BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
I love speaking Spanish and I will prolly minor in it, but when I went to Miami for spring break none of the cubans or argentenians down there could understand me. They wondered if I was mexican or something, it was kind of funny.
But, I practice Spanish a bunch, do I need to study abroad to become fluent?
[Edited on March 11, 2006 at 8:14 PM. Reason : blocks] 3/11/2006 8:12:32 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
maybe you should major in it 3/11/2006 8:16:15 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
There are more people in Mexico anyway. 3/11/2006 8:17:45 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^?
Are you saying that I need to move to mexico? 3/11/2006 8:18:40 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Nah, just saying that sounding Mexican might not be so bad.
Can Mexicans understand you? 3/11/2006 8:21:18 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
I can talk with random construction workers.
But it would be stereotypical to say that all hispanic construction workers were hispanic. 3/11/2006 8:23:44 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it would be stereotypical to say that all hispanic construction workers were hispanic" |
3/11/2006 8:39:25 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^lol 3/11/2006 8:41:52 PM |
FeverRed All American 8499 Posts user info edit post |
Do you have any idea what a dialect is?
And to become fluent it would definitely help to live in the country of your target language.
[Edited on March 11, 2006 at 8:56 PM. Reason : .] 3/11/2006 8:55:27 PM |
angylii85 All American 1958 Posts user info edit post |
did u ever think maybe they just didnt want to speak spanish to you? i dont know if they were nice or not but some ppl just pick on those that are trying to speak spanish... 3/11/2006 9:03:41 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Surprisingly, a lot of Cubans here do not speak spanish all that great, sort of a "spanglish" sort thing. They speak it with their grandparents down here and stuff. Also, a lot of the Cubans refuse to speak spanish. Some of those folks get annoyed when whiteboys try to speak spanish to them, too. 3/11/2006 9:25:01 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^This is definately true. A lot of latins do get insulted when north americans start speeking spanish with them. But, I don't think that was the problem, i was being very polite and asked them if it would be alright to use spanish.
They just did not understand me. I wonder if I can do that shit in the states rather than going abroad. It is best to stay here for my degree.
[Edited on March 11, 2006 at 9:30 PM. Reason : b] 3/11/2006 9:29:31 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Obviously you can, since there are hispanohablantes all over the place in the USA. But it might be more uncomfortable than going abroad. 3/11/2006 9:38:29 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah, I agree 3/11/2006 9:42:33 PM |
Byrn Stuff backpacker 19058 Posts user info edit post |
Depending on where you've learned, you tend to pick up the accent at the traits of the person or group of people who taught you. My dad is one of few people that I know that uses the vos pronoun. Estoy bien. Y vos? Spanish can be understood by many, but still the expressions and pronunciations differ. 3/11/2006 10:17:31 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
^ Your dad learned Castilian then.
Nobody outside of Spain uses vos.
Nobody.
I don't know why anyone would have a problem understanding BanjoMan's spanish, though, unless 1. he was really bad at it to begin with, 2. he just doesn't speak clearly, or 3. they weren't fluent in spanish and were speaking spanglish like someone else said
the accents and dialects from country to country don't vary that much with spanish
someone from Mexico can speak with someone from Colombia with ease, and someone from Puerto Rico can speak with someone from Argentina the same way
[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 1:25 AM. Reason : oh and just an fyi, most latinos I know hate being called "hispanic"] 3/12/2006 1:24:30 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
what about argentina 3/12/2006 1:41:11 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
that shit about a mexican being able to speak with a columbian is bull.
One of my good friends is from ecuador. She basically said speaking with a mexican is like trying to talk to someone from the appalachians. Their slang is SO bad, it's almost impossible to carry on a meaningful conversation. I don't know what other regions/dialects are like this, but apparently spanish has a much much more diverse set of dialects than English does. 3/12/2006 2:14:50 AM |
Spike All American 2249 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that shit about a mexican being able to speak with a columbian is bull." |
Mexicans do use a lot of slang and they use different words than other cultures. It's like somebody from up north trying to talk to a Southerner with a really bad accent. Plus, the spanish is different in some areas here than others. In Florida alot of it is more upscale and higher class than areas like here.3/12/2006 2:33:03 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
It's not that bad guys.
Slang doesn't dominate the language as badly as you seem to think it does, and it def. wouldn't be the reason a non-native speaker like BanjoMan couldn't be understood, because there's no way he would've been taught slang first. 3/12/2006 11:15:11 AM |
AVON All American 4770 Posts user info edit post |
I have honestly had to translate Mexican to Spanish before for my fianceé (from Spain) when talking to a Mexican. 3/12/2006 11:31:01 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I play soccer with a bunch of latinos all the time and the people from different countries have absolutely no problem understanding the mexicans and vice versa
neither do I, in reality 3/12/2006 11:44:47 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I guess it just takes a buuuunch of practice 3/12/2006 2:06:46 PM |
JennMc All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
FLS 309- It will help you with the accents. 3/12/2006 2:46:16 PM |