i need to take one of these before i graduate yet the link to the available courses brings up a page of 6 or so courses, none of which are found in the course catalog or packtracks for me...anyone have any information on this?

3/22/2006 12:34:29 PM

I think they may have changed MDS to STS for some of those

3/22/2006 12:58:06 PM

thanks

3/22/2006 1:08:19 PM

MDS to IDS ..... IDS 201 is the Easy A+ with no work.... take that 1

3/22/2006 1:45:22 PM

you are mechanical . . . you have to take one of the following for your ethics:

STS 302
STS 304
STS 320
PHI 214
PHI 375

http://www.engr.ncsu.edu/students/hss/HSS046.pdf

if you click the link next to ethics in your degree audit, it brings up MDS instead of STS



[Edited on March 23, 2006 at 12:36 PM. Reason : ]

3/23/2006 12:32:32 PM

Is engineering ethics a new humanities requirement? I don't think I have to take it.

3/23/2006 1:39:19 PM

there is no "ethics" link in my degree audit

[Edited on March 23, 2006 at 2:26 PM. Reason : im ME]

3/23/2006 2:20:39 PM

not all engineering majors have to take ethics, it varies by department. PHI 375 w/ Bykova is easy. We had 2 tests (both open note and open book) and one paper. i've heard IDS 201 is easy or hard depending on your teacher, it can go either way

3/23/2006 2:24:13 PM

Quote :

"Is engineering ethics a new humanities requirement? I don't think I have to take it."

one of those 5 are required if you are ME or AE

Quote :

"there is no "ethics" link in my degree audit "

if you haven't taken one of those 5 courses to either fulfill your "other" requirement or your "science, tech, and society" requirement, then you should have a spot under humanities that says ethics elective. To the left of it should be a link that says "GRP 213". It gives you this if you click the link:

MDS 302
MDS 304
MDS 320
PHI 275
PHI 314

When you click on those course numbers, it says that it can't find the course. That is because they are the wrong courses. The MDS's are now STS's, and the PHI's have the numbers wrong.





In general, engineering students have to fulfill the requirements on this page:
http://www.engr.ncsu.edu/students/hss/HSS046.pdf

There are 7 humanities:
Literature
History, Philosophy, Religion
Visual & Performing Arts, or History
Social Sciences
Introductory Econ
Science, Technology, & Society
Other Humanities

If one of none of the humanities you take are considered "non english speaking culture", then you have to take an 8th one that is.

3/23/2006 3:44:24 PM

"PHI 214
PHI 375"

214 is business ethics. you read lots of specific cases and dicuss them, and look at different philosophers moral principles and apply them to the situations.

375 is a more general ethics. its looking at ethics cold turkey, no specific type of cases to apply them to.

214 can feel a little more dumbed down, but its an interesting class. this doesn't get real deep though. 375 gets more into the meat of the philosophy.

Especially with 214, but also to a lesser degree with 375 you wont learn the philosophers actual positions. With 214 you will take principle and apply them. If you tried to say something you learned about Kant in a 214 class in a class that focuses only on Kant's philosophy then you'd look like an idiot.

Its like condensing lord of the rings trilogy down into 1 sentence saying "hobbits saved middle earth." Yeah its right, but if you tried to have a discussion of the book based on that you wouldn't be able to, and you'd be leaving out important parts how at different times other races saved middle earth too and that if it had just been the hobbits alone without other races to help they wouldn't have actually been able to save middle earth. (sorry for the silly example, but this trilogy was the first popular example of a lot of writing that I could think of).

If you were only choosing between these two & if you aren’t going to do another ethics class in the future, then 214 is best. You’ll get some practice applying moral principles to specific situations/cases that might actually interest you. If you plan on taking more philosophy courses then go with 375 so you’ll get a better impression of what the different ethicists are saying.

3/23/2006 4:45:06 PM

the engineering ethics requirement depends on ur major and curriculum u came in under i believe. in ME i am under the old curriculum 998, came in august 2002, and according to Ms. Heeter and Ms. Medlin i do not need an ethics class as the requirements are slightly different bein under the old rules.

3/23/2006 6:58:33 PM

^yeah i emailed Ms. Heeter this afternoon and she told me the same thing. im on the old 998 curriculum, and the ethics course is not required for me. it is required for the 036 curriculum

3/23/2006 7:10:18 PM

they told me that STS 302 (which I took) could count for science tech, & society as well as for ethics

3/23/2006 8:15:42 PM

sts 302 is cool

3/23/2006 10:20:02 PM

Quote :

"august 2002, and according to Ms. Heeter and Ms. Medlin i do not need an ethics class as the requirements are slightly different bein under the old rules."

yup, there are still a few of you around. But most of the people that fall under 998 should graduate in May (assuming most are on the 4 yr plan). So I didn't think that someone that would be asking for that advice would fall under 998.

3/24/2006 7:27:53 AM

yea the 998 people are still around due to people doin coops and other factors. i'm on a 4.5 year program now so i'm outta here in the fall. but u never know what he is on due to when he came in; it could vary.

3/24/2006 11:14:49 AM

5 year plan baby

3/24/2006 12:28:09 PM