PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/412472.html
Quote : | "With a Super Bowl ring newly snug on his finger, Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher has little reason to leave Pittsburgh.
But he and his family appear to be planning for a future in Raleigh " |
Still ain't gonna happen, I just want to get everyone's hopes up
[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 9:12 AM. Reason : and I apologize if news is old... couldn't find it. Supposedly this was a few weeks ago]2/28/2006 8:59:16 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
If I was from here and could afford it, I would own atleast one home here no matter where I lived. I would always want the option of coming back once I got to a certain age/milestones in life. There's no place like Raleighwood. 2/28/2006 9:08:58 AM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
there is a thread about this somewhere, but it may have an inaccurate title and be lost in search 2/28/2006 9:10:18 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
haha
cowher will retire as the steelers head coach 2/28/2006 9:10:35 AM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure my mom would want season tickets to NC State football if he were the coach. My family and I are big steelers fans, and my dad and I are diehard NC State fans.
I don't think there's a chance in hell of him becoming the football coach at NC State ANY TIME SOON! 2/28/2006 9:16:10 AM |
Ihatespida All American 7520 Posts user info edit post |
I WISH TOMMY MADDOX GOT A PLACE IN RALEIGH...I WOULD THROW TRASH IN HIS YARD!! 2/28/2006 9:26:24 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
haha no way, i'd be too afraid he'd move back to pittsburgh if i did that 2/28/2006 9:29:39 AM |
Weeeees All American 23730 Posts user info edit post |
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2/28/2006 9:44:40 AM |
jbsmith Veteran 161 Posts user info edit post |
http://msweb01.co.wake.nc.us/realestate/Account.asp?id=0325140&stype=owner&owner=MLL&spg=1
^you beat me to it
[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 9:46 AM. Reason : a] 2/28/2006 9:45:56 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
cowher will coach here one day... Just wait a few seasons 2/28/2006 9:57:30 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's possible, but IF it happens, I think it'll be a while... 2/28/2006 10:22:27 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
my take on it all is that even though he has worked hard to get the steelers to where they are now, he has dealt with alot of shit along the way, and I am sure its been a stressful road.
Coming here, he would have huge support and a retirement all in one. Definately a different lifestyle, and guys like cowher dont need more than the millions he already has, so the paycheck alone wont be the deciding factor. 2/28/2006 10:44:05 AM |
kbncsufan All American 1504 Posts user info edit post |
Cowher really loves the Rooney's (sp?) though and I feel it would be kind of hard for him to leave that organization after all of the loyalty that they have shown him
It would def. be sweet and it would be interesting to see him coach this team w/ the stable of rb's that we have
i give it a 5% chance of ever happening 2/28/2006 10:51:08 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
It won't happen now, next year, or the year after or ever.
But if it did, it would be fucking awesome. 2/28/2006 10:59:12 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
there's not even 0.000001% chance of this happening. give it up guys. 2/28/2006 11:28:04 AM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill Clinton buys home in Raleigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's going to be our next GOVERNOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
enough with this horseshit! So Cowher bought a house in Raleigh. GET OVER IT! 2/28/2006 11:29:49 AM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
it wont happen, but how awsome would it be! State would be all over the national news and Cowher could call for more renovations than Chuck has and Cowher would receive an incredible amount of support. Oh to dream 2/28/2006 11:30:17 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus Christ nobody says its going to happen, everyone is saying that it would be pretty sweet.
Judging by our shit sports this year, I think we don't have much else to cling onto but broken dreams.
AMIRITE
IS THAT EMO/DEPRESSED ENOUGH FOR ALL OF YOU 2/28/2006 11:58:13 AM |
Defenestrate All American 2158 Posts user info edit post |
NCSU SPORTS HIGH HOPES LOW EXPECTATIONS 2/28/2006 12:12:42 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Aha...
Notice I said it's a pipe dream. Hell, let us have the thought.
I wouldn't say it'll never happen... not anytime soon, but it could. After you hit 50 or so and your kids begin getting the college age, maybe he'll want to settle down and not have to travel so often. (And for the record, I have no idea how old his kids are).
I do know he's a major contributor to the Wolfpack Club and still connected with the University. Will it ever happen, probably not. Am I ruling it out? Heck no.... maybe in 10 years or so... but I doubt it.
The funny thing is...remember the "Spurrier looking for houses in Raleigh" thing on Insidecarolina not long ago? Well, ours is proven
[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ] 2/28/2006 12:41:26 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
his oldest daughter plays basketball for princeton. his other two will both be in college in a few.
here is an article i found that mentions that somewhat. it's actually a pretty negative article about cowher in my opinion. http://www.pghsports.com/2005-Issues/psr0512/05120101.html
Quote : | "Unfulfilled Legacy Upper Echelon Eludes Cowher By Jerry DiPaola
Several years ago, when Three Rivers Stadium was still standing, two reporters were loafing in a small room the Steelers had set aside for the media.
In walks Steelers defensive coordinator Jim Haslett, whose goals and aspirations were greater than spending an entire career on coach Bill Cowher's staff. He looked at the reporters and asked, "How old is Cowher's youngest daughter?"
Strange question, indeed, but Haslett's thoughts always were and still are thought-provoking, if peculiar. Told that Lindsay Morgan was short of junior high school at the time, Haslett grimaced.
Explaining, Haslett said Cowher had made it known that he planned to coach the Steelers as long as one of his three daughters was still in high school.
Which was longer than Haslett planned to be a mere assistant in the National Football League.
Haslett, who left after the 1999 season to become head coach of the New Orleans Saints, was right. Now in his 14th year, Cowher remains a rock in the Steelers organization and probably will be far beyond this season.
By virtue of nine playoff berths -- and a 10th sure to follow in a few weeks -- Cowher, 48, has won the trust of the Rooney family, the respect of his peers in the coaching profession and the hearts, minds and battered bodies of his players, who work hard for him, sacrifice for him and win for him.
A good coach gets the most out of his players under all circumstances and Cowher -- with the exception of late-season collapses in 1998 and 1999 -- seldom fails on that count.
SHY OF GREATNESS
It can be argued with undisputable logic that Cowher's failures in the postseason leave him just shy of greatness and, therefore, unworthy for ultimate induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That's true. Painfully true for the Steelers' unreasonable legion of fans.
Cowher is not yet a great coach; maybe he never will be. He must win a Super Bowl -- or reach another -- for him to ascend that peak. But Cowher is a winning coach in the marathon of a regular season, and that's not such a bad thing.
With 130 regular-season victories in his first 13 seasons -- not counting the 7-3 start to 2005 -- Cowher averages 10 per year (even with the miserable seven-, six- and six-win seasons of 1998, 1999 and 2003).
Still, it's not enough. Fans demand victory every week, even if no NFL team has finished a season undefeated since 1972.
But it was Cowher who set the bar when he first insisted that the team will settle for nothing less than a Super Bowl championship.
Right now, he is failing -- some will say miserably - although right-thinking people won't go that far.
The Steelers entered the home stretch of the '05 season -- the final six games -- tied with the Cincinnati Bengals for first place in the AFC North that the Steelers have won two of the past three seasons.
Cowher has lost three close games this season -- two without Ben Roethlisberger at quarterback. A recent 16-13 loss to the hopeless Baltimore Ravens in overtime was a testament to questionable coaching.
Cowher admitted that plays were slow to get from the coaches' box to the sideline to quarterback Tommy Maddox's earpiece. That's inexcusable inefficiency that is hard to believe in the immaculately scripted NFL.
Consecutive option and pass plays on third-and fourth-and-1 both ended in failure.
Two carries for Jerome Bettis in a game where shaky play by Maddox demanded someone to prop him up left many people scratching their heads. It was the second time this season Cowher has ignored Bettis in a loss.
What was Cowher thinking?
SURVIVAL
But he is strong enough to survive such mistakes. The man has job security - another team would hire him about 11 seconds after he left the Steelers. Cowher knows how to run a team and survive the rigors of the NFL. You don't win that many games by accident.
A survivor? You bet.
Cowher's arrogance on that count is what sets him apart from most coaches.
Many years ago, respected veteran sportscaster Sam Nover -- long a Cowher antagonist -- was retiring and his employer, Channel 11, sent a film crew to training camp at St. Vincent College to record Cowher's thoughts on Nover's career.
After the camera had been shut off, Cowher smiled and said, in a playful tone, "One down and 19 of you other (guys) to go."
Cowher was kidding, of course, because he legitimately liked Nover and their back-and-forth dialogue at news conferences. Still, it's clear that Cowher knows he can outlast almost anyone.
But surviving Nover was the least of his conquests.
It was after the 1999 season that the Rooneys had a difficult decision to make, which -- in the end -- became no decision at all.
Cowher and director of football operations Tom Donahoe weren't speaking for a variety of reasons and hadn't been for a long time.
The event that sparked their wordless feud was Donahoe's assertion after an ugly playoff loss to the New England Patriots after the 1996 season that the team played "flat." Donahoe used that word when speaking to reporters in a private interview, and when Cowher was asked to elaborate at a news conference the next day, he snapped, "Ask Tom."
Three years later, Dan Rooney and his son Art Rooney II decided it was impossible to do business amid such acrimony and forced Donahoe's resignation.
Donahoe had been with the organization as a trusted, intelligent and hard-working employee for 14 years. Dan's father, Steelers founder Art Rooney Sr., was a good friend and associate of Donahoe's grandfather, former Pennsylvania Gov. David L. Lawrence. But that was the depth of Cowher's roots in the organization. It was easier for the Rooneys to replace a front-office executive, with whom the team had lesser contractual obligations, than to fire Cowher.
It would be difficult to find a head coach who will endure and win in the manner of Cowher, who has been with the team since 1992 and is one of only two coaches the organization has known since 1969.
Since winning the power struggle with Donahoe -- the man who was at least partially responsible for hiring him -- Cowher has received two contract extensions from the Steelers and is signed through the 2007 season at about $4 million per season.
Which brings up another point:
The Steelers have traditionally extended Cowher's contract when there were two seasons remaining on it. That is a clever ploy to avoid Cowher going into the final season without a new deal, a situation that would invite raiders.
The Steelers entered the final six games of this season as a contender for the Super Bowl, but certainly not the favorite to get there. If the Steelers fail -- again -- to win the Super Bowl, would the Rooneys give Cowher another, richer contract? If the Super Bowl is the goal and Cowher keeps missing it, should he be rewarded?
There might be debate within the organization, but most likely, Cowher will coach the Steelers for a long time -- until his youngest daughter is married and moved out of their Fox Chapel home, if that is his desire.
The Rooneys are comfortable with the devil they know when the devil they don't know probably would be worse. " |
[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 12:59 PM. Reason : ]2/28/2006 12:58:40 PM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
if i was cowher and had the money, i would buy a house here too... i love raleigh... been here my whole life...
but, there is no hardcore proof that this house is for him 2/28/2006 2:46:35 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39310 Posts user info edit post |
haha, bill cowher will coach here as soon as rick barnes leaves texas for raleigh 2/28/2006 2:50:13 PM |
rdunck All American 862 Posts user info edit post |
why would a successful nfl coach under a great nfl organization want to coach here? yes he is alum but still, its laughable 2/28/2006 5:53:10 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I just read the article. It says the neighborhood sits off Norwood Rd. There is a new neighborhood going up off Norwood, and I haven't seen how it's going to turn out. If it's it not in that new neighborhood, then it's probably Stonemoor, which is like "upscale" but totally shitty. Big houses, lots of fancy materials, but the lots are small with not that many trees, and the houses really don't look that good because they used too many materials and add-ons.
I suspect that he bought a home in a neighborhood off Old Creedmoor Rd., not Norwood Rd. The neighborhood is Lynville. It's the first "rich" neighborhood that I've seen built out here that actually got it right. It's less than a quarter mile up the street from me. The homes in there, some of them, are the only homes in Raleigh that I'd rather have over mine.
[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 5:53 PM. Reason : sss] 2/28/2006 5:53:11 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah, so ignore all that...I found out where it really is. It's 3.7 miles from my house off Norwood Rd. It's in a cul-de-sac that backs onto Falls Lake. I can't believe I didn't think of that before. 2/28/2006 7:11:28 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
you can whore yourself to him 2/28/2006 7:36:40 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
? I'm confused. 2/28/2006 7:39:25 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
he bought a house here because they want to retire here someday people. read the article. he isn't coming here to coach, he is coming here to live one day when he is old and more grey. damn 3/1/2006 12:25:04 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit... from SteelCityInsider.com (Scout.com site)
Quote : | "Cowher is looking to get out of Pittsburgh, at least as a resident. Cowher and his wife Kaye secured a million dollar home in Raleigh, NC, following the thousands of economic refugees who left Western Pennsylvania over the past few decades for sunnier climes. " |
Quote : | "Consider Cowher's coaching career complete, at least at the professional level. He made noise before and after the Super Bowl victory over the Seattle Seahawks about making good on his promise to the Rooneys when they hired him to bring another championship to Pittsburgh. Mission accomplished.
Cowher could retire now and end up in the Hall of Fame. Anything above and beyond the 2006 season is gravy. Purchasing a home in Raleigh at this stage of his career (they already own a summer home off the coast of North Carolina) only reinforces this sense of closure.
The Cowhers can return to the place where they met, North Carolina State University. Current college football head coach, Chuck Amato, is often mentioned as a replacement for Joe Paterno (Penn State) or Bobby Bowden (Florida State), when those two giants retire. Bigger things await Amato than Wolfpack football. " |
http://steelers.scout.com/2/503799.html
(Okay... probably just a theory and no "inside knowledge", but damn. From the Steelers website..and an article.. not message board stuff, no less.)
But they did show their lack of knowledge on the Amato comment
[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 4:07 PM. Reason : ]3/2/2006 4:05:30 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39310 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "is often mentioned as a replacement for Joe Paterno (Penn State)" |
thats funny seeing as how i have never heard that in my life, that and the fact they named his succesor like 2 years ago3/2/2006 4:09:23 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
I heard rumblings of that during Chuck's 11 win season. He's originally from there, and a lot of folks were speculating they'd look into him.
Who's is Paterno's successor? 3/2/2006 4:11:11 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
AHAHAHAHA
IS THAT A FUCKING JOKE
CHUCK TAKING OVER FOR JOEPA
AHAHAHHA
OR MAYBE BOWDEN
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
WHAT THE FUCKING HELL
seriously though
is there any precedent for a superbowl winning, well-loved, tenured nfl coach leaving to coach for his struggling alma mater
you guys need to get your heads out of your asses
i will eat bill cowhers shit in the middle of the brickyard if he ever comes to coach here
[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 4:14 PM. Reason : ] 3/2/2006 4:11:39 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39310 Posts user info edit post |
^^ they havent named one specific person, i've always read that Joe Pa insists that his succesor will be within the penn state family and maybe even from his staff 3/2/2006 4:16:02 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i will eat bill cowhers shit in the middle of the brickyard if he ever comes to coach here" |
Although unlikely to ever happen (I just found this article interesting), I'm saving this quote.
^Also, the Chuck Amato thing was well-circulated... but that was also before he took a nosedive into mediocrity (Not that he was great, but he showed promise early on. He's proven to not be worthy of a Penn State nowadays, obviously. Plus, they'll go younger I think. No chance in Hell Amato gets mentioned)
[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 4:23 PM. Reason : ]3/2/2006 4:16:14 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
chuck amato is about top 3 on FSU's list. that is no lie. also when he won 11 games he was the #1 option for PSU. Just because he is sucking here doesnt mean the grass isnt greener somewhere else. watch in 10 years well be like man he sucked ass here and now look what hes doing at ________ fill in the university. 3/2/2006 4:31:01 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "watch in 10 years well be like man he sucked ass here and now look what hes doing at St. Augustine's" |
seriously though
what do you mean "that's no lie"
did the FSU AD call you up and tell you this
where the hell are you getting your concrete information
is this guy fabulus
[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : ]3/2/2006 4:35:22 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 5:10 PM. Reason : .] 3/2/2006 4:42:45 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
lol 3/2/2006 4:47:07 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
I'm Rick James, BITCH!!!!! 3/2/2006 4:48:00 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ How about we just take your post and leave it...
[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 4:51 PM. Reason : 6] 3/2/2006 4:51:31 PM |
JohnnyPenis Veteran 171 Posts user info edit post |
you're a fuckin moron 3/2/2006 6:18:52 PM |