Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
you aint shit
signed,
herb sendek 3-19-06 3/17/2006 10:05:22 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
here's to faith 3/17/2006 10:06:25 AM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
this thread will be pretty much useless if we lose tonight.... 3/17/2006 10:07:02 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
herb is gonna beat the dogshit out of barnes, then beat iowa, then duke, then memphis, then unc in the championship, then peace the fuck out
cause ncsu fans suck at life 3/17/2006 10:08:06 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
you mean
cal, texas, wvu, duke, pitt, arizona 3/17/2006 10:10:17 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "herb is gonna beat the dogshit out of barnes, then beat iowa, then duke, then memphis, then unc in the championship, then peace the fuck out" |
That would be the greatest... especially if he went all Half-Baked at the press conference: "Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, and fuck you, I'm out!"3/17/2006 10:11:23 AM |
BearWhoDrive All American 5385 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this thread will beis pretty much useless if we lose tonight...." |
3/17/2006 10:15:16 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
woa you got arizona in F4? 3/17/2006 10:16:33 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
really i have us playing lsu, gonzaga, uconn
but the order i made here is more fun
[Edited on March 17, 2006 at 10:20 AM. Reason : s] 3/17/2006 10:20:22 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
yeah arizona is fucking due. i mean its my bracket so watch em lose in the first round, but i think they can do it 3/17/2006 10:21:41 AM |
J8ke Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
3/17/2006 10:24:18 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I fully expect Herb to dismantle Barnes on National TV. 3/17/2006 10:26:12 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
Sendek owns Calhoun 3/17/2006 10:47:25 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
Im digging trying to find his lifetime record vs Calhoun... but i cant..
1-1? 3/17/2006 10:55:42 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
2-0
bullshit foul on hodge 3/17/2006 10:57:14 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
i know what happened last time we played and Sendek owned his ass 3/17/2006 10:57:26 AM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
the term "owned" might be stretching it a little.. and i support herb. 3/17/2006 11:02:30 AM |
jmtaylor New Recruit 49 Posts user info edit post |
^^ha, more like Hodge owned him thanks to not calling the timeout so Herb could draw up his same stupid play.
[Edited on March 17, 2006 at 11:04 AM. Reason : a] 3/17/2006 11:03:28 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
So using the transitive property I came to this conclusion.
Herb own Calhoun.
Calhoun owns K.
So therefore Herb owns K. 3/17/2006 11:03:59 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
sendek is undefeated against calhoun in the last 3 years...thats pwnage
unless its sendek in which case he doesnt pwn anybody 3/17/2006 11:04:03 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
yeah lets ignore what kept us in the game, and leading for the majority of the second half
all hodge ignoring the coach 3/17/2006 11:04:19 AM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
so in essence, Hodge owned Herb
haha, that sounds funny 3/17/2006 11:04:25 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
in essence, Herb ownS Calhoun 3/17/2006 11:04:46 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
In essence
The Technician is a shit rag. 3/17/2006 11:05:35 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
how many times has herb called time out to set up a play and it actually was effective, im not talking make or miss, i mean a good play that got the team a good look... the BC game was a good example 3/17/2006 11:06:53 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
definately an area herb needs work in 3/17/2006 11:07:57 AM |
jmtaylor New Recruit 49 Posts user info edit post |
Oh come on man, don't you remember the beautifully designed play with Bennerman's shot off of the side of the backboard. Now that's what I call genius [/sarcasm] 3/17/2006 11:09:06 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Yea
I personally heard Herb tell Bennermen to bank it. 3/17/2006 11:09:40 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
of course shit happens like last year i think in the unc duke game where jj said he knew exactly what mccants was going to do because he did the same thing in the game winner against uconn... so in that case it was a good play it just got blown up 3/17/2006 11:10:11 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
i like how herb uses early game timeouts to get 20 point leads on george washington and boston college so we dont need buzzer shots
oh wait, did i just give props to herb? TWW DOESNT TAKE TOO KINDLY TO THAT SHIT 3/17/2006 11:10:42 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
that comment needs its own thread
Make it NOW! 3/17/2006 11:12:36 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
see, arizona is lookin tough 3/17/2006 12:50:10 PM |
andre43 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
hodge didn't let herb call a time out in the last 10 seconds when we beat uconn, he just took it to the basket himself. doesn't this seem like a good coaching decision on herbs part? I think that coaches have the ability to call a time out from the bench if they want to. But he was smart enough to realize that we don't need a time out when the game is on the line and our best player had the ball. how is that not a good coaching decision in a pressure situation? 3/17/2006 1:03:09 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
^learn to accept the fact that these idiots will give herb no credit whatsoever. it's this simple:
something good happens: credit the players, throw in some BS about it being in spite of horrible coaching
something bad happens: THAT IS THE COACHES FAULT, FIRE HERB!!!!1 OMFG!!!!111 FIRE FOWLER AND HERB!!!! WE ARE MEDIOCRE 3/17/2006 1:05:27 PM |
andre43 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
i just remember when our players missed those last second shots (and herb wasn't in so much hot water) it was our bad fans bashing them, not herb 3/17/2006 1:09:35 PM |
andre43 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
but we have a game to play today, i hope and doubt our players/coaches are worried about anything but Cal, we should be fine. They said grant might be guarding their center so simmons can guard powe 3/17/2006 1:10:55 PM |
andre43 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
arent worried about anything but cal i mean 3/17/2006 1:11:25 PM |
J8ke Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
3/17/2006 1:15:36 PM |
J8ke Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^learn to accept the fact that these ass kissing idiots will never criticize herb whatsoever. it's this simple:
something bad happens: blame the players, throw in some BS about it being in spite of great coaching, or maybe blame it on an injury
something good happens: YOU CAN ONLY GIVE CREDIT TO HERB, GIVE HERB AN EXTENSION!!!!1 OMFG!!!!111 OUR FANS ARE EVIL!!!! WE ARE AN ELITE TEAM 3/17/2006 1:19:06 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
except your pea-brained 'point' completely falls on its face because the vast majority of herb supporters here know he isnt perfect and know that there are issues he needs to address.
we just arent stupid enough to ignore all the good he has done, and continues to do for the program, where as you are. 3/17/2006 1:35:54 PM |
J8ke Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
^has herb even gotten to cut down the nets?
do they do that after a BCA Classic? 3/17/2006 1:41:06 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
please keep going
youre showing how fucking stupid you are 3/17/2006 1:42:29 PM |
J8ke Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
You are showing how fucking stupid you are by supporting a coach who hasn't done a fucking thing 3/17/2006 1:43:05 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
that's the problem, you don't know just how much he's done, and that's exactly why you're a dumbass 3/17/2006 1:46:54 PM |
andre43 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
a big 12 team hasnt won the ncaa tournament since kansas in 88, that conference ins't nearly at the same level as the acc, so how is it such an accomplishment that barnes has won their conference tournament, we would have won thier tourney a few time too since 98 3/17/2006 1:48:34 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "except your pea-brained 'point' completely falls on its face because the vast majority of herb supporters here know he isnt perfect and know that there are issues he needs to address.
we just arent stupid enough to ignore all the good he has done, and continues to do for the program, where as you are." |
Holy shit! I've been waiting for a Herb Supporter to admit that for years now.
That's all I'm asking. I don't want Herb gone, I don't mean to be harsh on him... but dammit we've gotta figure out how to score 2 pointers and rebound.
We agree on something. I'm not crazy afterall... Herb supporters at least acknowledge that we've got a few weaknesses some teams can exploit (And the same weaknesses for years now, which is obviously caused by the offensive scheme we run...or is my take on it, anyways).
[Edited on March 17, 2006 at 1:54 PM. Reason : ]3/17/2006 1:53:59 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
^Well holy crap, I agree with that.
I think Herb's the right coach. I also realize that no one's perfect. 3/17/2006 1:55:04 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
^plenty of us have said the same thing in almost every one of these threads. i know i sure have. yeah there's things herb could improve on, but we shouldn't fire him over them. 3/17/2006 1:55:46 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
yeah
the rebounding margins I can excuse simply because of our style of play
the end of game situations have me baffled as does herbs reluctance to be more aggressive after he has built up a lead. 3/17/2006 1:59:21 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I have said numerous times that it's not Herb holding us back as much as it is the offense.
Problem is, Herb continues to use this offense. I said I'd get off of Herb's back if he'd switch back into the offenses he learned under Pitino (now that he has the athletes). Pitino used a lot of 3's when he coached at Providence, but as soon as he got to a major conference he started playing a more athletic offense led by great PG's and big men...and really began an inside-out gameplan
I just will not support him as long as we run this offense. Not becuase it's not flashy or uptempo, becuase there's quite a few achilles' heels it causes (one dimensional, killed on rebounding, lack of athleticism.... or at least doesn't let you use your athleticism as much as possible)
I don't think that's Herb's fault, it's just how the offense is....and great teams have great inside games and control the boards.
[Edited on March 17, 2006 at 2:04 PM. Reason : ] 3/17/2006 2:00:09 PM |