Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I just hope this kind of thinking builds momentum.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/20/bush.energy.ap/index.html
Quote : | "Bush fuels case for alternative power Critics says president's energy plan doesn't go far enough
MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (AP) -- Saying the nation is on the verge of technological breakthroughs that would "startle" most Americans, President Bush on Monday outlined his energy proposals to help wean the country off foreign oil.
Less than half the crude oil used by refineries is produced in the United States, with 60 percent coming from foreign nations, Bush said during the first stop on a two-day trip to talk about energy.
Some of these foreign suppliers have "unstable" governments that have fundamental differences with America, he said.
"It creates a national security issue, and we're held hostage for energy by foreign nations that may not like us," Bush said.
Bush is focusing on energy at a time when Americans are paying high power bills to heat their homes this winter and have only recently seen a decrease in gasoline prices.
One of Bush's proposals would expand research into smaller, longer-lasting batteries for electric-gas hybrid cars, including plug-ins. He highlighted that initiative with a visit Monday to the battery center at Milwaukee-based auto-parts supplier Johnson Controls Inc.
During his trip, Bush is also focusing on a proposal to increase investment in development of clean electric power sources, and proposals to speed the development of biofuels such as "cellulosic" ethanol made from wood chips or switchgrass.
Energy conservation groups and environmentalists say they're pleased that the president, a former oil man in Texas, is stressing alternative sources of energy, but they contend his proposals don't go far enough.
They say the administration must consider greater fuel-efficiency standards for cars, and some economists believe it's best to increase the gas tax to force consumers to change their driving habits.
During his visit to Johnson Controls' new hybrid battery laboratory, Bush checked out two Ford Escapes -- one with a nickel-metal hydride battery, the kind that powers most hybrid-electric vehicles, and one with a lithium-ion battery, which Johnson Controls believes are the wave of the future.
The lithium-ion battery was about half the size of the older-model battery. In 2004, Johnson Controls received a government contract to develop the lithium-ion batteries.
On Tuesday, Bush plans to visit the Energy Department's National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colorado, to talk about speeding the development of biofuels.
The lab, with a looming $28 million budget shortfall, had announced it was cutting its staff by 32 people, including eight researchers. But in advance of Bush's visit, Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman over the weekend directed the transfer of $5 million to the private contractor that runs the lab, so the jobs can be saved.
The department "has been informed that the NREL lab director will use these funds to immediately restore all of the jobs that were cut earlier this month due to budget shortfalls," the department said in a statement Monday.
"Our nation is on the threshold of new energy technology that I think will startle the American people," Bush said.
"We're on the edge of some amazing breakthroughs -- breakthroughs all aimed at enhancing our national security and our economic security and the quality of life of the folks who live here in the United States."
Later Monday, Bush visited the United Solar Ovonic plant, which makes solar panels, in Auburn Hills, Michigan, outside Detroit. "This technology right here is going to help us change the way we live in our homes," Bush told reporters.
Bush said he was impressed with the growing commercial uses of solar energy.
"Roof makers will one day be able to make a solar roof that protects you from the elements and at the same time powers your house," Bush said.
"The vision is this -- that technology will become so efficient that you'll become a little power generator in your home, and if you don't use the energy you generate you'll be able to feed it back into the electricity grid."
Rep. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, questioned Bush's energy policies Monday, saying the administration also supports subsidies for luxury SUVs.
"This single tax subsidy dwarfs anything being done for hybrid batteries," Markey said in a news release.
As a complement to Bush's travels, six Cabinet officials are crisscrossing the nation this week, appearing at more than two dozen energy events in more than a dozen states." |
Also, it'd be pretty sweet if your house produced enough electricity to run itself and feed more into the grid. Imagine getting a check from Progress Energy every month. 2/21/2006 12:27:45 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
props to Bush 2/21/2006 12:29:47 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Ditto. 2/21/2006 12:36:10 AM |
XActoMan All American 843 Posts user info edit post |
Itll be a cold day in hell before I buy an electric car. There are many other wastes of energy greater than automobiles. At least the solar panels on residential structures isn't too far off. Its a growing trend in commerical structure design. 2/21/2006 2:04:43 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
just curious, why the strong hate for electric (by which, i assume you mean hybrid, because pure electrics are virtually non-existent)? Do you acknowledge that it's quite possible in 30 years hybrids or fuel cells or some other "alternative fuel" cars could be the norm and gas engine cars could be very uncommon and unpopular? 2/21/2006 3:49:27 AM |
Honkeyball All American 1684 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I just hope this kind of thinking builds momentum." |
Amen2/21/2006 6:48:43 AM |
supercracker All American 7023 Posts user info edit post |
His new passion for fuel efficiency will more than likely die off after the '06 election. 2/21/2006 7:13:48 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's quite possible in 30 years hybrids or fuel cells or some other "alternative fuel" cars could be the norm and gas engine cars could be very uncommon and unpopular" |
They will likely become the norm, but I doubt that the gasoline cars will become unpopular. They in fact will probably become fairly popular just for the rarity of them, at least on more special cars, like muscle cars. I would drive something electric or hybrid to work, but I'm still gonna pimp my Z-28 with its big ass 350 wherever I want.
[Edited on February 21, 2006 at 7:23 AM. Reason : ]2/21/2006 7:14:30 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
wait... didn't bush promise support for alternative energy programs in his SOTU years ago? and didn't everything kinda fizzle out then? so what's changed that makes people think he'll really support it now? 2/21/2006 7:39:29 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, it'd be pretty sweet if your house produced enough electricity to run itself and feed more into the grid. Imagine getting a check from Progress Energy every month. " |
http://www.solarhouse.com/index2.htm2/21/2006 9:39:09 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
i don't believe a god damn word. He backtracked from his sotu statements THE NEXT DAY. 2/21/2006 9:47:42 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
well he didn't mean it literally 2/21/2006 10:04:12 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
i saw this yesterday
i was "startled"
maybe they found a way to run cars off of vague, ambiguous national plans 2/21/2006 10:07:30 AM |
XActoMan All American 843 Posts user info edit post |
Id be fine with electric cars as long as gasoline or equivlant fuels source for the internal combustion engine are still readly available.
Like said above, not a problem dring a hybrid to work but I want my play car to still be american muscle. 2/21/2006 11:06:42 AM |
2L8IWON All American 1826 Posts user info edit post |
^^ impressive.
[Edited on February 21, 2006 at 11:08 AM. Reason : marko] 2/21/2006 11:08:16 AM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
electricity isn't made by magic
i hope people get that part before they start wanting electric cars 2/21/2006 11:16:13 AM |
panthersny All American 9550 Posts user info edit post |
I support E85
I want this here now!!! 2/21/2006 11:36:03 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
^^ OMG, Josh isn't here, is he!?!?
I hate that bush says this shit and that people like DG respond to it. Bush has nothing to do with when or how we all go hybrid. It has to do with the price of gasoline and diesel.
[Edited on February 21, 2006 at 12:00 PM. Reason : ^] 2/21/2006 12:00:01 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "maybe they found a way to run cars off of vague, ambiguous national plans" |
energy independence in minutes!2/22/2006 3:49:45 PM |