have gotten to the point where they're pretty damn solid mechanically. -BigBlueRam


+1 NIGGROES

3/27/2006 9:52:13 PM

holler

3/27/2006 9:54:54 PM

i knew this screen-name was a good investment!!!!!!!1

3/27/2006 9:58:26 PM

that's because they're not really american anymore.

BOO YA

nah, seriously though... cars are cars. people worry too much about that shit. pick something you like and drive the hell out of it. fix it when it breaks.

3/27/2006 10:04:33 PM

both cars I have in the driveway, 01 cobra and lincoln LSE are pretty damn american

i still hate yota, honda, and kia but everything else is cool. Just can't stand seeing slant eyes getting rich and US autoworkers get laid off.



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3/27/2006 10:08:26 PM

those damn asians

3/29/2006 10:34:38 PM

ok

3/29/2006 10:35:28 PM

its cause americans got lazy and auto unions made things cushy
the japanese took advantage and made a superior product

3/29/2006 10:37:23 PM

they build slant eye mobiles in the us now

3/29/2006 10:38:01 PM

theres no such thing as an american vehicle anymore.

domestic cars are built outside the use while imports are built (assembled, really) here...

3/29/2006 10:51:24 PM

Quote :

"Consumer Reports’ analysis of its 2001 to 2005 Annual Car Reliability Surveys for the past five years shows that overall problem rates have reached a plateau for newer cars—especially for the Asian manufacturers (those from Japan and Korea). CR’s latest subscriber survey shows that Japanese and Korean manufacturers still have the fewest problems on average: 12 problems per 100 vehicles. This number, however, has held steady for the newest models since 2002, when they improved from 15 problems per 100 in the previous year. On average, Asian vehicles are still by far the most reliable, but their rate of improvement has slowed. U.S. makes had been edging closer to the Asians in reliability, but they, too, have stalled. In the most recent survey, domestic makes had an average problem rate of 18 problems per 100 vehicles, not that different from last year’s rate of 17 per 100. The rate has been about the same since 2003. European makes, which have recently been the most unreliable overall, remained steady at 21 problems per 100 vehicles. They have had either 20 or 21 problems per 100 vehicles in each of the past four years. "

Quote :

"CR found that Toyota and Honda models have significantly fewer problems than cars from other manufacturers. Overall, eight-year-old Toyotas are about as reliable as three-year-old Fords and Chryslers and two-year-old Volkswagens. Toyotas have about half the problems of Volkswagens when new and only a quarter of the problems when five years old. On average, five-year-old Asian vehicles had 44 problems per 100 vehicles; American, 89 per 100; and European, 97 per 100. Among the U.S. automakers, Ford consistently showed lower problem rates than Chrysler and GM for older vehicles."

-consumer reports

3/29/2006 10:58:58 PM

consumer reports sucks

3/29/2006 11:01:19 PM

thats flawed though, because if i buy a $60k bmw or mercedes im taking it in to get service if it makes a squeak when the radio is on 91.5 and i am making a left turn in a area code that starts and ends in an odd number

but if im driving a ford taurus id probably just suck it up if the dashboard fell off

euro cars always do poorly on consumer reports because people that buy european cars expect a higher standard of quality

3/29/2006 11:02:18 PM

if you buy a ford, you expect it to be a pile of shit...

3/29/2006 11:06:32 PM

you also gotta factor in the broad range of european imports, a benz to a volvo or a bmw to a volkwagon is comparing apples and oranges

3/30/2006 9:38:42 PM

european cars just suck period

3/30/2006 9:44:13 PM

Unions should be a thing of the past. They were created in the days before the creation of OSHA, The Labor Board,ect,ect Now they are just sucking Americas auto companies dry.

3/30/2006 9:45:41 PM

yeah, pretty much.

3/30/2006 11:26:29 PM

atleast they are getting more reliable then not...

3/30/2006 11:33:26 PM