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ssjamind
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism


http://www.friesian.com/existent.htm

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"The starkness and hopelessness of this problem is portrayed in an essay, "The Myth of Sisyphus" (1942), by another great French Existentialist, Albert Camus (1913-1960). In Greek mythology, Sisyphus, who had once deceived the gods and cheated death, was condemned for eternity to roll a stone up a hill. Every time he was about to complete his task, the stone would roll free back down to the bottom of the hill. Sisyphus would then have to start over again, even though the same thing would just happen again. Thus, the punishment of Sisyphus is a punishment just because it is an endless exercise in futility. Sisyphus is stuck in an eternally pointless task. Now, if the world and everything in it are also pointless, the lesson is that the task of Sisyphus is identical to every thing that we will ever be doing in life. We are no different from Sisyphus; and if his punishment makes the afterlife a hell for him, we are already living in that hell.

Presumably, Sisyphus is unable to escape his condition through suicide. So if we can, why not? Arguably, there is no reason why not. But suicide is not the typical Existentialist answer. What can Sisyphus do to make his life endurable? Well, he can just decide that it is meaningful. The value and purpose that objectively don't exist in the world can be restored by an act of will. Again, this is what has struck people as liberating about Existentialism. To live one's life, one must exercise the freedom to create a life. Just going along with conventional values and forgetting about the absurdity of the world is not authentic. Authenticity is to exercise one's free will and to choose the activities and goals that will be meaningful for one's self. With this approach, even Sisyphus can be engaged and satisfied with what he is doing. "

2/23/2006 10:55:22 AM

JWHWolf
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huh? Wrong section perhaps?

2/23/2006 11:00:04 AM

drunknloaded
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dude, unc fucking sucks

[Edited on February 23, 2006 at 11:00 AM. Reason : ^beat me]

2/23/2006 11:00:13 AM

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not by much though....

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2/23/2006 11:01:33 AM

ssjamind
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no

this is pertinent to being a loyal State fan

2/23/2006 11:10:10 AM

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"condemned for eternity to roll a stone up a hill. Every time he was about to complete his task, the stone would roll free back down to the bottom of the hill. Sisyphus would then have to start over again, even though the same thing would just happen again. "


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"What can Sisyphus do to make his life endurable? Well, he can just decide that it is meaningful. The value and purpose that objectively don't exist in the world can be restored by an act of will. ...Just going along with conventional values and forgetting about the absurdity of the world is not authentic. Authenticity is to exercise one's free will ..."




[Edited on February 23, 2006 at 11:17 AM. Reason : [Edited on February 23, 2006 at 11:17 AM. Reason : fdgdfg]]

2/23/2006 11:16:38 AM

Kodiak
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She said 'Fuckabees'

[Edited on February 23, 2006 at 11:19 AM. Reason : .]

2/23/2006 11:19:45 AM

JWHWolf
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ahhhhh, waxing philosophical on sports talk....

2/23/2006 11:19:57 AM

ssjamind
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neither Chuck nor Herb have empathy for the fans. they don't realise how important it is for us to beat those guys.

in their entire tenure, they've brought the A-game for Duke and FSU. i honestly cannot recall a single time where i could confidently say that they've done the same for Carolina.

and despite all that dissapointment, I will be at every game that i am able to attend, and will be cheering on the squad. despite the hopelessness, i choose to continue to push the ball up the hill.

don't get me wrong. i don't believe in fate, i believe in odds. i know by being a die-never State fan, that I am continually dealt a hand without any aces. i just refuse to fold.

2/23/2006 11:32:58 AM

ncevola
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^i agree with him, regardless of how ill placed this thread is

2/23/2006 11:39:34 AM

ssjamind
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its not ill placed--its a perspective on how to deal with the realities of being a Wolfpack fan

until we are baller $tatu$ enough to have an impact, all we will be doing is exercising our catharisis on the internet, to our peers, and other Wolfpackers.

we do not yet have the luxury of picking up our basket of wine & cheese, and leaving at halftime to go talk to the old boys about what needs to be done to "fix this".

instead of just bitching and moaning, im offering a perspective on how to deal with this and keep going

even if you have terminal cancer, you don't ever give up. having hope in a hopeless situation isn't foolish. rather its the very substance that makes life possible in a world of entropic chaos.

that's what being a part of the Pack is about.

i had to reach deep into my innards on a workday to turn these thoughts into words.

2/23/2006 11:54:46 AM

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aren't sports in general the eternal Sisyphisian struggle, after you win a championship, you have a couple months to enjoy it, then its starting from scratch again, its not like the Mayans that allowed the winners to be sacraficed and allowed to enter their afterlife. It is harder to stay on top then get to the top.

2/23/2006 12:50:16 PM

ssclark
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i <3 exestentialism

2/23/2006 1:13:12 PM

ssjamind
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bttt

2/25/2006 6:48:43 PM

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I dabble in Kierkegaard from time to time, but other than that, I'm not big on existentialism.

2/25/2006 7:01:55 PM

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