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2/16/2006 9:14:21 PM

excellent

2/16/2006 9:15:08 PM

this isn't good is it?

2/16/2006 9:26:18 PM

false start
false start
false start

i thought detroit was looking to improve

2/16/2006 9:29:01 PM

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"this isn't good is it?"

Depends on your opinion of Barry. Hard to argue with his resume, but we've also had a shitty O-line for two years in a row.

At least this is post-signing day, so there's no effect on next season's incoming class.

2/16/2006 9:30:47 PM

Maybe they are trying to see if Harrington performs better under pressure.

2/16/2006 9:31:11 PM

you people are morons

look who he had to work with last year

the fucktard that is derek morris and company

how many DL did he successfully turn into great OL? 3. Look at the other OL he coached

you people are morons using 1 season with shitty players who have 0 coinfidence in their QB for measuring his performance

2/16/2006 9:34:05 PM

what does 0 confidence in the QB have to do with anything?

2/16/2006 9:39:59 PM

I guess they had 0 confidence in our running backs as well, eh?

motion to ban BoobsR_gr8 from sports talk.

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 9:42 PM. Reason : asdf]

2/16/2006 9:42:25 PM

look at how well seattles O line and the colts O line played all year. your line performs better when they have more confidence that the QB will get it done

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 9:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2006 9:43:48 PM

I thought this thread was talking about Barry Sanders.

2/16/2006 9:46:42 PM

its hard to have a good oline with the likes of derrick morris and mckeon playin. it doesnt matter what kind of coach you are if the players only care about themselves of course the line is gonna suck. Next year the line is gonna be better based soley on the fact that morris and mckeon are gone.

on another note anyone notice the article on packpride stated he was only here 3 years and that he and his wife have a couple kids and 4 grand kids even though he just got remarried last summer. youd figure packpride would be alittle more informed than that.

2/16/2006 9:54:14 PM

Yeah I think its a loss. Chuck needs to recruit him better talent. He turned Sean Locklear from a DL to an NFL caliber OL. Started in the Super Bowl.

But still something isn't right when one player (Morris) pushes his coach and is back in after just a few plays.

2/16/2006 10:18:26 PM

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"BobbyDigital Miscegenator 21248 Posts user info edit post I guess they had 0 confidence in our running backs as well, eh? motion to ban BoobsR_gr8 from sports talk. "

bobbydigital, i usually respect you

but wtf

you made no attempt to counter my arguement and just threw out a "ban the guy who actually knows about sports and can see past what happened 1 year"

2/16/2006 10:27:56 PM

my counter to your argument:

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"I guess they had 0 confidence in our running backs as well, eh?"

and if you didn't get that my "motion to ban" was in jest, note that you have not been banned.

2/16/2006 10:29:45 PM

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"look at how well seattles O line and the colts O line played all year. your line performs better when they have more confidence that the QB will get it done"

is exactly right


if the OL know their QB is capable of making good, quick decisions, there will be less false starts.

If the OL feel like they have to do too much b/c their QB is shitty, that is where the penalties come from

2/16/2006 10:29:46 PM

note that most false starts come on passing plays

2/16/2006 10:30:39 PM

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"But still something isn't right when one player (Morris) pushes his coach and is back in after just a few plays."

actually that was all cleared up a few days later, derek didnt push him he came in contact with him by mistake

2/16/2006 10:36:29 PM

Considering our RB's got hit in the backfield as they received a handoff I don't think you can say the OLine simply didn't have confidence in the QB... they were getting beat hardcore.

2/16/2006 10:40:14 PM

i was saying that in respect to the penalties

and they also had to deal with like 9 in the box b/c our qbs suck

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 10:42 PM. Reason : /]

2/16/2006 10:40:54 PM

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"I thought this thread was talking about Barry Sanders."

2/16/2006 10:56:19 PM

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"I thought this thread was talking about Barry Sanders."

2/16/2006 11:13:49 PM

GOD DAMN of course they got beat, every team fucking stacked the box and rushed their asses off every damn play because they knew we couldnt pass for shit. luckily our running backs were talented enough to get past the initial blitz to gain some big yardage in a few games. if we had a confident qb who got the job done, everything would improve.


^^^ yeah...the box thing didnt see that.

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 11:34 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2006 11:33:24 PM

Barry was a real good coach, he just had absolutely no talent to work with at all. our o-line is complete garbage

2/16/2006 11:43:44 PM

that's why he got fired by tennessee? Barry is old and outdated. I'm glad we got rid of him.

2/17/2006 12:47:34 AM

you can't use having zero confidence in the QB as an excuse, if anything it's the coach's job to get them to play hard despite having no confidence in the qb...

but this is a hard loss, i hope they can replace him with someone good... but it's just one more slide down for next season

2/17/2006 8:28:01 AM

Losing football coaches doesn't even faze me anymore.

It's like we're just a layover on the way to a better job.

[Edited on February 17, 2006 at 8:32 AM. Reason : though it's debatable whether the Lions job is "better" in any sense other than money]

2/17/2006 8:31:09 AM

I wonder what goes on with our administration and team that so many coaches come for 1-2 years and leave...most of the time it is to better jobs, but our teams hardly show great improvement to prove how well the coach is. I am tired of seeing our coaches bounce every season...


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FH

2/17/2006 9:30:58 AM

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"on another note anyone notice the article on packpride stated he was only here 3 years and that he and his wife have a couple kids and 4 grand kids even though he just got remarried last summer. youd figure packpride would be alittle more informed than that. "

but that article isn't a packpride article. it is a lions press release

2/17/2006 9:52:39 AM

2/17/2006 11:00:44 AM