so was that the series ender last night? it was refreshing to see an anime series where the main character actually dies at the end.

btw bebop sux

3/12/2006 5:38:12 PM

I think that was episode 50...and I think there are 52. I'm not positive though.

But yeah if he's dead, that's pretty cool.

3/12/2006 6:12:02 PM

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"it was refreshing to see an anime series where the main character actually dies at the end."

Umm, that's exactly what happens at the end of Bebop.

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"btw bebop sux"

To each his own, but can you at least give a reason?

3/12/2006 6:18:38 PM

^I Think he was trolling with that comment.

3/12/2006 6:22:00 PM

Ah.

My troll detector works about as well as my sarcasm detector, which is to say that it doesn't work at all.

3/12/2006 6:24:00 PM

OK yeah spike dies at the end of bebop, hence the reason I made the comment, but we knew that was coming. I mean for ed to get brutally slain like that at the end of FMA was very unexpected and therefore refreshing.

Bebop is ok. That is all. It was a lot more special before it was rehashed into bebop champloo. Personally Bebop was too emotional for me to love it.

3/12/2006 6:27:06 PM

oic kk

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"rehashed into bebop champloo"

lol, while I personally liked Champloo I think I can agree with your critique. Is it really so unexpected, though, since Bebop and Champloo were made by the same people?

3/12/2006 6:31:28 PM

well i liked both from a musical standpoint, but honestly without that aspect i think champloo would have been a failure. i mean they totally jumped the shark with a rapping samarai and baseball in fuedal japan.

i feel like bebop without the music would have been just another anime.

3/12/2006 6:36:24 PM

Wait, which main character dies at the end of the FMA TV series?

I haven't seen it in a while, but I don't remember anyone dying.

3/12/2006 6:36:41 PM

Indeed, the music contributed nicely to both series.

The ep with baseball was definitely a big wtf moment, but as for the rapping samurais, think about the name of the show. "Champloo," and now that I think about it I think it's actually pronounced "Champuru," translates into "remix." So the show is "Samurai Remix" or basically, "Remixed Samurai." The whole point of all of that is that the show is a mixture of things from the Edo period and modern Japan. In fact, every episode is suppose to contain several anachronisms (things that don't belong in the general time period of the story) that are from the modern era, rap and baseball being the most obvious among them. In fact, there's a website at this link:

http://www.spookhouse.net/angelynx/comics/anachronisms.html

that has a fairly detailed listing of all the anachronisms found so far.

But my point is, Edo-period rappers seem stupid to you and me, but the whole point of the show is that it's remixing the past with the trendy hip-hop of the now. Hence "Samurai Champloo."

3/12/2006 6:43:30 PM

i dont know if he stays dead, but edward got snuffed by... envy? (homenheim's first son) in the episode last night. i mean he got his shit pushed in bigtime.

3/12/2006 6:44:00 PM

umbrellaman i realize there is more to it than meets the eye, this is usually the case in anime. im thankful for that, but the way champloo presented their edo remix wasnt special to me. i respect the arachniphobia (whatever im just gonna spell the words i know lol) but ill take a plot i can get into with my anime please. a quest for a guy who smells like like sunflowers?? wtf man, to make it worse they didnt explain it until the end. or maybe i missed some episodes after i lost interest.

3/12/2006 6:50:30 PM

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"i dont know if he stays dead, but edward got snuffed by... envy? (homenheim's first son) in the episode last night. i mean he got his shit pushed in bigtime."

Ok, the episode you saw wasn't the last episode then.

Also keep in mind that there's a movie that follows the series.

3/12/2006 6:54:32 PM

^^I'm not arguing with you, man, I love a good plot too. They certainly did take their sweet time explaining the significance of the Sunflower Samurai, you don't even really learn WHY they're looking for the dude until the tenth episode or so (I don't remember exactly, but it's at least halfway into the series). But I, personally, didn't get real bored with the series (but, like I said, the baseball one was a real big wtf, as was the episode before it, something about them eating 'shrooms and ending up in an excavation pit with zombies or something. Those two episodes were a little too slow and too dumb for my taste), and the discovery of the remixing stuff really helped to put the series into perspective for me.

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"i respect the arachniphobia"

I'm afraid of spiders? What?

[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 6:57 PM. Reason : punctuation ninja attack!]

3/12/2006 6:56:18 PM

i totally forgot about the shrooms and the zombies yeah that was a weird one

how about the one where they burned the weed crop and all got high as hell and had an orgy or whatever

its so off the wall im not actually even sure if that was what happened. oh well.

3/12/2006 6:59:56 PM

Yeah that weed one was definitely wierd.

My favorite ep by far was the fifteenth ep. I can't remember the episode title, but the trio find a bag of gold coins in a river, and the coins turn out to be counterfeit money. That episode was a nice blend of action and comedy imo, and I definitely liked Yatzuha.

Plus, at the beginning of the ep, there's this scene where this guy is running away from a bunch of ninjas. He stops to take a breather, and all of a sudden six or seven shurikens fly at him and hit the tree next to him, narrowly missing his head. I just thought that was so fucking cool for some reason.

[Edited on March 12, 2006 at 7:05 PM. Reason : blah]

3/12/2006 7:04:57 PM

SPOILERS



















Ed isn't dead, he's just crossed the gate into our world. The movie was alright, kinda blah. and the whole hitler/nazi theme it has is just kinda ridiculous. the movie combines the two worlds and we once again see Ed get back into the FMA world. However, in the end he comes back to our world along with Al to make sure that the gate between the worlds is finally closed.

3/12/2006 7:33:40 PM

Just let him watch the last episode, man.

There's no need to post that.

3/12/2006 7:59:54 PM

thats why it says SPOILERS

3/12/2006 8:04:16 PM

wait, does the big metal brothe rdie, or the little one with a spear for a hand die?

3/13/2006 12:04:13 AM