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3/6/2006 4:17:34 PM

^ the first post I've agreed with

3/6/2006 4:24:42 PM

I didn't read this whole thread, but this is my opinion on the original post:

You are so full of shit its not even funny. God never forbid interracial marriage because of black and white issues, he forbid the jews to marry people from diffferent religious backgrounds. Solomon married a black woman. Read Song of Solomon and you will see. Also, Ruth was of a different race but became acceptable to be married to Boaz because she had converted to be a jew. God was not concerned with the mixing of colors as he was the mixing of religious ideologies. Back in the day, it was "politically correct" that if you marry outside of your religious tradition, the household would adopt both respected deities in their home. THAT is what God was against.

3/6/2006 9:05:23 PM

page 3 needs more hasidic hip hop

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4576569031489257638&q=matisyahu

3/6/2006 11:39:08 PM

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"Call it "semantics" or whatever you want. That's not distracting from the fact that you are dead wrong and are lying. You have CLEARLY made "claims" in this thread. Apparantly, you just forgot about them, and you now don't want to admit that you were wrong."

"Main Entry: 1claim
Pronunciation: 'klAm
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French clamer, from Latin clamare to cry out, shout; akin to Latin calare to call -- more at LOW
1 a : to ask for especially as a right <claimed the inheritance> b : to call for : REQUIRE <this matter claims our attention> c : TAKE 16b <the accident claimed her life>
2 : to take as the rightful owner <went to claim their bags at the station>
3 a : to assert in the face of possible contradiction : "

Stating the truth isn't a claim. Nor is it a claim to correct the ramblings of a simpleton who has no grasp of reality.

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"Does this not demonstrate that you have a hard time admitting when you are wrong?"

No, it demonstrates that you are a dismal failure who clings to the posibility of any small victory.

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"How many times do you have to repeat the things I am saying? Is that how you expect to distract from my legitimate criticisms of you?"

Do you patent common phrases in your spare time? Why do you want to criticize someone simply for having a different opinion than you? Isn't that what the Zionists do?

3/7/2006 12:06:56 AM

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"God never forbid interracial marriage because of black and white issues, he forbid the jews to marry people from diffferent religious backgrounds."

No. God forbid the Israelites from intermixing with other races, as the passages of scripture I referenced clearly show.

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"Solomon married a black woman."

God strongly disapproved of Solomon's foreign wives, who brought him many troubles and caused him to commit idolatry.

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"God was not concerned with the mixing of colors as he was the mixing of religious ideologies."

He was clearly concerned with the mixing of the Israelites with the other races. The Israelites were a special chosen people, and were not to corrupt their bloodline with the other races.

Deuteronomy 7:3 "Neither shalt thou make marriages with them: thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son."

Exodus 33:16 "So shall we be separated, I and all of Thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth."

3/7/2006 8:11:05 AM

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"God strongly disapproved of Solomon's foreign wives, who brought him many troubles and caused him to commit idolatry. "

There you go...

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"God never forbid interracial marriage because of black and white issues, he forbid the jews to marry people from diffferent religious backgrounds."

Bears repeating.

3/7/2006 8:37:09 AM

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"Bears repeating."

And who's words were those? Oh, right. TheTabbyCat. Well you can be a disciple of TheTabbyCat if you wish. I have the words of God on my side. I choose to believe and follow His words.

And I think His Word bears repeating:

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"Ezra 9:2 "For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the HOLY SEED have MIXED themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this TRESPASS ." Nehemiah 9:2 "And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all STRANGERS and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers." Nehemiah 13:3 "Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the MIXED multitude." Hosea 5:7 "They have dealt treacherously against YAHWEH: for they have begotten STRANGE children:" Note: "Strangers" above in Nehemiah 9:2 is from the Hebrew word "nekar" (meaning "a foreigner" or an "alien"). And the word "strange" from Hosea 5:7 is from the Hebrew word "zuwr" meaing "a foreigner." If you don't believe me, check in Strong's Concordance and a Hebrew/Greek lexicon. Strong's Concordance: http://www.tgm.org/bible.htm Hebrew and Greek Lexicon: http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html"

3/7/2006 8:42:44 AM

touched by his noodly appendage, eh?

3/7/2006 8:46:34 AM

Actually I try to be a disciple of Christ. It just so happens that in this case I think that TheTabbyCat's comments reflect the words of Christ more than yours do on this subject.

James 2:8-9: If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

[Edited on March 7, 2006 at 8:52 AM. Reason : -]

3/7/2006 8:51:32 AM

More:

Deuteronomy 23:2: "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord, even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord."

The word "bastard" above is Strong's #04464 (from Strong's Concordance).

Check Strong's # here:
http://www.tgm.org/bible.htm

Strong's #04464 is the Hebrew word "Mamzer", which is defined as "a mongrel" or person of mixed-race.

Check definition of "bastard" or word 4464 (Hebrew) here:
http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html


Therefore, the true meaning of this passage is that mongrels or offspring of mixed-race cannot become one of God's people until after the 10th generation. After the 10th generation, the person would have only 1/1024 (0.1% or 0.001) non-Israelite (non-white) blood in their veins. This shows how seriously God views racial purity.


But God doesn't care about race, and he didn't forbid his people from mixing with the other races, riiiiight?

3/7/2006 8:54:38 AM

So everything God said in the Bible ia applicable for modern-day "real" Israelites?

3/7/2006 8:58:09 AM

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"So everything God said in the Bible ia applicable for modern-day "real" Israelites?"

Matthew 5:17-19 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I change not"

3/7/2006 9:19:13 AM

Answer my question - don't bother quoting a Bible verse. Just tell me what you think (if that's even possible).

3/7/2006 9:32:21 AM

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"Just tell me what you think (if that's even possible)."

Oh, right. I haven't been giving my own thoughts in this thread or in any of my other posts.

3/7/2006 9:40:49 AM

So everything God said in the Bible ia applicable for modern-day "real" Israelites?

3/7/2006 9:44:18 AM

Wow. I never responded to that question before.

3/7/2006 10:01:01 AM

If you have before (without quoting Bible verses that can mean several things) then indulge me by repeating yourself.

3/7/2006 10:12:36 AM

and by modern day jews, you mean whites, right?

3/7/2006 10:17:00 AM

The commandments regarding racial purity and segregation are certainly applicable to modern-day Israelites.

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"and by modern day jews, you mean whites, right?"

He didn't ask about "jews". He ask about ISRAELITES. The terms "Israelite" and "Jew" are NOT synonymous.

But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent.

3/7/2006 10:24:13 AM

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"The commandments regarding racial purity and segregation are certainly applicable to modern-day Israelites."

So you can pick and choose which commandments are applicable?

Or are just the commandments that fit into your agenda applicable?

3/7/2006 10:29:33 AM

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"So you can pick and choose which commandments are applicable?"

Did I ever say that? No.

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"Or are just the commandments that fit into your agenda applicable?"

Are you trying to put words in my mouth? I think "yes."

3/7/2006 10:32:23 AM

This should be posted in every salisburyboy thread. I hate to even provide it. salisburyboy might start using it for a reference to his claims in future threads.

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2413

3/7/2006 10:33:05 AM

Smear by association tactics!! Associating me with UFO believers and a silly cartoon?

How am I to counter these powerful arguments?

3/7/2006 10:36:21 AM

I'm sure you'll come up with something nonsensical.

3/7/2006 10:37:16 AM

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"So you can pick and choose which commandments are applicable?"

Did I ever say that? No.

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Great - then how do you decide which "commandments" are applicable and which are not?

3/7/2006 10:38:11 AM

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

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"But, yes, we are assuming the modern-day descendants of the Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent."

3/7/2006 10:39:15 AM

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"Great - then how do you decide which "commandments" are applicable and which are not? "

Why don't you tell me? Don't you have all the answers?

3/7/2006 10:39:21 AM

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"Why don't you tell me? Don't you have all the answers?"

erudite: 1

salisburyboy: 0

3/7/2006 11:17:26 AM

Deuteronomy 14:2 "For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth. "

Consider that God commands racial purity for the Israelites, and told them to remain seperate from the other races. They are his special people, "above all the nations on the earth." This just occured to me....OMG!, is God an "Israelite Supremacist"?!

Could that mean God is {*oh the horror*} a "White Supremacist"?!

3/7/2006 12:39:18 PM

SUPERMAN COULDN'T EVEN MAKE THAT KIND OF LEAP MAN

3/7/2006 12:41:08 PM

Noodleotomy 21:5 "For thou shall not blaspheme against thy saviour, the LORD thy Noodle. The Noodle hath chosen thee, meatballs, to be a peculiar people unto himself, being both meat and spherical and not Noodly in nature."

OMF IT'S FROM MY HOLY BOOK AND I'LL INTERPRET IT HOWEVER I WANT AND IT'S GOTTA BE TRUE!!!!1

[Edited on March 7, 2006 at 12:43 PM. Reason : *]

3/7/2006 12:42:34 PM

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"OMF IT'S FROM MY HOLY BOOK AND I'LL INTERPRET IT HOWEVER I WANT AND IT'S GOTTA BE TRUE!!!!1"

It's ok. You don't have to subscribe to any of those religions with "holy" books.

You can worship Bush and the those with R's by their name. Or, for those of the other flavor, you can worship at the altar of the Politically-Correct/Multiculturalist/Diversity/Tolerance Cult. There are many options.



[Edited on March 7, 2006 at 12:51 PM. Reason : `]

3/7/2006 12:49:06 PM

i interpret that passage to mean that you're a nutjob.

and by your logic, it's gotta be true.

REFUTE IT.

it is true, but not because of that passage.

[Edited on March 7, 2006 at 12:57 PM. Reason : *]

3/7/2006 12:52:59 PM

you're the one saying that the Norse are the true isrealites

and you're going to say we're the ones drinking to kool aid?

3/7/2006 1:08:52 PM

1) What version of the bible was this taken from. There are well over 5,000 version in print.

2) What translation was this? How accurate was it? How many times has the original been translated to get to this version?

3) Lets not forget how many people "interpret" the bible differently and you should never take it verbatim! (*laughs*).

Rule #1: Never base an arguement off of a book written 2000 years ago and translated very poorly.

Rule #2: Should you want to undertake such a thing use the original book translated as close to english as possible. Not one hundreds down the line.

Rule #3: Most christians believe the bible is a guide not rules to live by.

3/7/2006 1:12:43 PM

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"1) What version of the bible was this taken from. There are well over 5,000 version in print."

I have quoted from the King James Version. And I have acknowledged that the KJV translation is inaccurate or insufficient in some cases. That is why I have referenced the original Greek and Hebrew words, using a Concordance and Lexicon. Here's what I've used:

Strong's Concordance: http://www.tgm.org/bible.htm
Hebrew and Greek Lexicon: http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html

So, as you can see, I have done my best to provide the most accurate translation of the original scripture as I can.

3/7/2006 1:18:11 PM

going back into the archives:

salisburyboy:

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"The land that is now referred to as "Palestine" is a portion of the land that God promised to the descendents of Jacob (the Israelites). This land belongs to the Israelites alone. The Arabs have attempted to re-write history in the attempt to take land away from the Israelis. They claim that this land belongs to the "Palestinians." The truth of the matter is that there never has been a nation of "Palestine." Jerusalem was never the capital of any Arab state or province. Only the Jews have ever made the land called "Palestine" west of the Jordan River a sovereign nation-state with Jerusalem as its capital. The Arabs would have us believe that the Jews displaced a nation of Arabs living in Palestine when the Jews began to re-settle Israel in the 20th century. This is not true. "Palestine" was largely barren and unpopulated until the Jews began to settle the land in the 20th century. After Jewish development, which resulted in economic opportunity, huge numbers of Arab immigrants have flooded into Israel. The land that is now Israel is 1% the size of the rest of the lands that Arabs control. Yet, the Arabs cannot abide with this. They are continually calling on Israel to surrender more of its land. The real reason muslims want to take the land from the Jews is not because the land is the Arab's land: it is because muslims are committed to the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people. Muslims believe their religion teaches them to wage war against the Jews and that killing Jews is a religious obligation. "

3/7/2006 1:37:28 PM

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"Deuteronomy 23:2: "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord, even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.""

So generation actually means generation this time?

Convenient.

3/7/2006 1:41:06 PM

^^

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"I wasn't trying to hide that. I admit that I used to believe that the Jews were, indeed, descendants of the Israelites. I've changed my mind about a lot of things over the past 2-3 years. I used to believe the government's story on 9/11. I used to support the Republicans. And on and on. I don't try to keep those things secret. If anyone is serious in their search for truth, they must be willing to change their mind (and admit they were wrong). It is virtually inevitable that you will have to change your mind because no one is right about everything. Most people are wrong about many, many things. And that is completely understandable given that most people are bombarded with lies by the "mainstream" media, churches, academia, etc. You should be suspicious of those who never change their mind and will never admit they are wrong. These kind of people apparantly already believe they are right about everything. They are very resistant to changing their mind or admitting they were wrong. The truth or facts do not matter to these people. Only perpetuating their belief that they are correct matters. And thank you for bringing this up, erudite (even though you did it, apparantly, to try to criticize me). It's an important point."

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"So generation actually means generation this time? Convenient."

Why don't you use Stong's Concordance to find out what it means?

From here:http://www.tgm.org/bible.htm,
the word "generation" in Deuteronomy 23:2 is Strong's Hebrew Word #01755


And from here: http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html,
Strong's Hebrew #01755 is the word "dowr", meaning "a revolution of time, i.e. an age or generation"



[Edited on March 7, 2006 at 1:58 PM. Reason : `]

3/7/2006 1:48:43 PM

^ I think that passage is why Amish shun those who leave the faith for about 10 years

3/7/2006 2:44:00 PM

Good, concise article on the subject of racial segregation and purity:

Yahweh Commands Racial Segregation
http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Yahweh_Commands_Racial_Segregation.htm

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"The reason for the warning is clear, MONGRALIZATION IS THE WORST FORM OF GENOCIDE. If you kill 99% of a race, but leave the other 1% pure blooded, they will in time restore the race. But, when you mongrelize them, you have destroyed that race eternally. Once mixed with the black or yellow races, the white race would be totally and forever destroyed (and so would that other race), hence Yahweh has forbidden it. The following verses illustrate this point. Psalm 144:11-12: “Rid me and deliver me from the hand of strange (nekar) children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood: That OUR SONS may be as plants grown up in their youth, that OUR DAUGHTERS may be as the polished cornices of a palace.” Jeremiah 2:21, 25: “Yet I planted thee a noble vine, WHOLLY A RIGHT SEED. HOW THEN, ART THOU TURNED INTO THE DEGENERATE PLAT OF A STRANGE (zuwr) VINE UNTO ME? Withhold thy foot from being unshod, and thy throat thirst: but thou saidest There IS NO HOPE: NO, FOR I HAVE LOVED STRANGERS (zuwr) AND AFTER THEM WILL I GO.”"

3/7/2006 4:41:59 PM

says the man who believes the norse are the true isrealites

3/7/2006 4:49:28 PM

Good, concise article on the subject of racial segregation and purity:

Yahweh Commands Racial Segregation
http://www.blacksonblondes.com/reference/WillieMartin/Yahweh_Commands_Racial_Segregation.htm

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"The reason for the warning is clear, MONGRALIZATION IS THE BEST FORM OF SEX. If you kill 99% of a race, but leave the other 1% pure blooded, they will in time win the race, because they haven't been killed. But, when you mongrelize them, you have destroyed that race eternally and is it ever hotness. Once mixed with the black or yellow races (yes, it is sideways), the white race would be totally and forever sexy (and so would that other race), hence Yahweh has forbidden it. The following verses illustrate this point. Psalm 69:1-2: “Rid me and deliver me from the hand of strange (nekar) children, whose mouth speaketh vanity on my cock, and their right hand is a right hand on my wood: That OUR SONS may have large penises grown up in their youth, that OUR DAUGHTERS may polish black knobs until they are like the cornices of a palace.” Jeremiah 2:21, 25: “Yet I planted in thee my noble vine, WHOLLY A RIGHT SEED. HOW THEN, ART THOU TURNED INTO THE DEGENERATE PLAT OF A STRANGE (zuwr) VINE UNTO ME? That's what she said. Withhold thy foot from being unshod, and thy throat thirst, I got something for your throat: but thou saidest There IS NO HOPE: NO, FOR I HAVE LOVED STRANGERS (zuwr) AND AFTER THEM WILL I GO.”"

[Edited on March 7, 2006 at 5:07 PM. Reason : [click on the link]

3/7/2006 4:51:48 PM

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"says the man who believes the norse are the true isrealites"

Says the man who believes the so-called "Jews" are the true Israelites?

3/7/2006 4:53:45 PM

makes more sense to me

AND THE REST OF THE WORLD

3/7/2006 4:55:49 PM

was Noah white?

3/7/2006 4:57:28 PM

noah was a nigger.

that's right i said it.

3/7/2006 7:40:18 PM

AND THEN THEY ALL FORGOT EVERY BIT OF THEIR RELIGION AND STARTED WORSHIPPING LOKI AND ODIN, IT ALL MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!

3/7/2006 9:13:38 PM

the isrealites were screwed until Moses found Mjolnir

3/7/2006 10:46:04 PM