anyone else?

3/12/2006 1:00:26 PM

Quote :

"Case. Sloan. Valvano. Sendek. It doesn't even sound right."

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3/12/2006 1:01:44 PM

Go Herb.

3/12/2006 1:04:16 PM

clearly, [no]

3/12/2006 1:23:47 PM

I don't support our offense

3/12/2006 1:24:15 PM

i support gavin grant

3/12/2006 1:25:37 PM

Go away Herb

3/12/2006 1:26:34 PM

please resign, Im tired of mediocrity

3/12/2006 1:34:42 PM

I support him as long as he is the coach at this school

3/12/2006 2:39:32 PM

im against insulting him at games and stuff, but i really hope we are searching for a replacement

3/12/2006 2:41:15 PM

Go Herb, support this man 100%

but for arguments sake

i would love for him to go to another school and win a national championship

even sweeter if he went to like Duke or UNC and was an assistant coach and won

so the haters could eat fucking crow

3/12/2006 2:57:21 PM

i wouldn't mind them having to eat some crow while he was here

3/12/2006 2:58:26 PM

I too want him to go to another school and win a championship because I believe he can.

He's an excellent coach with a sound understanding of the game.

He can't win one here because as always, State gets in the way of State. Nobody can be good at this school.

3/12/2006 3:04:33 PM

^^ hahah yea that too

3/12/2006 3:15:41 PM

i do too

in fact, i sent him this email today. not expecting a response, or even for it to get read, but i sent it anyway.

Quote :

"Coach Sendek, I am a current student at NC State, and I just wanted you to know that I appreciate what you've done for our basketball program over the years. This will be the 5th straight year we play in the NCAA tournament, and I don't think enough people realize what an accomplishment that is when you consider where this program was before you got here. I can't even begin to list the countless other great things you've accomplished in your tenure here. Please don't be discouraged by ignorant fans. I see continued improvement in the team each year, and the recruiting keeps getting better. No matter how this season ends up, I want you to know you still have my strong support, and there are plenty of others out there that agree with me. Good luck to you and your team in the upcoming NCAA tournament. Thank you, ________"

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3/12/2006 3:20:24 PM

Go Herb, support this man 100%

3/12/2006 3:23:59 PM

i do

3/12/2006 3:26:08 PM

Go Herb

3/12/2006 3:26:16 PM

I've tried to defend him on this board...yeah

3/12/2006 3:27:32 PM

^^^^^ I sent him something like that last year, and he sent me a card back with in the week. Hand written and everything. I was impressed.

[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 3:27 PM. Reason : ^]

3/12/2006 3:27:34 PM

haha well i didn't leave my address, but that's pretty cool.

i think more people should send him supportive emails. sometimes the "fire herb" crowd seems larger than it really is just because they're more vocal about it.

3/12/2006 3:29:20 PM

I wonder how many of you people are going to support him when we lose in the first round of the tournament.

and mark my words, chances are that we will.

3/12/2006 3:30:22 PM

I sent mine to Fowler, telling him that I would appreciate it if he passed it on to Herb because I didn't have Herb's email. I basically thanked him and apologized for all the assholes.

3/12/2006 3:30:26 PM

^^

Quote :

"No matter how this season ends up, I want you to know you still have my strong support, and there are plenty of others out there that agree with me."

3/12/2006 3:32:53 PM

^^^ Consider them marked.



[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 3:34 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2006 3:32:57 PM

i sit firmly on the fence, but i would NEVER pull against the wolfpack and gloat when we lose like some other people.

i really really want herb to succeed but i just dont think it will happen at state

but i hope it does

3/12/2006 3:33:03 PM

he already has succeeded. there is not a single coach that would come to state and win the ncaa title right away like you people want. our program isn't at that level anymore. sendek is in the process of returning it to that level, but many of you don't want to give him the chance.

3/12/2006 3:34:40 PM

Sendek's not returning us anywhere running his patented "Lets heave up 3 pointers" offense.


As long as he runs that shit... we're gonna recruit slow unathletic players, get outrebounded, play soft, and be streaky as hell.


If he doesn't switch offenses, I hope he leaves. The offense is our achilles heel.

Do I think he could be a good coach if he switched into an uptempo, point guard driven offense like he learned from Pitino? No idea. All I do know is that we're going nowhere with the current one

[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 3:38 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2006 3:37:45 PM

depends on your definition of success, and 10 years is not right away

3/12/2006 3:40:19 PM

actually we're going to the ncaa tournament

for the 5th straight year

^and i didn't say herb did it right away. i'm saying that you want it right away and nobody that would come here could provide trhat.

[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2006 3:40:25 PM

yup, only happened one other time in the history of our program

you didnt know me 10 years ago, how could you make a ludicrous statement like that

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3/12/2006 3:42:49 PM

.... which is completely misleading becuase 64 teams haven't always gotten in

3/12/2006 3:43:43 PM

I support him as well.

3/12/2006 3:44:44 PM

^^very true, but im not tryin to turn this thread into another arguement, mostly because im just playing devils advocate at the moment

3/12/2006 3:45:31 PM

^^^it isn't misleading when you look at the time immediately before sendek arrived and compare it with right now.

we weren't good enough to make the field of 64 before he got here.

^take your devil's advocate bullshit to another thread then.

[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 3:47 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2006 3:46:18 PM

I support him too, Mr Grace!

3/12/2006 3:47:26 PM

You simply cannot equate NC State's expectations on the Les Robinson years.

Herb has leeway considering where he started, but a sweet 16 and 5 NCAA appearances (All as bubble teams.... yes, we have become a bubble team this year) isn't exceptional in a decade.


With his recruiting prowess we should have been better a long time ago.... and still be climbing. The same mistakes plague us every year



[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 3:50 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2006 3:48:45 PM

i just enjoy pointing out logical infallacies

3/12/2006 3:49:47 PM

a bubble team implies that people think we aren't going to make it in. we are not in that situation this year.

3/12/2006 3:49:48 PM

we're close. We're certainly not as impressive as we were midseason

3/12/2006 3:50:46 PM

it would be different if you took his 5 ncaa appearances and staggered them every other year within his 10 year tenure. that would show that it was inconsistant, and it would not be encouraging at all.

instead, he has gradually built up the program year by year. first he made the NIT, and then he continued to progress and got the team to the NCAA's. He changed the offense to get us to the level we're at now. What reason do you have to believe that he wouldn't change it again to reach another level.

Plus, we get great recruits that WANT to play our offense.


^yeah but we still aren't a bubble team. people are discussing whether we will be a 7, 8, or 9-seed. not "gee i don't know if they'll be in this year"

get a fucking clue

[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2006 3:51:43 PM

i've heard no one refer to our team as a "bubble team" all season. not even recently. sure we're not playing like a contender the past few weeks, but we're definitely going to the dance based on our earlier performance.

3/12/2006 3:51:51 PM

yeah, we are definitely not a bubble team this year.

i'll give you the other 4 though

3/12/2006 3:53:11 PM

I'll give you 3 out of 5

3/12/2006 3:53:35 PM

i've stated that if last years team played their way in based on one win against a chris paul-less wake forest then this team has played their way out with this late season collapse

but we are not a bubble team, it will be a sad day in basketball win a 10 win team in the acc is a bubble team

3/12/2006 3:53:49 PM

^you're an idiot.

yeah we played our way in last year from the position we were in at the time. that position was "on the bubble"

if you're "on the bubble" then yes you can play your way in and you can play your way out. we were not on the bubble at any point this year, so this is not true for us.

3/12/2006 3:56:43 PM

actaully if you think this team is playing like a tournament team right NOW, then you would be the idiot

3/12/2006 3:57:58 PM

Okay, "bubble team" may have been pushing it. Put it this way, we were lucky we collapsed so late. A game or two earlier, we might not have made the tournament.

Quote :

"instead, he has gradually built up the program year by year. first he made the NIT, and then he continued to progress and got the team to the NCAA's. He changed the offense to get us to the level we're at now. What reason do you have to believe that he wouldn't change it again to reach another level. "

I won't argue Herb hasn't rebuilt our program.

I said I'd get off of Herb's ass if he'd get out of this bullshit offense. I said that 4 years ago as well. We've always recruited well, we've got the players to get out of it, yet we don't. Herb is under such fire now there is no way he will attempt to instill a new offense....he's under too much pressure to succeed

I told Luigi, he should have done it 4 years ago when the Hodge class came in.

Herb fell in love with this offense and I don't see him switching. This offense relies on the assumption you can be nearly perfect offensively and shoot 50% from the 3. It's supposedly the "NC State offense" but all I can see is a hybrid between the Princeton offense and the Harlem-Globetrotters weave.

Until Herb can figure out an offense to allow this team to get rebounds, become more flexible, motivate players, and quit being soft, I will never support him.

He's not done a terrible job here, he's done well... and I don't think we'd be justified in pushing him out the door. However, as long as this offense is here, I will not support Herb and will fantasize about who we could find as a replacement

That said, he's gonna be here for awhile unless he chooses to leave....and for the record, I don't think he'll lead us anywhere of prominence. I've said it before. Herb Sendek is Dave Odom without glasses. Good recruiter, good program builder, but mediocre coach. We all know what happened to Odom

[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 4:00 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2006 3:58:07 PM

the year hodge came in was the first year he switched to this "bullshit offense" so what are you talking about

3/12/2006 4:00:24 PM

maybe ev's departure and the rise of fells/simmons/grant will push us in the right direction. we can hope.

3/12/2006 4:01:04 PM