takes a lot of evidence to call something a theory" |
Not true. In fact, String Theory is an example of how something can be called theory without a lot of evidence. Brian Greene himself said that String Theory was not tested yet,. He even said he does not know when it will be testable.1/25/2006 1:38:13 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
So who can report on what he said?
^ makes it sound like they are making things up 1/25/2006 9:59:54 AM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/
basically this
enjoy 1/25/2006 10:18:37 AM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Many "theories" are very speculative. Many physicsists do not consider String Theory physical at the moment precisely because it yields no testable predictions, or "postdictions" for that matter. Anyway, that doesn't really matter because there is no other theory except for strings which even begins to seriously explain what strings does. There is no other finite theory of quantum gravity.
I like Greene's intuitive pictures, he does a really good job of watering down theoretical physics for the masses. I think he is a bit to ambitious on self-consistency of string theory though. He goes so far as to claim that string theory will through pure mathematics explain which geometry underlies the universe. In his talk in Dabney he suggested "no dimensionless adjustable parameters" would be needed in the final version of the theory. In contrast, current physical theory is based on numerous finely tuned parameters which are just put in by hand. He imagines a physics which arises basically just from logical necessity. I think this is unwarranted for a number of reasons,
1. it ignores the whole history of things, we've always had certain numbers which were adjusted to make the equations work.
2. by his own admission, strings is more like a theory of theories. Why should one be preferred? it is better to think of string theory like quantum field theory, it is a framework. To describe particular physics you'll likely need to specify a particular string model then proceed.
In short, science does not remove questions, rather it just rephrases them. Ultimately I don't think science will ever really explain why we are here, or why the universe exists at all. It might get better at describing the creation event though, and that is part of what makes strings so cool. 1/27/2006 10:41:57 PM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
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