Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
on a pistol
yea or nay? 3/23/2006 8:16:18 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
i know a lot of people who are happy with their crimson trace grips. in a situation where you have to use a handgun its good to have all the advantages you can, but like anything else you'd have to train with it to make it worthwhile 3/23/2006 8:37:52 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
3/23/2006 9:32:10 AM |
Rudy All American 1368 Posts user info edit post |
only one i considered for my beretta is the one that replaces the spring guide. they are tight as hell but like 300 and must be installed by a professional?... 3/23/2006 11:40:52 AM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
my buddy just got the streamlight M3 tactical light for his glock... (he also got a piece that allows it on his shotgun)
they have another version, the M6 which is a light and a laser 3/23/2006 12:19:14 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
Iron sights too complicated for ya? 3/23/2006 12:20:49 PM |
Rudy All American 1368 Posts user info edit post |
i think im gonna get night sights for my M9 3/23/2006 4:20:41 PM |
cheeze All American 892 Posts user info edit post |
i thought this was about bionic eyes 3/23/2006 5:19:22 PM |
Rudy All American 1368 Posts user info edit post |
^you say that shit, but the cool fuckin thing is think about how long taht will really be??? man i cant wait, im ready to pluck one out now.... i want zoom, night vision, IR, and crazy fine ass lock on (oh wait, already got that one....) 3/23/2006 6:06:03 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
philip rivers is for them 3/23/2006 6:15:44 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Twould be nice, but if I had to choose between a laser and a flashlight I'd go with a flashlight. I'd like to think that I can hit a daylight target without the laser, but at night it would be nice to be able to light up the scene and blind someone at the same time. 3/23/2006 6:35:39 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
^Not to mention that a flashlight would enable you to see that that dark figure is your 17 year old son sneaking back into the house and not a burglar.
Night sights are fine for low light conditions but if you dont know what you just drew down on, you sure as hell shouldn't be pulling the trigger.
As far as I see it, if you're going to get a lasersight on a pistol and use that for targeting that's fine. But it's just going to put you back at square 1 when using the iron sights with another weapon. Your grip and your trigger control are going to do much more for your accuracy than a laser sight will.
I dont know what type of sight you are considering but any of them that you need to fumble with to show the laser will just be a distraction when/if you need to use your weapon in self defense. 3/24/2006 12:18:56 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
The laser identifies you as a target... it's plain as day.
The vast majority of gunfights happen with a distance of 4 ft. or less. If you can't shoot...
Get one..
I've drawn down three times... twice with a pistol once with a rifle..., and haven't had to pull the trigger.
In my opinion9 times out of 10 having the gun means not having to use it. 3/24/2006 12:33:11 AM |
Rudy All American 1368 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i agree. nothing is better than time behind the trigger... i want night sights cuz PDHS is so damn dim... and my piece has the over under style dots instead of 3, and it took me forever to get used to. i actually started focusing on the back sight instead of the front, but can drive nails with it.... but i dont want to fuck up my natural shootin habits with that backwards ass shit....
[Edited on March 24, 2006 at 12:35 AM. Reason : +1^] 3/24/2006 12:35:01 AM |
Rudy All American 1368 Posts user info edit post |
damn son!! where the fuck do you live that you need a piece that bad?? i wanna come there! 3/24/2006 12:36:12 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
if you're going to get a light go with surefire, i've had nothing but good experiences with them 3/24/2006 9:36:36 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
ive got a tactical flashlight, of course i would want to light my subject/ blind them.
i may not be the one who has to use the gun, it may be my girlfriend who has never fired a pistol before.
my main concern with the laser is having the pressure switch wrapped around the grip with a wire running to the rail.
i dont want one you have to flip on and leave on. i dont think it would be good to let an intruder know my gun is pointed the opposite direction as them.
i do like the added fear that it would provoke.
if i broke into someones house at night, and the only sound i hear is a slide being pulled back and then i see a laser beam shoot across the room, im getting the fuck out.
so does anyone have experience with the laser being mounted on the picatinny rail with the pressure switch mounted on the grip? 3/24/2006 2:19:32 PM |
Rudy All American 1368 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, ive played with that set up. I found that the extra pressure it takes to squeeze the laser on makes you shake the gun a bit though... but i agree with what you said about leaving the beam on... i think the one i was messin with was unusually hard to squeeze though.... 3/24/2006 2:26:19 PM |
CaptainBF Terminated 2633 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i may not be the one who has to use the gun, it may be my girlfriend who has never fired a pistol before." |
Do you understand how dangerous this is?3/24/2006 2:35:03 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
where is the philip rivers laser eyes gif 3/24/2006 2:48:35 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
^^she is in the process of learning about the gun, and practices with a spring loaded cartridge.
she will be proficient one day but i doubt she will be 100 comfortable. if it puts her at ease, its worth it 3/24/2006 3:19:23 PM |
colter All American 8022 Posts user info edit post |
iron sights are all you need, if you can shoot. lasermax makes the guide rod model. I've gotten positive feedback on crimson trace also. 3/25/2006 12:54:56 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
A laser sight is like a flashlight... what you see is limited, but you paint yourself as a target... (I'M HERE)
I'm 50/50 on those, but haven't had to use them... you'd be better off to properly use a handgun and a Maglight. 3/25/2006 12:58:10 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
maglite is not bright enough to blind someone
you gotta go xenon/ 3+ watt L.E.D. 3/25/2006 1:25:43 AM |
kylekatern All American 3291 Posts user info edit post |
i keep a 6 wat led light by the door and another in my work stuff, for $30 or so they are not a bad buy. 3/26/2006 2:47:05 AM |
E30turbo Suspended 1520 Posts user info edit post |
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ComputerGuy (IN)Sensitive 5052 Posts user info edit post |
No. 3/26/2006 3:43:50 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
crimson trace laser grips have the laser embedded in the grips, or in the spring guide, depending on the model. there are no wires and the light is intuatively activated when you grip the weapon 3/26/2006 9:35:24 AM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
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StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Best graphic ever. 3/26/2006 12:55:36 PM |