hey im looking to breed my female she is in heat now the male i wanted her to breed with is too big of a puss and i need another male asap.......

3/1/2006 8:55:22 PM

i love pit bulls...but i'm not a purist - i like pit/lab mixes better

3/1/2006 8:57:34 PM

labs are too unpredictable....people think pits are but ive seen alot more lab bites than anything else

3/1/2006 8:59:41 PM

please do not breed your dog. not because of the breed, but obviously you do not know what you are doing, since a real breeders already has planned mates, even years in advance.

[Edited on March 1, 2006 at 9:06 PM. Reason : asd]

3/1/2006 9:06:12 PM

i worked at a vet/kennel as a technician for more than 6 years...truth be told, i never once dealt with a lab that was anything but gentle, and i never met a pit that wasn't high-strung (in a playful way)...i'd disagree with you concerning labs being unpredictable, but i wouldn't say pits are, either...they just get a bad rap because of their history and you see them being brought in from dog fights

3/1/2006 9:08:12 PM

im not a breeder, and years in advance? is that what someone told you....they lied...im not breeding her for a living...it is good for most dogs to breed atleast once....remember nature wants things to breed.....

3/1/2006 9:09:44 PM

on the lab comment.....you also have to figure in how many labs are in every city....of coarse it would be more common, labs are still great but.....its all in how you raise any dog

3/1/2006 9:11:15 PM

listen dude, do not breed the fucking dog. i use to breed dogs. you do not know what you are in for. just please adpot pets from the shelter. i hate fucking goddamn idiots like you.

3/1/2006 9:11:25 PM

tisk tisk

you should have been thinking about this in 2001!

3/1/2006 9:11:39 PM

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"good for most dogs to breed atleast once."

also, this is a goddamn lie. i really know now that you are an idiot. please please, leave that fucking dog alone and get her fixed.

3/1/2006 9:12:35 PM

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"i worked at a vet/kennel as a technician for more than 6 years...truth be told, i never once dealt with a lab that was anything but gentle"

i worked at a vet clinic for 2 years, in the animals shelter for 1 year, and in a animal research lab that used canines, and 90% of the labs that i dealt with we stupid, and/or not well behaved - fyi 90% of these labs i encountered were at the vet clinic.

3/1/2006 9:23:50 PM

yeah, really. there are too many shelter dogs for people to be breeding theirs.

3/1/2006 9:26:04 PM

seedless your just a piece of shit that has no life so they need to waste other peoples time.........fuck off you think you know too much....its making you the fucking idiot....just grow up and find something else to do...........i dont think i asked for your opinion matter a fact!!

3/1/2006 9:27:07 PM

i hope the reason you are breeding is because she has a championship bloodline (and the male should also). Otherwise please dont breed just because you can or because you want money. There are already enough pitbulls in shelters here and many more killed everyday.

[Edited on March 1, 2006 at 9:29 PM. Reason : a]

3/1/2006 9:27:20 PM

never mind i should of known it was just a bunch of dumb fucks

3/1/2006 9:29:03 PM

why do you want to breed?

3/1/2006 9:46:38 PM

he doesn't even know himself. oh i think i know - he likes the breed... why? he can't answer that question either.

3/1/2006 9:48:05 PM

I kinda agree with seedless on this one. Dogs need responsible breeders who know what they are doing. And have you thought about the possibility of complications? Do you have money for a c-section? What if mom and all the pups require vet care? What if mom dies, are you prepared to hand feed pups every 2 hours? Do you have homes lined up for the pups? Especially with pits, you NEED responsible owners and breeders. Please consider everything before you breed her just because she's in heat.

3/1/2006 9:54:37 PM

thx sugar

3/1/2006 10:00:46 PM

wow hand feed every two hours? what a task....

btw I like your fav. quote seedless. ^_^

3/1/2006 10:12:06 PM

I don't even know where to start on this one.

The world does not need any more unwanted dogs.
Your dog will be much healthier if you have her spayed immediately.
Dogs DO NOT "need" to breed once. That is absurd.

3/1/2006 10:15:40 PM

I had a friend who bred his pit and gave the pups away to other friends. Dogs fucking is not rocket science. I don't really see the big deal as long as he makes sure the puppies go to good homes. It's not this guy's fault that there are a bunch of dogs in shelters.

3/1/2006 10:54:07 PM

i say we ask the dog what it would like to do.

3/2/2006 1:43:04 AM

^^ the point is that if someone really wants a pet, just about any dog would do - no matter breed (whether is a mutt or not, puppy or grown dog etc) it is. not only that, you have to know what complications that may arise, and what to do - also you need to have good knowledge about dogs in general - him saying that most dogs need to be bred at least once showed that he obviously is not knowledgeable enough to be breeding dogs.

3/2/2006 8:01:14 AM

your not going to stop this person, so instead of flaming them give them some help to make sure everything turns out ok.


before breeding be POSITIVE neither parent comes from a fighting line, check atleast the last 4-5 generations. pits can be awesome pets, but their lineage can make or break them. get both dogs certified as healthy breeders by a veterinarian. and make sure you start finding homes today! research those homes as well.


good luck!

3/2/2006 8:07:03 AM

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"before breeding be POSITIVE neither parent comes from a fighting line"

fyi, the breed is a fight breed, there is NO WAY to avoid that, what you can avoid is inbred, and linebred dogs, which usually are crazy (this is true with any breed) because of the conservative breeding, which will most likely produce crazy dogs. so yeah, checking pedigrees to make sure that you are breeding to a scatter bred dog ( has had no relatives bred together in at least the last 3 gens) is a very good idea.

i agree with everything else you said.








[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 8:18 AM. Reason : f]

3/2/2006 8:11:05 AM

well, atleast try to make sure the dog, its parents, and its grandparents were not fought...

[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 8:18 AM. Reason : if possible.....i know it is hard]

3/2/2006 8:17:29 AM

^ that means nothing, actually
it is HOW it was bred. trust me i bred very rare pitbull strains for 7 years before giving up, due to money issues.

[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 8:19 AM. Reason : s]

3/2/2006 8:19:16 AM

these are the last dogs i had. they are linebred nutt-nutt/bolio/paladin breed. and no i did fight them. i helped a friend with some puppies once, and it turned inot me breeding them.



I had as many at 15 at one time and 2-3 litters on hand. then i sold them all. ended up buying a few back, breed them, made puppies, resold the parents... after 2 years i ended up selling these two. it was a heartbreaker., becasue i actually established somewhat of a breed of my own, but money issues, and college forced me to let them go. now that i think about it, it was a bad idea to breed them, and now all i want is a pet. never will i ever go down that road again.

[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 8:26 AM. Reason : s]

3/2/2006 8:22:55 AM

i've always thought the fighting was in their blood...think i heard it on some animal planet show or something...or from some wolfwebber mouthing off. it's good to know dogs bred from fighting dogs aren't all doomed to be vicious.


the more you know




i've always wanted to breed maine coons or norwegien (sp?) forest cats, but I can't bring myself to do it. all my cats have been strays that I took in. i think i'll settle for starting a breed specific rescue one day

[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 8:25 AM. Reason : too cute! ^]

3/2/2006 8:23:11 AM

oh yeah, breeding dogs is a very vicious cycle - not saying that about this guy who started this thread. just want people to be aware the this breed get is bad name from bad owners, and sometimes HOW it is bred.

3/2/2006 8:28:19 AM

btw, that is ladybug on the right (i loved her dearly), and that is zeus on the man - he was the mofo man. they were only 6 months olds in those pics. i have more pix to share. maybe i will post them here sometimes. i wish i had pic of every dog that i owned or either cared for. you would be amazed.

3/2/2006 8:31:07 AM

[quote]it is good for most dogs to breed atleast once....remember nature wants things to breed.....

Who in their right mind has told you this? I hate it when I hear uneducated people say this. And as for champion blood lines, very unlikely. Pit Bulls are not an official breed recognized by the AKC.

3/2/2006 10:00:57 AM

is the pit bull the official name? or is it like a staffordshire bull terrrier or something like that?

3/2/2006 10:06:14 AM

they are an official breed, just recognized by the akc. the only reason is the pitbulls have no standard conformation, or color. the sizes, chest dept, color range, etc etc are just of a range that is too broad to seperate them, eg miniture, standard, giant. usually a strain of pitbull can be recognized by body formation or color - this is not always true though. usually you have a good line of dogs that only put out cponfromation and color of the parents or grandparents - this is just a rule of thumb. eg, red boy - jocko dogs are usually buckskin red, or tan in color, and have red noses. all this is empirical observation of myself ,and of old-timers that made me knowledgeable of the breed. fyi, when you talk pitbull to a real pit fan, use the term bulldog instead of pitbull.

3/2/2006 10:12:26 AM

^^ american pit bull terrier

3/2/2006 10:12:49 AM

well, how the 'american pit bull' came about is when the staff was imported (which is the show counter-part of the apbt) were bred to american bulldogs. fyi, EVERY pitbull line that i have ever traced when back to the colby bloodline. there is just so much to know about these dogs that it would be impossible for me to post it here.

3/2/2006 10:15:24 AM

NorthtoSouth is a fucking idiot. Not only because of his desire to breed his dog (while being completely ignorant about it) but he cannot even decide which form of your or you're to use.

3/2/2006 10:16:45 AM

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"it is good for most dogs to breed atleast once....remember nature wants things to breed..... "

Has your dog told you specifically that she wants to breed.
I'm sure as soon as she reached exual maturity all she's been thinkin about it being bred and havign puppies.... sure its instinct. but she's not going to realize the difference if you spay her and she never has puppies.
raising puppies is stressfull on your dog as well as you.
have you ever watched 2 dogs breed? if not be prepared to be shocked when the 2 dogs are "stuck" together and your female is yelping in pain trying to get away from the male. while his enlarged penis is literally stuck inside of her. yes this is normal. it can take some time for the swelling to go down. i dont think your female will be too happy then.

you are sexually mature. does that mean you should be out trying to impregnant every female you come across just because nature wants to breed? or should I, having a functional uterus get knocked up because thats the way nature wants it? NO - its not practical.


there is so much controversy surrounding pit bulls. for example, Johnston county just broke up a 47 dog fighting ring. those dogs are now going to be stuck in the animal control shelter until the court case is tried. meanwhile those dogs are taking up space at the shelter and all other animals coming in will be turned away or euthanized immediately. landlords, cities, and counties are placing breed specific bans on pit bulls and other dogs. theres is breed specific legislation in the works right now that could ban even more pit bulls. do i think this is fair? not really.

but it furthur stereotypes pits and make its harder for them to be accepted. most parents with children dont want a pitbull, chow, rott or any other stereotyped animal in their home. do i think this is fair? no. but you cant relly blame alot of them... they see on the news these pit bull fighting rings, etc...
the meanest dog i've ever dealt with was my mothers cocker spaniel. my chihuaha/beagle mix at home is the one who's most likely to bite a stranger.


unless you are a registered breeder with experience and the expertise to understand what the hell you're doing, the dog has championship bloodlines, have homes lined up for all potential puppies, the money in the bank to support all of the medical costs that could arise, the commitment to find each puppy a responsible owner who will raise the animal correctly and make a lifelong commitment to it as well, and if you cant find homes you will keep the animals until you do so = YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BREEDING YOUR DOG.

you havent answered the question? why do you want to bred your female?
are you going to be improving the breed? obviously you're not being picky about what stud you use. is she vet-checked? is her temperment sound?


i've worked in vets, shelters, with breeders, volunteer and foster for a rescue org, know people who work in every sort of field relating to dogs. i have 8 dogs at my house right now. 4 are mine, 1 is my roommates, and 3 foster puppies i pulled from a hi-kill shelter.
these puppies were owner surrenders, their parents were bred for whatever reason, or accident, and the owner didnt or couldnt find homes for them so they dumped them at a hi-kill animal control center, who's policy is to gass all ownersurrenders in 3 days. there is nothing wrong with these puppies.


btw i have lab/pit mix. he was rescued from a VERY abusive home. most likely involved in fighting.
he is the sweetest dog in the world but i've had to work with him alot to get him where he is today.


the odds are if your mind is made up and you relly want to bred your dog, you're going to do anyway. my advice is do research everything listed above.. find a stud who's temperment is sound, has no history of aggression, maybe passed a CGC test, etc... if bloodlines are important, which they should be, check them out.
Find a breed registry in your area. There are Pit Bull breed clubs in the area as well.

be prepared for the worst (medical costs, health problems etc...) and make sure you have the time and commitment to do this.

if you want some help, i would be willing to help you contact some people who might be able to help you. but they might have the same questions we've all asked you.

[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 11:53 AM. Reason : f]

3/2/2006 11:53:12 AM

^see, this is what happens when a sexually mature female DOESNT get knocked up, she doesnt shut the fuck up

Come take this dick, young whore, I'll fill you up with my love and fulfill your purpose as a woman

3/2/2006 12:51:50 PM

thanks for the offer
but i'm all set, was laid this morning, last night, and am otherwise satisfied.


have you ever been around a pregnant women? haha. good luck getting her to shut up

3/2/2006 1:24:29 PM

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"they are an official breed, just recognized by the akc"

No, they are not. Staffordshire Bull Terriers are. They are totally different breeds. I am friends with the Raleigh representative of the AKC, and they have specific reasons for not registering pit bulls, and I highly doubt those will every changed. Pits are, however, recognized by the lesser UKC, United Kennel Club.

3/2/2006 2:03:15 PM

they are an officicial breed, just not recognized by the akc. just because they are not akc registerable does not mean that they are not a pure breed. those dogs have been around much longer than A LOT of the breeds that the akc recognizes. honestly, the akc is full of it.

3/2/2006 2:07:23 PM

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"They are totally different breeds."

no they are not. search the origin on the american pit bull terrier. apbt was derived from the staff.

3/2/2006 2:08:19 PM

fyi

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"The AKC decided to register Pit Bulls but under a different name - the Staffordshire Terrier, which was later changed to the American Staffordshire Terrier in 1972, or AST. Up until 1936, Pit Bulls and AST’s were physically identical. After 1936, AST’s were bred solely for conformation and their breed requirements became much more stringent. APBT’s were being bred for both performance (fighting) as well as conformation shows and the breed’s standard became much more lenient. The AST’s, phenotypically, became “flashier” with blockier heads, larger chests and a thicker jaw while the APBT’s varied phenotypically from lanky to stocky. Although the phenotypic expression varied in the APBT, relative weight, size and proportion remained constant and dogs over 60lbs were rarely seen. Both AST’s and APBT’s were bred to be exceptionally sturdy and extremely human friendly, not to mention athletic, courageous, and tenacious."

that supports my point here

Quote :

"they are an official breed, just recognized by the akc. the only reason is the pitbulls have no standard conformation, or color. the sizes, chest dept, color range, etc etc are just of a range that is too broad to seperate them, eg miniture, standard, giant. usually a strain of pitbull can be recognized by body formation or color - this is not always true though. usually you have a good line of dogs that only put out cponfromation and color of the parents or grandparents - this is just a rule of thumb. eg, red boy - jocko dogs are usually buckskin red, or tan in color, and have red noses. all this is empirical observation of myself ,and of old-timers that made me knowledgeable of the breed. fyi, when you talk pitbull to a real pit fan, use the term bulldog instead of pitbull."

[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 2:11 PM. Reason : s]

3/2/2006 2:10:46 PM

thanks lutra and skack everyone else fuck off....if i have puppies i already have homes for atleast 4 of them....the pits that should be bred are the well tempered relaxed ones....and that is what my female is.....so pm me if you have a nice healthy male

3/2/2006 2:11:46 PM

this xchix is starting to make me think that she needs to gain basic knowledge of pitbulls before opening her mouth. she porbably has general dog knowlegde, but i have that , and i have breed specfic knowledge with the bulldog

[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 2:14 PM. Reason : v]

3/2/2006 2:14:18 PM

this seedless character should probably learn how to spell

and i didnt mention anything about the AKC



[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 2:16 PM. Reason : n]

3/2/2006 2:15:27 PM

wtf people, this is the CLASSIFIEDS, if you have a pit to breed with the man's dog, talk to him, if not stfu

3/2/2006 2:16:40 PM

pitbull is the correct way. for real though, don't test my knowledge on this breed. you will never win. i have enough experience, have talked to old and new pit fans form across the county, read countless books, etc

3/2/2006 2:17:07 PM