...for web hosting.

What type of price range are we looking at here, guys?

Mike

2/28/2006 11:22:46 AM

ooo ooo ooo...
..and...

alternatives?

I'm looking to host registered member login website accounts; just little bitty ones with like 20-30mb disc space, reasonable bandwidth transfer, and some basic sitebuilding/template tools.

It's for a project I'm working on with school, so I'm not really looking to spend a gazillion dollars a month on it.

Seriously though, 150 a month is not reasonable.

If I can do this without a dedicated service, i.e. a regular hosting service that gives me 10gb of disk space, and X gigs of transfer bandwidth, and somehow figure out a way to enable individual accounts within mine, I'm down.

Even subdomains would be okay.

Mike

2/28/2006 11:27:27 AM

The standard, cheapest setup at Dreamhost, which I highly recommend, is:
$150 per month -- no prepay
or
$125 per month -- quarterly prepay
or
$99 per month -- yearly prepay

Plus, if you pm me, I can get you a discount off of that.

includes:

# Pentium IV (non Celeron!)
# 512 MB RAM
# 30 GB usable IDE storage
# 60 GB IDE backup drive
# 4 TB bandwidth per month

I highly recommend dreamhost for the fast management apps, 99.999% uptime, and quick support responses.

2/28/2006 11:32:33 AM

Oh... well then a regular shared hosting package with dreamhost is prolly even better.

Mine is 120 per year for all that you mentioned above... lets see --

1114GB bandwidth per month ($1/GB over)
22640.000 MB disk space($0.10 / MB over)
unlimited mySQL, lots of one click addons like message boards, formmail, ect.


I can get you a discount off that too... very very cheap

Also unlimited domains, and you can add users access to give them management rights to certain directories and ftp access and other things.

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 11:38 AM. Reason : .]

2/28/2006 11:36:38 AM

Quote :

"Seriously though, 150 a month is not reasonable. "

Then you're not getting a dedicated server. MY dedicated server is under $100, but that's because I dropped a $500 down payment on it about two years ago. Nowadays most businesses don't seem to be offering such a deal.

2/28/2006 11:44:57 AM

Try looking at reseller accounts.

2/28/2006 11:46:32 AM

Stein; that's sorta why I threw in the latter post.

I thought about it and realized that maybe that's what I needed instead; a hosting service that allows people to register independently. That'd probably actually work better for me.

And in subdomain form if at all possible.

Thoughts?

Each of my "clients" would need access to a basic site building program, templates, etc. It's meant to be as easy as possible..

Mike

2/28/2006 11:50:23 AM

Darkone; any tips?

Mike

PS: I'm not going to be charging my clients for this...

2/28/2006 11:51:26 AM

you are willing to spend this much on a "project with school"?

2/28/2006 11:52:54 AM

There is some small degree of personal gratification in doing this; it has to do with grad school. But yea, I'm okay in paying some reasonable amount for it...

Mike

2/28/2006 11:53:37 AM

just use ncsu's space, you won't find a better connection or better uptime. the only issue is I don't think they have screen on the unity servers so you'd have to keep up an open terminal 24/7. this is assuming you need more than flat html/css/flash. I think you can even do php if you pay the university.

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 12:00 PM. Reason : you'll have to source your own templates]

2/28/2006 11:59:39 AM

This might be a permanent fixture, though.

Mike

2/28/2006 12:02:02 PM

so move it if it becomes one, you're gonna have to get a dns anyway. you can point the dns at a new host at anytime without the end user noticing

2/28/2006 12:15:35 PM

Understood.

I understand waht you're saying though, but my days here are numbered..i'll have to see how the numbers work out.

Mike

Thanks

2/28/2006 12:18:37 PM

^
Quit signing your dern posts with your real name ... this isn't email

If this is something permanent ... what specific technologies do you need for the website? If you end up with hosting that doesn't support whatever you want to do the site in, you are going to be in a world of hurt.

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 12:28 PM. Reason : .]

2/28/2006 12:25:59 PM

^ Understood

And in terms of technology, not entirely sure yet. That's why I want to see what's available. I've pretty much specified what I need;

- some type of site building tools that are accessible to an end user
- the ability for users to register accounts (subdomains) within the website (obviously design side, as well...)
- the ability for the user to "login" to their account in order to create their website
- email account (1) for the user.
- a given level of disk space, bandwidth, etc.

that's about it, I believe.

Mike

2/28/2006 12:31:52 PM

you just want to run a hosting company?

2/28/2006 12:35:29 PM

Yeah but at the same time, not really.

And here's why; because it's a small project.

And I'd like to have the capability of eventually making it larger.

but for right now, I don't foresee more than 10-15 accounts in the near future.

Mike

2/28/2006 12:37:26 PM

starting another thread that's a little more on topic...

Mike

2/28/2006 2:05:24 PM

Dedicated server prices range from $49 to $800+. A basic entry-level server from a decent provider is going to be at least $99/mo.

2/28/2006 3:45:51 PM

1.) buy my dual-p3 (650mhz x 2) scsi server (60gb) with 512mb of pc133 for $250
2.) DynDNS
3.) ...
4.) profit

2/28/2006 3:58:21 PM

what about a colocation place in the triangle??

2/28/2006 4:06:59 PM

^ I offer colocation. PM for details.

2/28/2006 4:21:17 PM

http://www.rackshack.net used to be ultra cheap

2/28/2006 5:37:29 PM

A Dell PowerEdge 2850 Web Server we recently spec'd and ordered was about $3500. The minimum needed on a 2850 is about $2000. This does NOT include the cost of any of the software licenses required. Beyond this, your largest issue will be finding a backbone to support the amount of bandwidth you are looking to support. And then the guarantee of uptime with a backup UPS. As somebody mentioned ... colocation would be nice.

You can also go with the stand-alone SC tower's for a lower price. You run into a few more issues of colocation ... b/c then you can't just throw it into a rack.

2/28/2006 8:50:09 PM

^ a "dedicated server" in the hosting industry means that the hosting provider owns the server hardware and rents it to you along with connectivity for a monthly price. colocation would mean that the customer owns the server hardware, licenses, etc.

2/28/2006 8:51:33 PM